Mudfoot

And if you practice sufism, God is as close as your jugular artery.

One of Mantak Chias students. This made me open the book Cosmic Healing I:Cosmic Chi Kung. And after sleeping on it, I erased most of my post.

The only buddhist method based on energy I am familiar with work with the right and left side channels and the central channel rather than the MCO.

Shi Degen use the sword finger mudra for healing, but available books and dvds only speaks of the combat applications. And one finger push ups. Songshan had a version that travelled to Emei Shan around 1920, one master from that branch moved to Singapore. It is called Kong Jing Gong today, Mantak Chia calls it Cosmic Qigong and Buddha palm, it is a simplified version with Emei energetics mixed in.

No, only how much the fares cost. Regarding the Yizi Chan, this is also taught at Songshan. In the South, it is a mudra based system working on quite a lot of "stuff", in the North, it is a method for making your fingers in to weapons.

Close enough. We found out what happens when the heart is agitated. And that it happens even in spiritually really evolved people.

This one is very readable, in the light of possible practices connected to the NJT. http://cccp.uchicago.edu/archive/2010Creel-LucePaleographyWorkshop/Yong-yun Lee - on Taiyi sheng shui Cosmology.pdf

This means I am now more motivated to join, spam and/or troll your threads in the future. And I am going to use a polite and balanced language, and pretend I am contributing. F.y.i: My posts in this thread have been in a sincere spirit, in line with your initial question. You would see that if you could keep your temper. But never mind, if keeping me on ignore helps you mitigate the pain on being on TDB, keep me there.

Well written by Taomeow! So both Shaolin Do (you can read about that one on kung fu magazines forum) and my style claim to come from a Southern Shaolin monastery still filled with monks in the early 20 century, but noone can find out where the remains are now. As for Wong Kiew Kit, by his own writing he claim to have changed so much, his teachers teacher would probably not recognize what is being taught. He has also constructed his own taiji form, and teaches Xing-yi and Bagwa, so how much has that affected his other kung fu practices? His qigong is heavily influenced by spontaneous five animal qigong. Doesn’t say that Shaolin doesn’t have some powerful qigong. If you surf Wudang sites, one of the main teachers spent years travelling China learning(!) internal arts before setteling on Wudang, so that is not the teaching of traditional "Wudang" arts either. Just Like Shaolin, it is a collective of teachers.......

JAJ writes that the Niwan is energetically connected to the Heart, if that is a help.

I would also say that, after, what I have read and seen, those that added "daoist" nei gung and used this to further their understanding of the six harmonies and so on were reluctant to teach this. You stumble over this over and over again, (so called) internal or softer Shaolin arts come with the story that "this was not taught to the ordinary fighting monks". In Sal C's book and others on the subject, you find comments like "this Knowledge was lost after a few generations". So, in line with what Taomeow wrote above, monks didn't trust other monks and Shaolin was (personal communication from Sal C.) not one but several lineages.

Yes. And you want to understand your love better, so you practice with a passion.

As far as I can tell, Shaolin Nei Jing Yi Zhi Chan is rooted in India or Tibet. This is mostly seen in the Luo Han Gong, the second level. This is around generation 20, so no relation to Bodhidharma. As to the first, Sal C paints the picture in great detail, lets just say that many great teachers had great teachers from multiple traditions.

There are some problems with the Southern shaolin monastery. Both present and past...... At least two schools claim their founder was taught there in the 1900-hundreds, but noone seems to be able to pin point where exactly it was. Maybe they moved it a lot, down there in Fujian. I'm not sure, been a while, but since it is about bagwa, taiji and xing-yi, it has it focus on the north if I recall right.

You disagree with this then? The last sentence.

You know how it is with methods. Marblehead likes the method of no method, I only like what I do, and there is a traditional discussion here on TDB on the subject of level zero dead-end practices

Xin =heart /mind. Shen, spirit, rests in the Heart at night, but goes into your brain during the day. And then you can make this very complicated, all things pertaining TCM and Nei Dan gets more complicated. I'm positive a more complex version will be posted soon.

Except those methods that are rooted in Daoist traditions, there are records of cross-pollination. And those method that are rooted in general chinese tradition. All mixed up.

So, Chinese tradition is to attribute methods to legendary/famous historical persons. It gives weight to your method. At the same time, quite a few teachers change what they have learned, so the tradition changes. And some teachers make it up as they go, using old names to their own inventions. Looking at your teacher, you might see what result s/he got. But even that is difficult, since many teachers practice multiple methods. If the third Shaolin lineage have 34 generations, stemming from the 12-hundreds something, a "true" unbroken lineage to Bodhidharma would be around 60 generations by now? Is there anyone except David V claiming to be part of that?

I wouldn't start with zz. Your emotions are motivating you to move. So find some easy movements to start with. In general, you might want to experiment with approach/withdrawal and opening/closing. But, as many are fond to say here, these are the principles, but you need a method and preferably a guide if you want to approach your emotions in a nice way. Gung-ho will probably not be the efficient way to proceed, at least not in my experience, at least not in the beginning. If you save energy the strong days, there is more left to work with you on the weak days.

Yo Banana! You might find that a standing qigong with more focus on the physical movement (rather than a focus on energy) lays a really good foundation for emotional work, including self-image, agency, and all the other terms popular within the psych circles. Taiji is usually too complicated in the beginning to get these results, and starting with kundalini based stuff might really strain your emotions, making the ride harder. But then again, some like it the hard way.

Nooooooo The business might collaps.

After the sword has struck, visibility doesn’t matter anymore

So you would not spend time learning Mawangdui qigong then? Right from the tomb, talk about a dead lineage

I just filled a thread in my PPD with quotes about what master and mastery might be.