Mudfoot

Eh, yes. Or, no. It's complicated. But if you rephrase that to "It is more likely that you will encounter the external shaolin methods" I would say you are spot on 😁

Which accidentically can happen even to an iron hand master who can break whatever with his hands. Saw that in - 96, when the teacher spent his last days in the course with his hands in a cast, after a street fight. 😁

It is called something with sillybearhappyhoneyeater, and discusses why Robert Coons sucks at meditation because he refuses to be pineal-centered and doesn't read Taoist Yoga.

I remember one directly. You claimed that a study with about 20 participants gave good enough statistics, while the authors of that study wrote that the study population was too small. So at least that one is not a false accusation. Since I don't save these for later use, I do not have a collection for you, but in one of the quantum references you quotes where you put up the model as a fact, the author used (I do not remember if it was "might" or "maybe"), hinting at that this is NOT YET proven with tests. It might be, so I am not saying it is wrong. And, your reactions to the Coons clips recently was, in my opinion, way of. I could go back and do more of these, but that would not change anything. You will continue to write, and now and then I will check up the reference and be disappointed.

You might start with looking at the three youtube clips that drew used as a base for his thread. And then watch drew build a straw man...... This is not the same as being "outed as a fake". Hope you can see this. Now, if he said you were unintelligent without having you do an IQ test, obviously he was unaccurate. Or just insulting you.... 😁 In which context was this? Maybe he ment something else, like you displayed a behaviour? Rash? Rigid? Stupid?

I would say, next to the technospeak, that the problem is that a significant amount of those references doesn't seem to say what Void claims they say, or if they do, they insert word like maybe. I have checked up several, and in some cases even bothered to post a comment about it. Maybe, in another 10-20 years, the field of biological quantum whatever will be mature enough to be useful to understand some of the experiences in meditation. On the other hand, the masters of old managed quite well without that theory, so it is very likely that a modern practitioner can manage without it as well.

Nah. You would have to do mass murder to fulfill the picture of angelic, like one in every house. This is small stuff, at most a miffed house hold spirit. 😁

Zouhuo rumo?

The original players have left, the explanations are at length, and this thread definetly have gone south. 😁 As predicted.

@Harmen You just erased one of my catch phrases. Thanks, hope I will see more of that happening here.

Well. Some westerners acquire discipleship in several Pai's. (JAJ and Ian Duncan comes to mind) So I guess:More is better.

Traditional super secret school of how to become immortal surpreme spiritual dude. Sort of.

Except Void, who explains them at length.

You are not part of a Pai, are you.... 😁

Come one, you know that noone ever answers a direct question about Nei Dan terminology here on TDB. At best, there will be a small dance-along before the thread goes south.

A good pedigree should be both long and have famous ancestors. Why settle for less?

Can you convince anyone from a traditional lineage of daoist practice that this is the case? Or is it your opinion?

Wrong animal. It's horse, not bull. There are just some common denominators.

It's called beer.

And I was discussing how to enhance your internal coherence with the help of breathing, not martial or spiritual applications.

Relaxed focus in the LDT area will also do this, I would post a link to this if I was close to a computer.

Important distinction. This is always a thing with research, what is it that the result actually points at? Immunosupression is important in some cases, the question is does it work in the other direction as well? If it works in both directions you have a very useful method.

@Daemon Have you ever tried to see if you can correllate the reading on the biofeedback equipment with manual pulse check. I don't mean tcm pulse, just feeling if the rsa kicks in and if it becomes optimally synced? My employer doesn't want to supply me with proper equipment, I might have to do some more lobbying on this....

That would be polo, and you can have your fill of that as well. 😁

It never is. It is just a valid starting point for the practitioner without gadgets (most of us). It is also mechanical, that is, you are not using your mind in an optimal way. You can divide the method in two separate parts, which both affect the HRV. The RSA is one, correct focus is the other one. Which leads to the question of which focus is the most optimal.