silent thunder

Iron Finger. I've seen that done, but in the training wheels mode, when you are still rapping the finger in a small gauge rope prior to standing on it. He got into position with two hands, then withdrew the off hand once he found the position and got the qi flowing I guess. Back then I hadn't even heard the word qi and kund fu was just for kicking ass. Such a kid I was! Asked what it was for and the guy gestured as if he would poke his finger behind my wind pipe and hook it... or poke between my ribs, for whatever reason you may want to do that... His other hand was Iron Fist. He'd punch a steel plate 1000 times every day... his first two knuckles on the other hand looked like they had cauliflower growing under the skin from all the bone callousing. Very intense stuff... again... why one would want that.... no idea.

Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, just due to a couple of experiences with your mate. Two lasting realizations that dissovled years of suffering occured for me while using psilocybin, to great lasting effect... now twenty years on. Deeply grateful for that particular plant medicine.... Though I do consider it medicinal in use, not dietary. Though I feel the same about meditation and Qi Gong these days interestingly enough. in the end, even our practices must be transcended, as they too are objects of the mind.

I really appreciate this conversation. Thank you all.

Yea, here it is.

Winter Brothers time.

two warriors meet and fight who wins? likely, the one who is training regularly

where is the topic again..? I seem to have lost it.

Wow. reading most of this stuff... what resonates recently is, some folks take their mind talk so seriously.

Won't it be fun when a few of the analysts over there in utah start a pre-work, wednesday Qi Gong on the Lawn group?

I'm wondering what your intent is in the thread ww... do you have a point, or are you just flexing and naysaying anything regarding women... to impress the ladies?

that pic is hysterical!

lmao! I love my fart name association... reminds me not to take my posts too seriously.

I vote yes... Now, while I love to swim, I don't swim in every pool of water I encounter. Simple presence seems all that is required to determine where I will swim. A recent realization alighted in awareness... that my relationship to and image of my energy body has up to now been saturated with my own latent materialist tendencies and filters. I had been imagining, through my Qi Gong and energy work, that my energy body was shaped like my physical body, existed in a place related to, or near my physical body and that unspoken even to myself, that this energy body behaves according to similar principles and processes to the physical, subject to external viruses and attacks, energetic gravity and such, and that it is harboring defenses and anti-bodies for protection. That evaporated very recently in an experience of release. Utterly releasing, or more accurately, no longer being willing to maintain all notions of a self that needs defending from others who are apart. Sudden realization of the complete acceptance of all phenomena, noumena, ontological processes as cloudlike, illusory, shadow puppetry... as a result, instantly there came a spontaneous unreification of all concepts and notions... and a dissolving/releasing of the process that support reifying of ideas/concepts. This simultaneously resulted in a total dissolution, until yin (which I imagined briefly "i" was still abiding in itself as a concept dissolved along with all notions of self, intent, thought, emotion, identity or others. When all that I maintained through belief, projection and illusory identification with process and reified mental concepts was no longer being maintained... that which remains... was gossamer, subtle and pervasive awareness. Awareness in which no separation abides. None possible as there are no refied objects, no mind process, no emotional tones. Awareness Presence, that like the sky, remains unblemished no matter how many emotional/thought clouds raise hell in it. No bird shit smears it and even with the most amazing skills and tools imaginable, I cannot drive a nail into it, nor spit on it, stain it, paint it, or scratch it. In this, there is no harm possible, nor elevation. Merging is merely the dropping of the illusions of separation that are mere shadow puppets. Though I fully understand the reluctance on an unspoken level for many when matters of this are brought up. Intimacy can be terrifying for some. Even the mere idea of opening up... before any exchange manifests, the sheer act of opening up with intention to connect, can release storms that lay within our mental/emotional landscape. Some folks can feel that as they approach the notion of opening up and the fear is a deal killer. So be it. As with all things. In your own time, walk your path. No fear here any longer. No possibility to worry about such unrealities as protection shields, or psychic and entity assaults. One Awareness. Mind manifestations of shadow playing with projections birthing illusory stories which create a relationship with others whereby a sense of self is generated, that may then be savored, worshipped and defended vigorously. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Merge, don't merge... wake up, sleep... walk the path, don't walk...

um. ok. Well at least someone is paying attention... perhaps my words are entertaining reading at some of the holiday spy parties. "Hey guys, don't you think silent thunder sounds like the name of a particularly heinous fart? Here's another load of spiritualized douchebaginess from his royal ass wind!"

Eventually to transcend perceptual self illusions, even our methods of enlightening ourselves from these illusions must be dissolved and released. Even our beloved meditations and cultivation are another layered filter of perception occluding the true essence. Any notions of deities and indeed all mental concepts eventually will also be released, or they remain a self perpetuating duality vortex for our perceptual self to align with, identify as other and hence maintain the barrier of perceptual duality projection over reality.

true picker.

I SAIL!

More!

very true, very sad story.

sea lions

Could it be that the manner of awareness interacting and experiencing Chakras is what shifts, rather than assuming that the chakras are altered? Though who am I to discount the possibility that chakras can evolve? Change is rather a persistent feature of anything involving a form. It's rather palpable to me, that the patterns of energy I identify as separate Chakras operate together. They are already unified even when when awareness percieves them distinctly and individually. Yet the individual chakras are always functioning as a unified process. Not just that, but they are also unfied with all other systems within the body, the mind and the energetic selves... Is it not plausible that when Awareness shifts from local identity/body/mental processes, the manner of interacting with chakras may shift from expriencing them individually, to systemically...?

Flowers do not open by seeking, or force. They fall open... they dissolve open. collapse open unfolding utterly effortless... without notions, ideas, or desires flowers unfold, exhaling in utter release fall open and release everything and every non thing that which remains...

I wonder at how he felt the first time he used actual chainsaws... I mean... wow.

Yea, funny how that happens with humans. A similar thing happened with Charles Darwin and 'survival of the fittest'.