witch

My third eye's an innie, not an outie!

Hm. Quetzalcoatl is the planet Venus. I think it's appropriate to talk about astrology when something like this is tied into a calendar schedule. I know I've got Eris on the brain (it's in my first house)--but the air element is often represented by the symbolism of wings. Venus has ruled the female earth sign Taurus and the male air sign Libra, until now with the discovery of Eris which will rule Libra. I've found on different sites he was an earth god, a sky god and a water god, so hard to say. He was an intelligent god, so that's in favor of air. And he was a dualistic god, another indication of Eris. But who knows!

I am in Boston--would be interested in getting together if you are in my neck of the woods.

Yes indeed. I also think the discovery of the planet Eris might be helping things along.

Everything in Western astrology progresses through the zodiac in the same way--Aries through Pisces. Except for one thing--the wobble of the earth's axis. The earth's axis is slowly wobbling backwards through the zodiac. Each "Age" of the earth is the time the earth's axis spends in each sign, and takes about 2000 years. We are leaving the Age of Pisces and entering the Age of Aquarius. I think we already have, to be frank. Don't believe people who say it's going to be all wonderful. Pisces is the sign of compassion and spirituality and mysticism and gentleness, and it didn't stop two world wars and all the other frightful things that have happened in the last two millenia. Also Aquarius isn't just the sign of brotherly love. It's also the sign of revolutions and violent extreme change. Mankind has a choice, as always in astrology. We can work together in brotherly love or we can face the earth's violent, extreme change which will lead to violent upheavals worldwide. Aquarius is also the sign of kundalini or chi or whatever you want to call it--the sexual energy that rises in the body. Also the sign of electricity and science and kinkiness and bisexuality. It's the shocking sign. The Age of Aries produced the Roman Empire, the Age of Pisces was ruled by Christianity (the Fish), it will be interesting to see what will happen now. Clearly the Internet is an Aquarian thing. Aquarius is also the sign of the astrologer, and here at the beginning of this Age, the zodiac is now complete, all twelve planets have been discovered (counting the Sun and Moon). Probably a lengthier answer than you wanted! I am nothing if not long-winded!

That's what I told him too--barefoot on dirt I just bought the book. Any chance he will be coming to the East Coast?

One thing I know I can definitely do is ground you. If you are still having difficulty, PM me and I'll give you my phone number.

I don't think my third eye was opened by my own energy, I think it was opened by someone else's energy. Of course that could very well be imaginary, some kind of tulpa I created on my own, but it was outside of me, horned, and male. And the CCO I had was from that energy going up instead of back, because I was sitting up. I haven't wanted to talk about that because not only does it sound insane, it's the sort of thing not too long ago that got women into a world of trouble. In any case, with the amount of energy I pour out every day, it stands to reason it is returned to me in some way. I think in the same way I can pop the cherry of men with open hearts, by the strength of my heart chakra outpouring, someone popped my sixth chakra--because it doesn't feel like an eye, it feels like a vagina. Although I do now have some of those "third eye" abilities, being able to see and understand things I didn't before.

Two weeks is enough!

That's hard to say, then. First off, I will say I don't think vaginal orgasms are required to have this heart chakra outpouring ability. That's just the easy, natural way. I assume there is some sort of mechanism for women to push energy up, in a sort of masculine way, generating the energy simply by refraining from clitoral orgasm. I don't know. Of course your question is not the techniques of developing this ability for heart outpourings, but whether a woman who can do this is enlightened. More specifically it would mean that I am enlightened, as I had six heart chakra orgasms just today (last one was shooting blanks). Tom Robbins wrote in a letter that I was halfway to enlightenment, but that was a few years ago. I'm not sure you would recognize him as an authority! I feel quite ridiculous talking about this, but in my personal experience I believe these bodily sensations are merely reactions of the nervous system, and enlightenment would involve the long-term effect of experiencing them, not just the immediate sensation. I will say for certain my third eye has opened. I am also quite sure I had a CCO, and the aftermath of heart chakra orgasms is very different. I would say in my case it has made me more hot-tempered and wicked, rather than enlightened. In my own personal experience it has been an endarkenment, like Persephone being taken to the Underworld by Hades. I can see the very roots of myself, and all of my own wickedness. It's very good. It's a deep, dark thing.

My take on it is that there isn't really a "mechanism" to it. I don't think it comes naturally to men to push their energy up, it's natural for them to ejaculate. Women don't ejaculate, for the most part, so if a woman is having lots of vaginal orgasms the energy naturally builds and rises there. I'd say the only tricky thing is opening up and surrendering to it in the first place. It's overwhelming and initially can be rather frightening. In my case it is absolutely necessary to have a sex object. I've never had one of these without focusing, thinking of a man I am pouring my energy out to. I don't know if that's universal or not. Doesn't have to be a man I know, helps if the man seems to have an open heart.

