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I bet when you do a genius job on fixing something ... you followed those principles - even without knowing it .
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Asking for something in a prayer
Nungali replied to idquest's topic in Esoteric and Occult Discussion
To that end I always liked this 'invocation' ; The following invocation is conceived by John Seed in Thinking Like a Mountain: Towards a Council of All Beings. This invocation is appropriate as an opening for any nature-based practice and rituals. We ask for the presence of the spirit of Gaia and pray that the breath of life continue to caress this planet home. May we grow into true understanding ― a deep understanding that inspires us to protect the tree on which we bloom, and the water, soil and atmosphere without which we have no existence. May we turn inwards and stumble upon our true roots in the intertwining biology of this exquisite planet. May nourishment and power pulse through these roots, and fierce determination to continue the billion-year dance. May love well up and burst forth from our hearts. May there be a new dispensation of pure and powerful consciousness and the charter to witness and facilitate the healing of the tattered biosphere. We ask for the presence of the spirit of Gaia to be with us here. To reveal to us all that we need to see, for our own highest good and for the highest good of all. We call upon the spirit of evolution, the miraculous force that inspires rocks and dust to weave themselves into biology. You have stood by us for millions and billions of years — do not forsake us now. Empower us and awaken in us pure and dazzling creativity. You that can turn scales into feathers, seawater to blood, caterpillars to butterflies, metamorphose our species, awaken in us the powers that we need to survive the present crisis and evolve into more aeons of our solar journey. Awaken in us a sense of who we truly are: tiny ephemeral blossoms on the Tree of Life. Make the purposes and destiny of that tree our own purpose and destiny. Fill each of us with love for our true Self, which includes all of the creatures and plants and landscapes of the world. Fill us with a powerful urge for the wellbeing and continual unfolding of this Self. May we speak in all human councils on behalf of the animals and plants and landscapes of the Earth. May we shine with a pure inner passion that will spread rapidly through these leaden times. May we all awaken to our true and only nature — none other than the nature of Gaia, this living planet Earth. We call upon the power which sustains the planets in their orbits, that wheels our Milky Way in its 200-million-year spiral, to imbue our personalities and our relationships with harmony, endurance and joy. Fill us with a sense of immense time so that our brief, flickering lives may truly reflect the work of vast ages past and also the millions of years of evolution whose potential lies in our trembling hands. O stars, lend us your burning passion. O silence, give weight to our voice. We ask for the presence of the spirit of Gaia. -
Demonology. Why focus on the negative?
Nungali replied to Apotheose's topic in Esoteric and Occult Discussion
Ohhhh ..... you want me to substantiate my claims do you ? Okay then ; Now if you could get to the end of that , past the attempts of 'the believers' to derail it (who got banned , by the way ) , I would have gone on to this . 26 episodes there are . I have studied all of them . After you have , we can discuss it . Oh and by the way , my first 'theories' in that Judaism thread have been well backed up by Dr Finklestien now , and also, when I started that thread I had never heard of him . Now moving on to your UNSUBSTANTIATED claim about religion growing ... rather sully as now anyone can check with a quick Google and get ; " AI Overview In recent decades, religious affiliation has generally decreased in many parts of the world, with a rise in the number of people identifying as non-religious. While some religions, like Islam, have experienced growth, the overall trend shows a decline in religious affiliation and a rise in the number of religiously unaffiliated individuals. " Of course no proof or evidence or logic will sway you from this path you are on here though will it ? - Today
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Why is cultivation more beneficial than just being alive
Sanity Check replied to Ascetic's topic in Daoist Discussion
I would guess it mirrors identical reasons for the average person lacking the physical capabilities of an olympic athlete. The highest levels that can be attained require time and energy to develop. Although it should be mentioned there are many false paths of development. Even in bodybuilding there are things like steroids which can present an illusion of development on the outside. While being harmful and damaging on the inside. And so even someone like myself who is known for being reckless would exercise an extreme level of caution if ever attempting any form of cultivation or spiritualism. -
two prayers: 1. to know God 2. good will towards *all* beings something like, "may all beings be free from suffering and free from the causes of suffering. may all beings have happiness and the causes of happiness." I've always thought it was tricky (dangerous?, not quite right, at least something that I don't have much experience with) to ask for anything of this world in prayer. big disclaimer: almost no experience w/ that latter, just my orientation. kind of, "you're on your own in this worldly life, but the spiritual dimensions make it more bearable, more beautiful".
