Perceiver

"Nothing" can not exist. It is inherent to the word. If it is "nothing", then it can not "be". Only "something" can exist. "Something" must by definition always have existed, because "nothing" could not exist before it. And the "something" is by necessity oblivious to its own cause, as the knowledge of one's cause would indicate an ever new "something" before the "something". We live in the mystery that is. The paradox of spirit. Ain't it the coolest thing in the world?

Or maybe they realize that suffering is sometimes necessary in order for better things to emerge? That's at least one of my theories.

I'm not sure it would render it meaningless? Just because something is infinite doesn't mean that levels within it cannot be discerned?.. My idea is the following: If spirit is eternal and infinite wouldn't spiritual evolution also per definition be infinite? Or can a "co-creational holon of spirit" get to an endpoint and say "ok, so this is the end of the line, now I'm just gonna kick back and watch and help others evolve". I don't know.. I think spiritual evolution might by necessity be eternal. After all infinity is inscribed into the fabric of reality. Anything that can be built or created can be improved, made more complex. There is seemingly no end to what can manifest in reality. So spiritual evolution - wisdom about the manifest - may be infinite and eternal too?

No I wouldn't say so . My post was in response to Songtsan's question; "why doesn't the Dalai Lama write on forums?" Well he doesn't, but he does write books and thereby makes his wisdom accessible for the masses.

It would help if you tell us what has happened? My world has crashed a couple of times, yet each time I have - after some time - been able to understand why it happened, and have grown personally and spiritually from it.

By necessity, wouldn't spiritual evolution per definition be infinite, eternal? No end level.

The Dalai Lama has written several books where he shares his wisdom.

Life is ferocious. It requires courage.

I don't know what mooninite is talking about, but i've met many people who have been mowed down by an accidentally released kundalini. No reason not to do exercises that help with a more harmonious energy flow, IMO.

If everyone spent all of their time helping others then none would suffer. But none would realize their dreams either, or have a truly fulfilling life. We would all live an existence of grey dullness; surviving with our stomachs full but our hearts empty. Some selfishness is needed in order for the world to thrive and grow.

Russell brand seems like a nice guy, but his political ideas are not very complex. There are other people on the left wing that i'd rather listen to than him. He gets points for going against the career nature of politics though.

Well I actually don't know where you can find a simple explanation of the orbit online. I learned it directly from a teacher. You could try some of the practices online, but if they don't work feel free to PM me. I know all about how irritating kundalini can be so I would be willing to show you the exercise on Skype (for free of course)

I did mixed martial arts for some time, and I met many nice and intelligent young people with interesting personalities. I met people from the working class as well as upper-class kids. Tough guys with tattoos and shaved heads and anarchist guys with long hair who talked about duality and other "strange" stuff. Some of the professional fighters were incredibly nice guys: People who seemed rich on life, rich on personality. I grew immensely; personally and spiritually from my training. It's a frightening experience; putting and gloves and sparring with a guy who is much bigger than you. Dancing around on the mat, trading punches while trying to suppress your fear. After some months, the fear was not there anymore. At least not in the same way. And when new and bigger guys came in I would greet them in a friendly way, and then completely outgame them when we grappled. It's hard to describe exactly how I changed, but I know I did and I wouldn't change it for anything in the world. Doing martial arts, and experiencing the personal growth that comes with it, can be such a rewarding spiritual experience.

This was a problem for me too when I accidentally released my kundalini. I had so much energy I couldn't sleep. When it got stuck in the chest it could really produce annoying chest pains. I've done some things that have greatly helped. It has reduced my side effects with 90%, if not more. There are three exercises I would recommend you: 1) The microcosmic orbit This one is a life-saver. It will teach you to make the energy go in a loop in your body (so the energy doesn't get stuck) and you will learn to ground the energy in the lower belly in the end. It's the most important kundalini exercise I've done and I still do it daily. It takes about 20-30 mins. Do it slowly, and focus on grounding in the end. Took about a week for me to feel the full effect. 2) Standing in stillness practices Work great for grounding energy into the earth or out your head. Can be done in 2-3 mins. 3) Pan-gu (Michael Winn) Integrates yin-yang and reduces most major polarity issues. Can be done in 5-6 minutes. These are the ones I would recommend you, and in that order of importance: The orbit is the most important one I'd say.

I watched the first six minutes of that interview, and I got the impression of a guy with an ego. A guy who is focused on letting us know how special he was as a kid, how New York "wuz real tough" and perhaps how he himself is "real tough". Look at his facial expression while he speaks. Hypermasculinity. I can't say whether it's objectively true though. It's just the vibe I'm getting.

I hear what you say, Maldor. I'm a highly skeptical person too. There's a book I would like to recommend you. It's called "A Brief History of Everything" by Ken Wilber. I think you'll find it valuable at this point in your life.

