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I'm out of this one then. Would love to continue to morality debate though without derailing the OP.
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Abortion: not for or against but discussion only please.
xor replied to chegg's topic in Esoteric and Occult Discussion
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The polarization is not useful either way. Not all vegetarians are peaceful isn't that obvious? Diet doesn't change you into peaceful or violent toward people. Nor does it make your teeth fell off in a few months. There isn't any morally superior position to be gained here. If you read my posts with a clear mind you will see I'm advocating a moderate position and against dehumanizing either personal choice.
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Are we also going after all animal activists after this? Just curious since alot of Nazis were into that sort of thing.
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You took the ball and ran with it. Same kind of argument as the "meat is murder" dehumanizes meat-eaters, this one is a pandora's box of dehumanizing vegetarians.
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The singing is actually local traditional styles More Finnish(edit: actually to be specific Karelian) singing close to trad: Modern Sámi folk with yoik singing:
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Some folk, Swedish/Finnish band with Finnish female singing, male singing is sámi yoik: Glad you liked it. I'm a big fan of throat-singing and found this group just recently. All their songs sound good, here's another one:
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You just had to go there.
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I think the "meat is murder" slogan opens up a pandora's box, it's very different from saying you want to avoid killing animals yourself or eating the end product. I don't think we should disturb it. If we go that way we dehumanize alot of people and they in turn react to us. I never thought that way when I was a vegetarian and still it offended alot of people who were sure it was in line with my reasons to go veg. [edited out personal story]
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Damn this is a good site. Thanks alot.
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Would be interesting if you would start a new thread on grains, Taomeow. I don't want to derail this topic and don't have much to go on in that topic except gluten-free has been heaven for me(don't have coeliacs) and alot of folks I know are leaving grains... it seems everyone has different reasons though for doing it. I didn't actually think about an ethical dimension in my choice just my own health. It's been easily best choice in diet I've made so far.
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You are right ofcourse. Wim Hof made statements that he could teach anyone control of the immune system. The response he got from skeptics was it was against natural laws and no one could do it, ergo he was lying and making a supernatural claim. That may have created confusion with the one writing the text for the narrator.
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10th Dan Goju-ryu Higaonna sensei teaching Sanchin breathing: Also found this article on yijinjing... looks promising http://www.kongfu.org/english/MartialArts/MA_3.htm
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Yeah, science doesn't know even the most basic qi but maybe we'll get there eventually. I used to think it would remain a mystery for the modern world with just isolated people and groups having any idea, much like similiar concepts we have had here in the west that were buried because scientists as a group(there have always been exceptions) no longer understood the terminologies or needed them. Now I'm starting to take a more positive view, so many smart people now working with both qi and science it shouldn't be that it will remain a mystery. I expect to see them peal the first layer of it atleast within a few decades if this continues. See Wim Hof for example
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I wouldn't let it bother you if someone thinks what they do is more moral then what you do.
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I think it turned off alot of people to New Age. It was a long wait to... wait for it..... nothing.
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Love the commentator's tone even though my Chinese isn't good enough to understand all of it, I think I got the idea. Reminds me of this one... how different these talent show hosts are compared to him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIHaEWy2AUU
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It was strange how he changed from vegan to vegetarian in those arguments. So lacto-ovo vegetarians have better bone density than omnivores? Cite vegans who have less bone density...
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1. Well the cattle eat those grains and soy produced in the modern agriculture way. So it is a non-issue. You have to however consider if you want to a ) minimize unnecessary death or b ) you just don't want to eat the end product of some creature's death. These are different issues. For a ) your best bet would be to get food from a farm that isn't part of the monster of modern agriculture. Grass-fed beef etc would be better than meat you can buy in a store and better than soy etc and veggies, fruits, whatever from that farm even better. For b ) you have an easy choice. Just stop eating something you don't want to. 2. You might make some mistakes but do research on your own, experiment. Taking responsibility for your own path is what it's all about.
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I've tried the diplomatic way before but let me say this in a way some people understand better I'd be frustrated if I had to lock this thread again. This is my second warden warning in this thread. Take whatever problems you have with each other to PMs or the Pit.
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Guys let's not start this again. Focus on the ideas not the people.
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Interesting, that would explain why your thoughts are so opposed to some others here. I can understand the logic behind many of the statements you've made here based on this. Without enough experience however I can't tell who is right or if these are different paths leading to different places, with books I don't know if I could come to a conclusion.