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Why is cultivation more beneficial than just being alive
Ascetic posted a topic in Daoist Discussion
I've been thinking about this a lot, it's odd to me that the body's natural behavior isn't the ideal and that we by acting ideally can somehow benefit ourselves with our own initiative. Now I also have seen the benefits of cultivation, so I'm not a skeptic. It's just odd and sincerely one of the deepest rabbit holes that have come up for me. -
Is this proper Chen style or more of a show form?
Gerard replied to markern's topic in Daoist Discussion
It's going to be difficult to impossible to learn an IMA online. There are way too many subtleties to the art that are easily missed. You won't go deep enough, I'm afraid. But by having said that, you can get by and get benefits by starting a beginner's form. Zhu Tiancai, one of the four tigers of Chen TJQ, *New Frame 13 is a good start. YT and DVD: English subs and fully explained set. https://www.ebay.com/itm/396206069330 Hope this helps. *Form breakdown: https://chen-taiji.com/13-postures/ -
Demonology. Why focus on the negative?
Sanity Check replied to Apotheose's topic in Esoteric and Occult Discussion
The only similarity I see. Greek mythology contains references to giants (titans) of past eras. While the bible contains references to giants of past ages who were wiped out during the great flood. Similar to the great flood of Noah's Ark and the flood tale of the Epic of Gilgamesh. I've seen atheists claim the story of Jesus is a copycat of the story of Mithras for the last 20 years. Making those types of unsubstantiated claims is an integral part of how atheism lost ground over the past 20 years as well. -
what the hell give me a steam turbine/generator to run or something to fix, don't know about all the other interesting stuff...;-) do know that anything under the One belongs to the One and can make a cross over to no-thing.
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That's a classic 'sanity check ' comment ! if you had not noticed , I don't just try ... I do it , all the time . That's what Neo-hermetics is ! Well not exactly , I do it a bit different ; NOT " searching for parallels in science which might apply to esotericism " but understanding the essential principles in hermetics (esotericism is too broad a term for this ) and discovering how they apply to the essential principles within physics . Here you go ... just one example of a post here on record " I might want to try it sometime "
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Demonology. Why focus on the negative?
Nungali replied to Apotheose's topic in Esoteric and Occult Discussion
Nope . They were "stars fallen from heaven " . Like I said , if you REALLY want to know , follow the history of the word and do some research EG . Realize what Revelations actually IS and there metaphors in it . Realize its a story about the then current political world in context of the COMMON 'war in heaven ' motif that is throughout the ancient world : Aesir - Vanir War , Asuras , Devas, Gigantomancy, War between Angels and Jinn, Theomachy, Titanomarchy, etc . That's some deep gematria you got going there Rubbish ! You going to claim some special power of the Bible now because it may or may not have deep hidden meanings about fractions ? - excuse me Sir ..... your indoctrination is showing . -
Demonology. Why focus on the negative?
Nungali replied to Apotheose's topic in Esoteric and Occult Discussion
There where Gnostics that thought exactly that and thought to do 'bad' in the eyes of this terrible 'God' actually means you are doing good , So they worshiped other Gods , practiced homosexuality, adultery , etc . Then there was the other group that wanted to do all that but were still too indoctrinated . Solution ? They found some passage that said while man walks on God's earth he must obey his rules .... when they were 'on the surface ' they were good . For 'other needs' they set up down in caves party time ! -
Does that assume that a human consciousness has identified all possibilities? I suspect there are many timelines, universes and species that human consciousness has yet to discover.
