SecretGrotto

Hundun, it is what Jesus says: "But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you." This is so beautifully exemplified by your life, and such a wonderful confirmation of what I have always believed, i.e. that there is a Divine power that aligns the manifested world in such a way that the seekers desires are fulfilled. And this is especially so when the seeker becomes detached from earthly things. It is like the moment you really don't want anything anymore, then the Universe conspires to provide said thing in spades and plentitude.

When touching the tip of my tongue to the roof of my mouth and doing energy work there is a notable burning sensation that increases in intensity felt on the tip of my tongue. I understand that during meditation one should put the tongue tip against the soft pallet and lightly touch the teeth together. The soft palate is toward the back of the mouth, so there is definite stretch in the bottom of the tongue. I do feel that my jaws tend to tense up due to the teeth having to touch, which has the purpose (I believe) of bringing the tongue further up toward the back of the mouth, and that in itself the teeth touching doesn't really do anything metaphysically speaking. I understand that touching the tongue to the mouth roof closes the energy circuit of the body and allows for complete energy circulation, but is it always good to keep the tongue in that position? I am a beginner at meditation, and I think I can start feeling my jing moving as heat flashes across the skin, especially the skin of my torso and especially around the lower dan tien area. My tongue has always burned when touching the top palate, after some minutes in meditation, even after severe and constant jing depletion. The funny thing is that usually after jing depletion my dream life becomes notably more vivid.

Yeah this is sort of counter intuitive, one would expect energy work and development to produce a richer dreamlife.

This will make things a lot easier; here I was thinking "more pain, more gain." Certainly, from the testimonials of Wang Liping's intensives it seems that the endurance of pain is the order of the day. Thanks Ish, Mike, OldChi. I'm under the impression that practicing the extreme tongue position at the back of the mouth will make future achievement of kechari mudra much easier. I definitely do feel a tense constriction in the jaw doing this extreme tongue position, so I was wondering how students move past this stage, but I had the tongue position all wrong it seems. So what do you guys think the reason is for the acute burning of the tongue tip in the back of the mouth during meditation? I doubt that it is qi, or even jing, because it seems to happen consistently independent of assumed jing levels, and my qi is relatively undeveloped.

I may have the wrong impression, I have misunderstood things that I have read. From Ling Bao Tong Zhi Neng Nei Gong Shu: "...and the tongue is on the soft palate and behind the front teeth, body is still." I am almost certain that I read the teeth should be touching, but I cannot divine the source at this moment. So I got confused since I thought, and in my mouth at least, the roof is hard in front of the mouth (behind the teeth) and substantially softer further back in the mouth. That impression, together with the eventual attainment and natural inclination of kechari mudra, and the fact that I have a burning sensation in the back rather than the front of the mouth roof, made me believe that it is better to place the tongue further back in the mouth. So it seems like you are saying that the tongue should just lightly touch the place just behind the teeth (with the tongue touching the teeth?), and the teeth should touch or not touch? Thank you.

Teeth and mosquitos! OP I understand your post, and I would also like to have an answer to your question, because I've been wanting to be able to focus a lot of time on my meditation for a long time, whilst not having to become a homeless man or embarrass my family. A homeless man said that he loves living in nature and eating out of dumpsters, and that he has figured everything out from laundry in the river, to using dirt for both a deodorant and to wipe his butt with after, but that he still needs to figure out teeth and mosquito's. I know, e.g. from the autobiography of swami ramdas, that sadhu's lose most teeth in the end, and so I project that a life without money would result in some serious dental issues. Other than that I would've considered becoming homeless if all other options were exhausted, but then I'd embarrass my siblings and parents and place a moral burden on their shoulders, because they'd feel like they would have to pay my medical bills if something were to happen to me. And if it is a chronic condition that requires life long care then it'd be a real bummer.

I am a long-time consumer of metaphysical literature, and am busy writing a book for my Christian parents. I hope to give them an insight into the mind of their wayward child, and to share my understanding that led me to move away from their religion. I have joined this forum to further study the internal arts and to clarify my research. Writing this book is very difficult for me, because I don't like reinventing the wheel. I could sum the book to my parents up with: "Pull your heads out of your bottoms and read a book now and again!" Really, there is so much info out there, just seconds away from being read, that can totally convince one of the possibility that Christianity does not have exclusive rights on salvation. I am trying to curb this egoic involvement, because I know that it will not bring me lasting happiness, at all. Still, I would like to act pre-emptively, since my parents think I am a devout Christian, but I will have to break the news to them sometime or another as my life-choices become more apparent.

