Could someone maybe provide some estimates (?)

[Lataif]

What specific QiGong teachers/lineages are people here most familiar with from personal experience (?)

 

Could someone maybe estimate the percentages (?)

 

For example, I'm familiar with Mantak Chia/Michael Winn . . . and with Yang Jwing Ming. 

 

Are 10% of people here familiar with Chia (?)  20% (?) What (?)

 

Or . . . what are the "top 10" most common teachings that people here follow (?)

 

Anyone in a position to guesstimate about this (?)

 

I'd be interested in maybe looking into the most common teaching . . . that I'm not already familiar with.

 

Thanks . . .

Edited May 1, 2015 by Lataif

[Apech]

Why not do a poll?

[soaring crane]

I don't think you're going get hard numbers like that.

[GreytoWhite]

No idea how to estimate percentages, I don't think anyone is familiar enough with every member's experience here to provide you that information. There are some overlapping practices between styles/arts/systems but the most common? Who knows? One thing I always check is the students of the masters, if the students are good then that's where I want to train. Of those teachers whose material I've looked over and whose students I've personally encountered I can recommend the following people.

 

Bruce Kumar Frantzis - He is extremely knowledgeable and has something to teach. The appearance of his martial performance is rather bad due to repeated spinal injuries but "the goods" are there. His water tradition meditation is an extremely effective tool for clearing qi deviations from other practices and it dovetails well with the Sedona Method (thanks peacedog!). If you can I'd recommend training with a certified instructor of his system over buying the DVDs but the videos are usually quite good (there are better offerings for Yiquan though!). Kumar's system has martial, spiritual, sexual, and healing facets.

 

He Jinbao/Andrew Nugent-Head - He Jinbao is Xie Peiqi's successor in the Men Baozhen lineage of Yin style baguazhang. The martial side of the system is extremely thorough and they structured it well for DVD presentation. The healing side is also well documented and Andrew is probably one of the best people to learn about classical Chinese medicine. Andrew's YouTube channel has a number of videos available for free.

 

Chen Yu - Arguably one of the best taiji players out there. The only thing is he often leaves out the proper hip-dantien-tailbone mechanics for some of his students so they don't "get it."

 

Chen Zhonghua - Joseph Chen is probably one of the few taiji instructors who publicizes himself that can also handle almost anything in push hands. While the appearance of his taiji is quite different from Hong Junsheng's (perhaps his training with Feng Zhiqiang influenced it) even though he is the international standard bearer. Everyone I've spoken to that has trained with him personally has been impressed with his skill. Having felt some of what his students can do I can definitely say the body mechanics used in Practical Method differ from the Chen village stuff taught publicly. It feels like you just attached to a rapidly spinning cylinder and got thrown away. He teaches a modified version of Feng's Hunyuan that is quite good for healing the body.

 

Sam Chin - I Liq Chuan is basically Hakka arts mixed with taiji but taught very systematically and martially. They call it Zen mind, taiji body. It is not only martial but meditative as well. I've never touched Sam himself but the students of his I have touched have a very good idea of their own progress and skills in this system.

 

Guang Ping Yang Taiji - This is probably my favorite non-Chen taiji I've encountered. The student's I've met of this system have also cross-trained arts like Hung Gar or Han shi Yiquan. One fellow really surprised hell outta me at work and we pushed right there. He kept saying I "got him" but I couldn't even feel it he was really capable of hiding his intent. 

 

Chris Davis - The fellow has trained Daito-ryu and big three neijia arts and is giving people the tools to develop the engine. Very good information and if you're in England go train with him!

Edited May 1, 2015 by GreytoWhite

[Brian]

I really liked Guang Ping Yang when I was practicing it (before I discovered Stillness-Movement).

[liminal_luke]

Here´s a somewhat controversial choice: Max´s Kunlun spontaneous movement practice.  An easy way in is to get Sifu Jenny Lamb´s self-healing DVD (she calls the practice Yi-gong) which also contains some very useful before and after practices.

 

Liminal

[soaring crane]

Original Soaring Crane Qigong from Zhao Jin-Xiang is a complete program that can take you as far as you want to go. Don't believe the tame descriptions of it as a health program for seniors. It was banned in China for a reason. I was practicing this passionately when I joined the Tao Bums, hence the name.

 

Fanhuangong is my current passion, as revealed to us by Prof. Cong Yong-Chun, but you probably have to live in Germany to learn it.

 

Prof. Cong also brought the very powerful Xi Xi Hu walking qigong forms to us. Quite possibly the most effective qigong of all. I think you can walk to heaven with this stuff.

 

Lam Kam Chuen is the lineage holder for original Zhan Zhuang. He has one school in the US, in San Francisco, I believe, but many authorized instructors in the UK and the European continent. It's a lot more than just standing like a post.

 

Those would be my top four.

[Aetherous]

Wild goose qigong is a thing.

[liminal_luke]

Thanks for mentioning Lam Kam Chuen, Soaring Crane.  Went to his website, and he has a new qigong workbook out specifically for anxiety.  Might be just the thing for me and my partner.

 

Liminal

[GreytoWhite]

Original Soaring Crane Qigong from Zhao Jin-Xiang is a complete program that can take you as far as you want to go. Don't believe the tame descriptions of it as a health program for seniors. It was banned in China for a reason. I was practicing this passionately when I joined the Tao Bums, hence the name.

 

I have two of these DVDs, it looks like much of it is of martial origin and quite effective. I haven't had a chance to look into them in-depth yet.

[voidisyinyang]

If you want to be familiar with a qigong master you can get phone healings from http://springforestqigong.com

 

He is also coauthor with Dr. Nisha Manek of the Mayo Clinic of a chapter on Qigong in a medical school textbook, The Textbook of Complementary and Alternative Medicine, Second Edition.

 

He did this "gold standard" medical study proving external qigong efficacy for healing chronic pain:

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20626055

 

 

 

Conclusions:

"Subjects with chronic pain who received external qigong experienced reduction in pain intensity following each qigong treatment. This is especially impressive given the long duration of pain (>5 years) in the most of the participants," writes lead author Ann Vincent, MD, MBBS, Mayo Clinic, Rochester, Minnesota.

 

 

Here's a news story overview of some of the healing he has done.