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Dao = 0 the unmanifest . Giving birth to the one unveils its inner 'potential' ... the 'one ' being expressed as ( n- + n+ ) which = 0 The one giving birth to the two , n _ n+ unveils its inner potential ; - and + which is within the signature of all creation (10,000 things ) ; in physics this relates to 'supersymetry theory ' . I better not go on about that here , but it is a principle theorized to exist in many fields ' The supersymmetry algebra Supersymmetric quantum mechanics In finance Supersymmetry in quantum field theory Supersymmetry in condensed matter physics Supersymmetry in optics Supersymmetry in dynamical systems Supersymmetry in mathematics Supersymmetry in string theory Supersymmetry in particle physics Supersymmetric extensions of the Standard Mode Supersymmetry in alternate numbers of dimensions Fractional supersymmetry
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That singularity that 'emanated ' before the big bang but after ..... whatever came before it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initial_singularity Before ? Aside from being termed Dao ; 2. Models and Theories about What Came Before: Quantum Foam/Multiverse: Some models suggest a pre-Big Bang state of "quantum foam" or a multiverse where our universe is just one of many. Cyclical Universe: Another idea is a cyclical universe, where the Big Bang might be the result of a previous phase of contraction and expansion. Beyond the Big Bang: Some argue that asking about what existed before the Big Bang is meaningless because time as we understand it may have originated with the Big Bang. Inflationary Cosmology: Inflationary cosmology suggests that the universe underwent a period of rapid expansion very early on, which may have started from a finite state rather than a singularity. Hot Tricks in Nova Mix: For those that don't need to speculate on the details but just need a general idea . or ... " A Wizard did it "
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Is this proper Chen style or more of a show form?
markern replied to markern's topic in Daoist Discussion
Thanks. Very useful. I might want to learn that. Any ideas for online tutorials or courses for learning Chen style? I think there may only be Yang style available where I live. Will start a yang style class after the summer I think but want to experiment with Chen on my own. -
Demonology. Why focus on the negative?
Neirong replied to Apotheose's topic in Esoteric and Occult Discussion
Science differs from belief systems because it tests ideas in practical settings. Here is a simple test to verify your concept: Try walking alone into the wild Amazon jungle at night without any weapons or tools to see if a holy aura or positive thinking will deter predators. If your belief holds true, no one will bite or attack you, and you will be able to live for weeks in a literal paradise, breathing high-quality air within the rainforest. Yes, life, self-development, and personal growth are based on learning from experience. If someone believes with absolute certainty that there is a "correct path," from the beginning, they have already lost their way. Most destructive cults I have encountered operate like this. The brainwashed mind shuts down, and the person believes they are following the correct path. -
To add to the excellent reply by Nuralshamal, often things don't work for very simple and straightforward reasons. Prayer it's very mechanical: you give energy, you get bleesings. Sometimes you need to put candles and materia. Sometimes you just need more time. Sometimes you need some link to the target. There is an excellent book about this called "The Elements of Spellcrafting: 21 Keys to Successful Sorcery". Don't get scared by the word sorcery, it's intended very differently from common usage. The stuff there relates a lot to prayer!
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"The phrase "The Tao gave birth to One" translates to "Tao, in its ultimate, undifferentiated state, is the source from which all things, including the concept of 'One,' emerge". It's the first step in the Tao Te Ching's description of the universe's formation, where Tao (the Way or Path) is the origin of all things." I'll go with this for now, alluding to the unmanifest manifesting in the sense of the "One"... thus connected but not the same for the One can be talked about (or named) but not the unmanifest other than being pointed towards.
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Stranger things indeed: Andrew Jackson, a real deadly asshole for native peoples was also said to espouse the democrat way?
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Classical Chinese had two chars for ‘self’: 'I' and 'me'. 'I' can look at 'me'. 吾 (wu2) 'I' - subjective ‘self’; 我 (wo3) 'me' - objective ‘self’
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After his meteoric rise a year ago from about as obscure as possible to as noticable as can be imagined, Oliver Anthony said, that his rant of a folk song, Rich Men North of Virginia, isn't politics, it is Spiritual. He's close to your neck of the woods, eh? Here is some immediate reaction from commentators Oliver Anthony, himself, said, this is way bigger than politics or politicians. By magnitudes, I would add. The Pope? Idk When a voice cries out from the wilderness, the universe takes notice.
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When I was 12 years old, I delivered newspapers. The sunday paper was delivered early in the morning. It was normal for me to go door to door in the darkness before dawn and to watch a nice sunrise as the sun came up. The TV in the living room was on. There was an old horror movie about a genie. While I was walking down a path to deliver a paper. Suddenly a voice behind me, that seemed near the back of my neck said something in a whispering or hissing voice. (I could make out the words but dont want to repeat what it said). I looked behind me. There was nothing there. There was nothing within 10 to 20 feet of me other than the pavement walkway I was walking on. Bordered on both sides by grass. I ran to deliver the paper where it was supposed to go. Rode home. Got a pocket knife for protection. Finished my route. Being somewhat rattled the entire time. To this day I wonder what it was. Ventriloquist is my favorite explanation.