Over the years I've done far too much reading and procrastinating. At 28 and after more than 10 years of theoretical study of metaphysics and mysticism I am steadily reaching breaking point, where I have to start a serious practice. I cannot tolerate all the planning and hypothesizing any more, and I really believe that an ounce of practice would be worth far more. A big obstacle for me is that I care about how my life-choices will influence my family, and they cannot support my choices because of their associations. I know that an earnest, deep practice that sacrifices a conventional lifestyle and income will reward with a calibre of benefits that simply cannot be matched by a worldly life. From the few experiences I have had I thrill to think that it was just the beginning. During extraordinarily deep practice, for me, my dream life becomes so profound. It cannot be explained in a linear way, but the feelings that accompany those states give me such a deep satisfaction. And I know that my living conditions are far from optimal for spiritual growth. I am removed from nature. I can only imagine how much it would benefit me to balance myself in the heart of nature, and to change my diet in accordance with best practices. I have realized in the past couple of days that my first aim should be to break my body into an almost austere practice where I can tolerate sitting unmoving in meditation for at least an hour. In the fashion that Wang Liping was broken into a 4 hour full-lotus session by his masters in Opening the Dragon gate. Many might not agree, and this might not be the best approach for everyone. I have simply arrived at this point where I know my weaknesses and how they might be resolved. For many it might be no problem to sit unmoving for 1 hour, yet it is something I have yet to master. I believe that something very beneficial takes place if one breaks through barriers of discomfort like that. I am reminded of how Chunyi Lin sat for something like 8 hours during a seminar given by a Qi Gong master in a park, and how his body went through extremes and was significantly healed of severe physical injury. I myself am struggling with a sports injury in my back, and after about 20 minutes my back flares up. However, I have found that struggling through 40 minutes numbs the whole body and my mind approaches an altered state. I fully believe that by practicing Nei Gong that my body will fully heal itself, but at the moment I am just a beginner. Now I am avoiding cold food and drinks, and I can really feel energetic movements in my belly since then. I am also abstaining from draining Jing. I am not sure that I am feeling the lower dan tien, per se, but there is a change occurring in my body. Now that I am paying attention to energy in my body, I can feel that I am getting periodic flashes of heat circulating around my body and skin. A big problem I have had during meditation at night and early morning is what I think is too much Yang energy, almost like acid reflux, even when I know it isn't likely to be acid reflux. It is like an imbalance and keeping the body and mind still seems to aggravate the condition so much so that it feels like heat is building up in my torso and neck. Another problem in the evening is that I get so sleepy during practice that I just cannot stand it any longer and I have to go lie down. A problem with meditating while waking up is that it is like my mind is in a numbed state that does not promote a successful meditation experience. But I think that if I change my goals from having a good meditation to breaking my body into submission then I will make better progress. I know at least that until now the former goal made me prone to give up prematurely due to aforementioned difficulties. I am reading Daoist Nei Gong by Damo Mitchell at the moment, and I really like it because it divulges the expected progression and explanation of underlying mechanisms. I do like knowing what to look out for and what to expect during practice. I hope to at least feel my lower dan tien clearly, as a next step of progression. When I raise energy by leg bouncing into the root chakra I can really feel the area heat up, so I have felt that before, but I really am an amateur. I would not normally write like this, lest I reduce motivative pressure, but I think that some of the readers might have advice for me.

I only have two physical books on my shelf, one is the Bible and the other is The Second Coming of Christ. (The rest of my 100+ books are Kindles, PDFs and Djvu's.) The SCC is monumentally sublime, 1500+ pages of the most condensed spiritual insight you will read anywhere, highly recommended.

That is very inspiring cat, you are very blessed. More from the Second Coming of Christ by Paramahansa Yogananda:

It manifests spontaneously and is universally experienced in humans. It is one of the more prominent and important of spiritual experiences, I think, that is universally experienced. The adogmatic adept Robert Bruce notably lassoes the center star with mental imagery during high-level projection to enter the realm of God, together with intra-projection charging of the middle dan tien. I draw my analogy to the Christian Trinity of God-consciousness, Christ-consciousness and the Holy Spirit from the Second Coming of Christ by Paramahansa Yogananda. What is remarkable about this vision is that it is a living reflection of one's higher sheaths or bodies, a direct visual confirmation of one's divinity. And as Robert Bruce has shown us, it is responds to intent and is a road map and target board for one's development.