silent thunder

"At the still point of the turning world. Neither flesh nor fleshless; Neither from nor towards; at the still point, there the dance is, But neither arrest nor movement. And do not call it fixity, Where past and future are gathered. Neither movement from nor towards, Neither ascent nor decline. Except for the point, the still point, There would be no dance, and there is only the dance." T.S. Eliot.

the level of disconnect... staggering. may you awaken in healing, contentment and love. peace.

you my friend, have embodied that to me, from the first words of yours I ever read.

done and thank you... *deep bow of respect* superpowers being expressed plain as day... right here, now.

quoted from this post: one more from this post: your words your claims our reflection back to you I wish you no ill will, no harm. As with the parents who abused my wife as a child... I wish them no harm, no ill will. I wish only healing and peace and stability... in the selfish hope, that you and they, will cease abusing and inciting violence on the unsuspecting and the innocent.

If it's made up, then you made it up and frankly that would be preferrable for me. It's why I didn't immediately confront it, as intial inertia compelled me to.... We are now reflecting the light of your own words back to you mate. The whole point of this push back is the similarity in the lack of ethical behavior that you call out in others, that you yourself, with your own words, have admitted time and again to using on unsuspecting, underage girls. You bragged about it, wore it as a badge of achievement and high skill, bathing in the attention. You brought that information here. You shared it. This time, when you started a public conversation condemning perverted and predatory behavior, when you chose to attack others for it, I did not resist the compulsion to reflect the light back this time and others simply have resonated harmonically and added their vibrations to my own... And we're not all males. Illuminarien... (one who brings light) has shown considerable care and compasssion to spend her own time and energy (female energy... gasp!) To reflect back to you the irony of it. You claimed this. You brought it here, to a public forum. Others are naturally reacting to it. We are calling you on it. We are holding up a mirror.

I may have to reconsider my superpower.... Tai Qi Snow Leopard living in the Fjords of Norway...

and yet... underlying all of this fluid process of living... there seems a unifying principle aspect of all realities however they are experienced: awareness the very fabric of which are woven the body, the mind, the senses, feelings, thinkings, talking, sharing, writing and reading words, labeling, evaluating, comprehending, misunderstanding... underneath all of living... awareness

yes. yes there is. life is one soup of messy life, consuming other life, to sustain life. Sensory input arises. This is primal. Mind adds a label on the sensation "that feels like cool water sliding under the surface of my skin" this is no longer the sensation, but a secondary layer, removed from the primal. Then, often with me, comes the mind storyteller/builder who accomodates judgement about feelings that arise about the label. "i enjoy this sensation. i am distracted by this sensation. this sensation is a sign of progress." etc this is another layer removed from primal. Trying to transmit a semblance of the experience to another mind requires words. So words that are mental notions, abstractions are used as models to aproximate and transfer some semblance of what is an internal, individual experience, to the mind of another. This is so many layers removed from the primal, is it any wonder that agreement on this level is hard to accomplish? We each experience, transduce and interpret the sensory input we know as reality. To try and define what another has experienced by logical deduction of their words... to me is akin to trying to swim in a picture of a river. I may be applauded for my effort and diligence, but I will never get wet.

As soon as you see something, you already start to intellectualize it. As soon as you intellectualize something, it is no longer what you saw. ~Shunryu Suzuki

If you have attained something, this is the surest proof that you have gone astray. Therefore, not to have is to have, silence is thunder, ignorance is enlightenment. D.T. Suzuki !!!!!!!! heard and read so many times... suddenly crystallized

Gotcha. No need to legwork a search for me, but thanks for the offer to go searching. It was a search for what is no doubt a trash fire conversation. Gratefully, the fire has burnt itself out for me. I was just curious as to where those bits (the pit) were, it was my first noticing of that bit of recent changes. I've always appreciated that aspect of this site, your decision in not deleting contributions, but being practical in partitioning certain flavors and energies out of public searchability.

Was looking for some old posts in controversial threads that I figured ended up in The Pit/HunDun. So I'm curious, was The Pit deleted, or merged with Rabbit Hole?

https://www.thedaobums.com/search/?&q="orgasm at a distance"&sortby=newest

here's a quote excerpted from a thread when voidisyinyang had returned after another ban, under yet another name... innersoundsomethingsomething...

at this point i am a student of life all of life has revealed as a teacher at this point and from you, i've learned... neti neti i'mma have to hit you with a 'nah dawg' i wish you no ill, no harm, only healing and a hope you've ceased in your previous entertainment and training

spherical listening In action, it seems to be an intentional reaching out, or unfolding into 360 degree sensory awareness extension. Most often it arises spontaneously, unsought, unconsidered. It processes in local awareness as a reaching out, or becoming aware of, whole being awareness. This process never arose through a human teacher, or any lineage, but was experienced 'of itself' in the midst of years of no gear, no chalk, free-hand rock climbing and tree climbing. For decades this was my go-to favorite work out/play routine. Far more engaging than any gym. More appropriate to be working lifting my own body weight and engaging the entire awareness due to being on the edge of life and death, or grievous potential bodily harm for extended periods of time if one's awareness strays, seems to have been an integral part in its manifestation. For instance, while climbing down a vertical face of rock... (exponentially harder than climbing up, is climbing down as any experienced climber will attest). Listening with the whole entity, or specifically reaching out and listening for the next foothold with the 'ears of the feet'... seems to have cultivated the process.

I'mma have to hit you with a 'nah dawg'.

Conscious life has revealed itself to being akin to a waking shared dream for me. I've been a lifelong lucid dreamer, from my earliest memories of life. In fact one of my earliest memories is of a dream. I regularly experience weaving in and out of the dream state while remaining conscious in recent years. This occurs most often in the mornings, after waking rested but remaining in bed for dream work. It also occurs in sitting meditations regularly, where awareness is empty, but present and suddenly while processing the sounds of the neighborhood, a dream will suddenly arise, whole scenario, full blown while fully awake. On a couple of occasions, dreams have played out with eyes open, as full hypnagogic projective hallucinatory experiences. We do seem, the more I follow the rabbit hole of meditation and inner self exploration, to be hallucinating our experience of reality. Our senses are triggered, we label them in mind, we then identify with them, or reject them and all of this, occurs within our own localized awareness, subjective, isolated. Some years back, a few of us Bums engaged in a shared dreaming process. There was some identifiable success in one of the sessions. Tibetans talk routinely of the dream like nature of waking consciousness and I'm coming to embrace it as a fact of my own experience. Fascinating stuff.

yes. we are aware it is your thread. that is the point in bringing attention to it. you, a predatory perv, calling out another predatory perv and the irony thereof...

Pali is where it's at. I recently encountered Ken Wheeler, who translates Pali and his take on Anatta and Citta were eye opening for me in the extreme.

One that seems on the verge of a superpower and is slowly enveloping me these last few years: 'no longer taking the universe personally'

perv = predatory I recall for the first few years I was a member here, reading @voidisyinyang's repeated bragging accounts of hanging out in coffee shops and public spaces, sitting in full lotus, flexing his vagus nerve and forcedly triggering nearby women teen girls to experience orgasms from a distance. It was as nauseating as it was disconcerting. Usually, I'm not inclined to give this shit any more energy, but felt the irony of him calling out the predatory nature in another as if he were not also the embodiment of this very thing required comment. Perhaps it's time to bring some of those many old quotes out of the past...

Him: Do you suffer from insanity? Me: No. I rather enjoy it.