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Good question, I was exploring references to kundalini in Indian literature via AI and it came up with this one. Examining it further "ṛtasya dṛṣṭau prathamaṁ mahīyate" → "In the vision of cosmic order (ṛta), the Earth is exalted first." Earth (Mahī) is given primacy, much like how kundalini (Earth energy) is the root force that must awaken before ascension to higher consciousness can occur. This suggests that the spiritual process begins from the base (Earth/root) before rising to the higher (Brahman/cosmic order). "yatra brahmā viśvam idam varīyasi" → "There, where the divine knowledge (Brahman) encompasses the whole universe." Brahman represents the unified field of consciousness, the goal of kundalini’s journey—to merge the individual spirit with the ultimate reality. The verse suggests that within ṛta (cosmic order), Earth energy plays a fundamental role in the unfolding of universal knowledge, which is essentially the kundalini process. The verse emphasizes Earth as the starting point of the divine unfolding, just as kundalini is rooted in Earth energy (Muladhara) before ascending. Union of Earth & Spirit: This verse acknowledges the cosmic interconnectedness of the physical (Earth) and the Absolute (Brahman), which is precisely what kundalini facilitates—raising energy from the base of existence to ultimate wisdom. It might be an overly imaginative reading, but I can see where AI is coming from. The earth is exalted first, and it is from within the earth that divine knowledge encompasses the universe.
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Are you sure Rigveda 10.189.1 has that meaning ? 🤔 I thought it is talking about earth and sun rotation ?
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any argument has convolutions of one sort or another...
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If the argument is convoluted, it’s not true.
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Martyr! by Kaveh Akbar is a poem in the form of the novel. I've tried writing some thoughts about it this morning but they seem so pretentious and inadequate. Perhaps it is enough to say that on finishing the book last night at 2am, I wanted nothing more than to get in my car and drive the 1,000 miles to Iowa to thank him and hug him.
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It's rather tame compared to the Buddhist grunge and all the mopai trash that heaped up a decade or so ago...
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yep, so simple that thought can not nail it down...
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Strangely, the English and Chinese version of Wiki for WLP are different. In Chinese version, there is a section called Controversy: translated to be as follows. In China, there are different opinions about Wang Liping's status in Taoism and the content of his teachings. Some people think it is the true inheritance of Taoism, while some people think it is misleading. In the West, there has been a long-standing controversy over the high tuition fees charged by Wang Liping. After some people participated in Wang Liping's small class, they scorned and verbally attacked practitioners of other sects and Taoist enthusiasts who had not participated in the small class. Online intimidation of those who hold different opinions has caused many different opinions and controversies. He is indeed controversial.
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I wouldn’t just pick 1 or 2. If you are short of time and just want to focus on a few out of volume 1 and 2, do Monk Gazes at Moon, Monk Holds Peach and Monk Holds Pearl. Do them for 20 mins each.
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Oh my. This entire thread could well be the biggest shitshow on TDB
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The truth is simple.
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My personal version of an integrative model approaches ‘spirituality’ and ultimate truth from an entirely different perspective. Relative practices are the work, a shift away from the relative self would be a shift away from integrative potential. The shift that does happen after many years of relative work is into a deeper more powerful consciousness within the body and the sense of self, equivalent to a shift into the central channel. This then becomes the stage for a different, more ‘energised’ level of relative work, which still addresses and works with emotions and thoughts (that weren’t sorted in the initial relative work, ie. underlying karma). These three consciousnesses, emotional mental and ‘energetic’, then align in the centre of the body in a central ‘dantian’, which aligns them with the soul or original self in the causal body, which can be seen as a fourth consciousness. The relative consciousnesses, purified and ‘upgraded’ through this work, are in direct communication and alignment with the deepest embodied Self, which is itself aligned with whatever is beyond one as an individual. Four consciousnesses, which all play a vital role in one’s life, and are all in direct communication with each other, in effect a team, headed by the fourth consciousness. In an integrative model there is no possibility of abandoning relative practices too quick since relative practices are the work.
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How do you ask for clarification on the identity of an elderly small woman in Switzerland ?
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Freud dancing in his grave. J.D. Rockefeller who put an end to worldwide medical traditions in favor of petroleum-derived medicine was the son of an herbalist.
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TDB is slow and glitchy at times. Please fix. Sean the owner is not around to fix problems that need taken care of. Where is he?
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Everyone post some favorite quotes!
silent thunder replied to GrandTrinity's topic in General Discussion
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I must say that this is one of the best things I've read in some time. Thank you @forestofclarity for that delightful metaphor!
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Anyone wondering why they can't get in touch with Master Wang, just reread this thread. The answer is here.
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Where are all the people saying he was just talking now?
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I don't know if it's been mentioned, but the initial model sounds like it is dividing ultimate truth from relative truth, and seems to be describing a classic Samkhya, renunciate approach. Relative practices are often important, and this would include various forms of healing, therapy, integration, etc. But over time, the relative practices become less necessary as one's center of gravity shifts away from the relative self to a more open spacious awareness. This is not a state of inactive passivity but a state of spontaneous action. And the shift itself need not be forced, it just happens. One issue is that people often overestimate their development tend to abandon the relative practices too quick, which some teachers describe as premature immaculation.
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Is there one or 2 forms from Levels 1 and 2 that are recommended as the most healing? Like if I want to just do an hour of 1 or of 2 things in order to bring the most healing- which would they be?
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Sure- mostly because everything was going great- no crises. However I'd been reading so many positives about people doing FP - I figured "why not give it a try?!" I'm a believer in that it is always easier and better to try new things when things are calm vs when in the middle of a storm or crises and you are feeling forced to find a solution. Just my philosophy. Kind of like the saying "better to fix your roof on a sunny day than during a rain storm".
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Turnip, Thank you. That explanation resonates with me as far as mixing energies. While doing PanGu I was able to also blend some aspects of SFQ levels 1 and 2 and had only positive experiences blending them daily. Sounds like I need a washout period in order to enjoy any benefits from FP. I appreciate you and your info!
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