I know I keep sticking my nose in, but witches have a typical grounding practice after ritual--cakes and ale! Heavy starchy food with fat in it will help--oatmeal is good. Oatmeal cookies are very good! Also standing barefoot outside on earth. Black onyx held in left hand, take off any silver jewelry. And I've said this before--if you can, cut back on the tea

Hmm. I'm not sure that fits into my view of things. I think this sexual practice whether done with difficulty alone, or more easily with a partner will bring enlightenment to men and endarkenment to women, so there is a balance for both genders. My main goal in my own personal practice is balance, not really evolution. That sexual practice brings a balance of male and female. But I think my closest belief to your idea of spiritual evolution is following the North Node of a person's natal chart. So it really doesn't have anything to do with cultivation or sex at all, except maybe coincidentally, depending on where the North Node falls. If a person focuses their energy on working on their North Node, then the rest of their chart falls into balance. Astrologers who believe in reincarnation do believe that this results in spiritual evolution, that the next life will be a step up. I'm personally agnostic about reincarnation and focus on this life. Life is just better when it's in balance, and I've found this practice bring that balance. If you really want to follow the hard path to wisdom, that path is held by Saturn. However, unlike the North Node, following Saturn is the wrong path for a lot of people. But it will certainly make you deep! Here's more on North Node/South Node stuff Cafe Astrology

Well I looked both up, the Tree of Life and that astrology link, and here's where my colossal ego is--they're both wrong. The sex planets are the planets ruling the cardinal and fixed signs. The cardinal signs send out energy and the fixed signs receive energy and transform them, except for the planet ruling the cardinal earth sign, Saturn, which generates the energy, and the fixed air sign (governing kundalini) ruler Uranus, which receives the energy and releases into the cosmos if too much. Thanks for the offer, but I'm a witch so I'm all set in the tarot department! I guess the point I'm trying to make in all of this is that sure, we all have all planets in our charts, and for example I could probably receive heart energy from a woman through the action of my Sun, but it would be unnatural and very hard work for me. Likewise, the starting point for energy is naturally a woman, the base chakra energy generation is VERY easy and natural for a woman who is eating right, in particular getting enough omega-3 fatty acids, and in good health with good PC muscle tone. So let's say a woman has, easily and naturally like breathing, a few dozen of these PC-muscle-flexing orgasms. That activity creates an intense, desperately strong need in the second chakra. This need elicits a very strong response in the matching male second chakra. Now what should happen at this point, and generally doesn't, also I believe due to dietary imbalance, is that a man fully drained of his energy should then have an opening of the heart, a hunger. This Sun hunger, a needing for that fiercely loving female energy, easily elicits a rising up and outpouring of female sexual energy through the heart chakra. When a woman has emptied out all her energy in this way, she gains a hunger in the third eye for male energy. She needs the two horns of male sixth chakra energy intersecting and penetrating through her third eye back to her amygdalae (I think that's the goal). Et cetera! And that's why I think it's faster to get the energy up and moving with two people than one person doing it on his own. They can, of course. I just think doing this sexually makes it a hundred times easier. Sort of the difference between a guy trying to masturbate thinking about doing laundry and paying bills or trying to masturbate watching really raunchy porn. The first guy, if he's horny enough, can do it. But why work that hard?

To further go into my own peculiar way of looking at things, I like this guy Kooky goofy taoist sex guy Except I don't agree with the non-ejaculation thing--two weeks is enough! And he's all about the CCO sex as being the ultimate and I honestly think that's a guy thing, and sophisticated wankery and that's why all the tantric goddesses are so damn mad all the time! My pet theory that I keep longwindedly explaining to anyone who sits still--it's all about the 8. Sign of infinity, lovers' knot. Why the number 8 when there are five sex chakras? I think there are eight sex aspects. Base chakra generates the energy, crown chakra is an escape valve when too much energy builds up in the skull. But the general idea isn't a straight up and down thingie that you are talking about--that's a bad luck dragon. A good luck dragon has curves, like an 8. So base and crown, and then the man gives energy to the woman through the second chakra, woman gives it back going up through the heart (she sends seminal energy up) man gives back through the third eye, woman gives back forehead energy through the heart going down in a grounding way. Saturn--base chakra Mars--male second chakra Venus--female second chakra Moon--female fourth chakra Sun-male fourth chakra Eris--male sixth chakra Pluto--female sixth chakra Uranus--crown chakra Eight planets, eight houses, in perfect balance. I guess that leaves the third and fifth chakras to the mutable planets. But they don't really fit. I'll figure it out eventually!

Oh for goodness sakes--we aren't saying you are wrong (at least about men) just awfully solemn! Here, I found this for you, took me long enough. Seems full of arcane jargon! The pertinent part is in the middle of the text, on women The Shadow of the Dalai Lama And may I point out it says exactly what I've been saying all along has been my experience! Except I usually ejaculate it instead of sending it downstairs again.

I'm just crazy, don't mind me!