Maldor, I believe you experienced a spiritual awakening. You can google the side effects to see if it's true. I went through something similar back in August of last year. I was at an utter low in my life, left without a voice for several years, and watching the summer go by while stewing in my apartment being unable to speak. It got to the point where for several weeks I thought about dying. Not because I wanted to kill myself, but because dying just seemed like a nice thing. Being 30+ years old, single and without a voice for several years fucking sucks. Then one day the rug was pulled from under my feet. I was sitting at my table, eating a sandwich, and all of a sudden I had a visualization about myself as an old man, lying on my deathbed with my children and wife around me. I watched myself die, and go into the last mystery of life (death) as a happy man. The second the visualization was over a wave of complete awe washed over me, and for several minutes I just sat there and gasped in awe, tears running down my cheeks. Once that was done, a chuckle started that soon turned into a laughter. I was laughing myself silly for several minutes for "no reason". The second that was over, I had a single thought where I reviewed all of my life, all the things leading up to this one point and thought "fantastic". When that was done, a natural smile came upon my face, and for the next three days I was in an extreme state. I felt everything that happened was perfect. I felt like I moved, thought and acted with absolute perfection. I was infinitely interested in every little thing that existed. Every person, boring TV-show or mundane activity had something captivating about itself. I felt that every person was exactly like he or she could be, and that they were perfect in their imperfection. I had enormous creativity and had to walk around with a notepad all the time because I got so many ideas. It only lasted three days, and then it went away. A few months later, I would regain my voice though and got back into life. Something for which I'm very grateful. I beat myself up over its demise too. Why did it go away, what can I do to get it back? Well, as you probably already know there's nothing you really can do to get it back. It will return if and when it wants to, and when you're ready. What I've done is to simply have a relaxed mindset about it all, and follow a spiritual path and practice. I train in Michael Winn's system, I do introspective activities and I pursue my goals in life with as much honesty as I can. Then spiritual progress should come by itself I'd say. Best of luck

If DeciBelle doesn't bully people then I don't have a problem with her coming back. But I don't think she can stop. To me she seemed to be the kind of person who bullies and belittles other people in order to fill a hole inside of herself. But that hole can never be filled from anything external, so she's unlikely to stop. When I started calling her out there were several people PM'ing me and thanking me for what I did. She's gonna make several people in here frustrated and sad if she returns, and that's more than enough reason to keep her out. Negative karmic footprints you know.

All people who do violence believe themselves to be justified at some level. Especially when they have to explain their motivation afterwards. Even killers try to justify their murders at some level: "I was frustrated, I had a bad childhood, I was unable to control myself". You'll rarely hear someone saying that they killed out of joy or bloodlust alone. In my opinion there are two stupid ways to treat criminals: One is to believe in righteous vengeance against them, typically in the form of cruel punishments. This is the kind of system that prevailed in the past, and still does in some countries today. The other is to see the criminal as the *main* victim - at the expense of the actual victim. And at the expense of society at large. This is in my opinion the kind of system that prevails in Europe today, where predator rapists are released after 2-3 years in jail, and then continue their violent raping spree. We just had a recent example of that. And as a result, these criminals end up causing more unphappiness than their own life could ever contribute with to society in terms of happiness. Their life's "happiness scorecard" is at minus 100 or more, and still we allow them to continue.

Well point taken, and I'm sorry if I was a bit too confrontational in my earlier post. That was uncalled for. We're after all just sharing opinions here. I acknowledge that there are certainly people who profit from this, and some of these might be state-employed, and part of a formal government apparatus. The private companies certainly profit from it: I work in a private company and I can tell from personal experience that a corporate structure seems only to have an eye for itself and nothing else. It's not necessarily that the people in a company are "bad" - it's just that they're afraid of what their manager might say if they don't always do what's good for the profit of the company. So in the end, the profits are always pursued and everything else is secondary. What I don't believe is that a new administration has a deliberate intent to keep as many people in prison as possible in order to profit from them. We might agree here.

Well I can't say for sure whether they exist or not - or if they have any impact on us. But man has been violent and sex-focused all of history, even before the illuminati could have existed. Original tribes at the dawn of man were engaged in nearly perpetual warfare - often with the aim of taking sex slaves. There was no illuminati influencing them, just as there were no illuminati influencing the vikings, medieval Arabs, Africans and all the other peoples who pillaged, warred, took slaves and so on. That tells me that these drives are part of human nature, and are not created by society or the illuminati.

I would advise you to question your views of society where government *deliberately* imprisons people to create a cheap pool of labor. You don't *know* why government does what it does, and neither do I. None of us can look inside these people's heads. But ask yourself this question: Do you honestly believe that guys like Obama and Clinton are sitting in their chairs smirking over the number of prisoners and saluting each other on the cheap pool of labor they've created? I find that very unlikely. There are some people who always believe that the government is a malicious cabal of self-centred people who deliberately "enslave" the population for the benefit of "evil" companies and so on. It's the worldview with the maturity of a teenage cartoon, sorry to say. I've met several politicians and I've seen some of them rise in the ranks. They are nice people just like you and I. But when they get involved in politics they also get involved in a system where they can't speak their mind freely and where every decision has to be discussed and decided among sometimes hundreds of people. I think our prison system looks the way it does because that's how it has been historically and because radically changing it means a great deal of rethinking, which means a lot of work. Any government is short-term focused because politicians are overly stressed people with busy schedules. They've got lots of meetings and probably little energy to think long-term. As a result, they most only do quick-fixes of the most pressing things, and let other things be as they are. I think that's a much more credible explanation than to believe that every government out there is a secret cabal of ill-minded people who live only to squeeze the last bit of juice out of their hapless subjects. Wouldn't you agree?

Songtsan, do you really believe that there is a secret cabal of "malicious" people who engineer society to be sexualized so they can create "mindless slaves"? Conspiracy theory much? How about the need for sex as part of basic human nature? Seems more credible to me.

I'm just tuning in to this thread here to say that "Dragon Roargasm" is the best fucking name I ever heard . Go for it mate (poster above^)

All paradoxes are of an infinite nature. They have to be. With non-duality they however cease to confuse you.