Mudfoot

When you have mastered yourself, the internet becomes more confusing....?

Doesn't explain why the clothes get stuck. Metal shirt? Chainmail?

Way out of mine line of study. I was just looking at some info about Altair. 😁

Just went through the pile of articles on my desk. Sorry, I have lost it. ...... A couple of hours later... 😁 The origin of Twenty-eight Mansions in Astronomy. Coching Chu Popular Astronomy vol 55, p 62-77.

I recently read an article where the authors had analyzed the chinese and indian systems, and they came to the conclusion that the chinese model had a better fit to how the stars and planets moved, which would lead to their idea that India incorporated a chinese model. I might be able to dig that article up if anyone is interested.

Then you take responsibility to your reaction (includes freeze) when you have the opportunity. By releasing your system or mopping up the blood, depending on which of the two you landed in.

And I managed to not make a pun on that one. Presenting the new, improved Mudfoot. 😁 (wandelaar's post)

If you spend your life trying to master an art that goes back centuries or millenia, do you then have a firm grasp of the modern way of peddling it? Not always. 😁

Objective. 😁

Isn't it Liu I-Ming that though that daoism was in a sorry state, people studying Nei Dan classics but ending up wanking off or moving a bit of Qi instead of realizing the Dao? He put it slightly different, being a scholar, but if you cut to the chase that seemed to be his main point. And those practitioners he critisized had access to teachers, didn't have to rely on translations, and still ended up by a side door. Shows how difficult this area is. 😁

Ian Duncan's book Mapping the mystery is soon out. He has a blog on one part, Iron ox plows the earth, sowing seeds for gold. He takes a wide, philosophical approach, in line with the astrological "the Iron ox is the most hard working of oxen". This is one approach, this was my first choice when I started to study the NJT one and a half years ago. I let that go. First for when my ldt had a period of contraction (metal), which made sense at the time. But that didn't satisfy, so I searched on. Then I found a more useful reference, connecting it to an actual practice. I really hope that Ian Duncan hops of the philosophical horse and ground the rest of the book in actual practice. In Bruce Frantzis' words : This is what it says. This is what it means. This is how you do it. Without this, he is not Mapping the mystery. Then he is just flapping his lips, and I will place his book in the shelf next to the other lip-flappers on this subject. 😁

I see that Coffee is trying to make this into a MP thread. Last summer that one made 1000+ posts. Although that was entertaining, I'm going to pass this one. Maybe someone else will come out to play?

This was much better. Still, you couldn't helpyyourself from adding some physics, but the rest I could actually follow. I would disagree on a couple of small points, mostly the terminology, but this seems to be a fair description of a process that happens in my practice. I just don't go through the Organs in the way you describe it, which threw me off at first. But that might be just linguistics. 😁

Sorry, but that is not true. 😁 Open up any of the traditional Nei Dan books, and you can have your fill.

The beautiful girl traveling has her own direction; the first trip should be short, the next trip long. Coming back, she goes into the yellow woman's house, marries the metal man and makes him her old man. This is what it says; this is what it means ; and this is how you do it. That is how Bruce Frantzis describes how you learn from books. And this is what this thread needs. A practical analysis and explanation of your insight @voidisyinyang because at present too much of this could mean anything. So how does the right hand up, left hand down model fit with the dragon-liver and tiger-lung theory, how does that fit with the upper body as yang and right hand as yin theory? How does that fit with moving exercises, where one is done on the center line and the other on the right and left side channels? And how does that fit with static stances, some which fit your model, some are mirrored, and some are made with the hands in the same position thus not fitting the model at al? And do you separate the post heaven D&T from the perfect yang dragon and yin tiger? If you were to explain this to someone with a highschool level of education, how would you present it? Because that would be really interesting to have a discussion about.

And as you will see, we are very good at providing multiple answers

Theravada buddhism?

"Lessen desire" does not depend on celibacy. Although I feel you will disagree on that one 😁

Or we remain stuck in a dual perspective.

1) Small steps 2) An immense experience through meditation, where your interpretation of things change. No 2 being the most important IMO.

The idea of common humanity, as it is called in Neff's version of self-compassion. Very useful. And very good @steve that you pointed out the context of where this is relevant.

Yes, this is an important issue. Should a child take responsibility for being molested? That is actually a psychological trick used by the perpetrator. Should a woman take responsibility for being raped. That line of reasoning is sometimes used in court. And so on. As an adult, I can learn to assume responsibility for my thoughts, emotions, physiological reactions, and my behaviour. And psychotherapy have assimilated a lot from eastern spiritual traditions, working with all levels of being.

At the same time, blame (shame, guilt) are natural emotional reactions which motivate us to take responsibility and action. But, in the terms of Kashmir Shaivism, they also leads to contraction, and in a contracted state you are limited.

And if you read up on his material, you will see that you need more to get an energetic wave from the feet up the niwan and out to the hands. It is contained in the six harmonies and in the physicality, but there is more to it.

Or that they do not work enough with the wuji stance, and focus too much on their fighting ability.