Oh fuck it all. "Disarmed" is right. I'm just Pisces rising, can't transmit, only receive. I've got a job! EDT, 7:00 pm I'll be home, please hold off until then. If you are reading this, and I think you are.

I am disarmed. I hadn't read this before. So he's all right then. Now I want to check him out myself. Although why on earth are his women teachers letting him go around buzzing like that? Hmm....

Oh yes, I know most of other women here can do what I do! That's partly why I'm here. I'm so very, very tired of having to be public about my abilities to publicize my book and being treated like a freak. I meant in general women have no clue. There was one women's magazine where the entire editorial staff doubted that vaginal orgasms even existed. They didn't know what they were, had never experienced one. So I can't really jump in and start talking about all these strange mystical sexual experiences to the world at large! I did mention them briefly in my book, with reassurances to women so they wouldn't get scared if it started happening to them and resources to learn more. Anyhow, that's all over with now, thank goodness, and I don't have to be in the public eye anymore. Do you know the taoist lingo for all of this, to explain to xenolith? Although he's probably gone now. Also of course I'd be very interested to know what would happen to a woman already where I am who tried out the diet. Probably nothing extra, but I'm still curious!

All right, I guess I just want to apologize to the board for being so fratchety, and an explanation why. I came at all of this ass-backwards; I accidentally got the physical effects without being under a master or following a path or anything. So while I know my body and what's happening to it very well, I don't know the lingo and the philosophy is very alien to me. Trunk, if that is so, then the men here should all go on my diet. I will put a link The Orgasmic Diet I don't talk about this too much because of course it freaks most people out, but my diet most definitely increases a man's capacity for prostate orgasms in the exact same way it increases a woman's capacity for vaginal orgasms. It also helps clitoral orgasms simply from the very high libido and improved genital circulation, but the phenomenal thing is the vaginal orgasms. I can have a vaginal orgasm simply from flexing my PC muscles for ten seconds. With a twenty-second refractory period, I can just keep having them twice a minute indefinitely. Unlike the more satisfying cul de sac orgasms with something long and hard inside me, these spontaneous ones don't really have an end. And that's why when women look at me like I have two heads, I tell them, "You spend five years having fifty orgasms a day, every day, sometimes LOTS more, and gain the ability to be continuously orgasmic for hours at will, no hands, no toys, just flexing, and THEN tell me I'm nuts." And VeeCee, that's the thing. When I'm talking about "energy" I'm talking about something really specific. The body has all sorts of energy, the energy to get up and start the day, the energy to fight off sickness, the energy to fight, the energy to have sex. This isn't even the last one, it's not the same as horniness. This energy is a product of horniness, it's after I have all the orgasms that I have this energy. And I seriously get the female equivalent of blue balls at my heart if I don't either ejaculate it or do something else with the energy, like send it back down and have G-spot ejaculation orgasms. It would be nice to have a word for it, but what's the sense of having a word if people haven't experienced what the word means?

To keep from veering Cam's journal any worse, I brought Vee Cee's question of yin and yang energy over here. I grabbed that terminology for my own, I'm probably using it wrong. Of course we all have yin and yang qualities within us, but when I was using the term 'yin energy' I was referring to the realization I had this morning that pulling my energy up from my base chakra to my fourth chakra changed the type of energy it was, and unlike base chakra energy it couldn't be easily taken from me by someone needing energy. Since I assume this process of changing energy into a type of energy for ejaculation from the chest is a particularly feminine type of transmutation, I picked the term "yin energy." In that sense, I can't really have any yang energy, because that would be energy drawn up from the Heck, I don't even know where men draw it up from. I assume the testicles, but the testicles are the second chakra and that corresponds with the ovaries in women. My energy comes from G-spot and cul de sac orgasms, and G-spot orgasms correspond to prostate orgasms in men. But men here don't talk about their BC muscles or their prostate; it's all about the balls and not ejaculating. So clearly I don't know what the heck I'm talking about.

I think xenolith was wanting an explanation in the taoist language he is used to thinking in. I can't do that for him, can you? And of course he's familiar with the sensation of kundalini rising. I think he was particularly interested in a taoist explanation for why in women the heart chakra outpouring is more important than the crown chakra, the difference between the sexes. I am in agreement with him about surprise at the lack of discussion about the crown chakra orgasm here. As far as I know, almost all the men here cultivate. Although personally I am pleased to find that the very sensible focus on the sixth chakra in men seems to be the consensus here! Is there another board he can go to that is more Chia-focused?

I sense that we are veering xeno's thread Poetic free verse piffle does bring joy But thinking back to what the good man said I do believe it only will annoy He likes his threads on topic and quite neat Despite his penchant for belabored prose His lessons do have CCO nutmeat He flowered in the patient path he chose Like-minded men will find this thread and learn That quiet steady work can bring rewards Enlightenment and health and love in turn Despite a staidness shunned by messageboards Yet lighten with enlightenment and see You'll snare more seekers with some levity