narveen

sounds like you are man # 1, the guy who likes being who he is. the women like you the men like you so, why are you here in a forum of men # 3?

you mean to say that you let the wrong person into your life? or were you making up stuff about women being awful and turning into yoda?

they are always the right person until they become the wrong person how many right persons have you run through by now?

it's really depressing. all these money-saving tips. what's the point to being alive?

sooner or later, one runs into a relationship because there is an aversion to being alone you need someone to enjoy your black beans with it's unfortunate that they muck up your bathroom with their stuff

you don't like the cheap clothes and beater car?

are friends even necessary? for what? if one needs a chat one goes to the internet where one has absolute control of the conversation without getting punch in the face do you live in total isolation? relationship-wise, i mean

yup. your tips on saving money are great what are your tips on coping with life living among awful people?

good stuff, pie you should put it all in a book to cause the next economic recession

you message seems to imply that one shouldn't try to turn a prostitute into a wife. maybe we should look at women differently not as living companions, married or not. women are wonderful creatures for falling in love with from 16 till 20 before they turn

what kind of women are they? too tough may not be good

if a spiritual awakening bringing security amounts to coming to terms with one's situation, then non-attachment, equanimity and fearlessness imply being stuck, inner turmoil and fear. i think being stuck is the root problem becoming unstuck could be an impossibility if the situation has become intractable one can be stuck to people, places and things i don't think getting unstuck can be thought out if you have to figure a way to become unstuck then it's a trap. what do you think?

no problem. actually, they don't need any income for living a great life income is anything coming to you from your capital gains, director's fees, paychecks to pennies found in the streets just to please the 99%, they could get hired at 34,000 a year as kitchen help in any of their company's executive cafeteria with no change to their existing lifestyle without breaking any tax laws.

what about gangsters? are you not concerned about the mafia? from organized crimes all over the usa to inner-city street thuggery. we could wipe out drugs, prostitution, anything that is perceived as bad for the usa the nsa could watch over the country the way mods run this forum and keep america squeaky clean

ok, i will cut to the chase. is it possible to get that security through a spiritual awakening? i am not talking about being a spiritual hack or mesmerizing a flock of human sheep and living off of them this is plan b if the path one tread leads to perdition this is why it is important to get it right. yes, i believe that the right way protects the income is there without the guarantee but you feel protected and the money is there no cheating, no stealing, not even having to lose one's dignity if this is not so then the path is pointless.

what about a bicycle? that should cut a lot of expenses on transportation.

i like your attitude. have you any idea what is the point to living your life?

affection has nothing to do with sex which has its place in life for man # 1 who is in prison and doesn't realize it and so he does his beautiful thing (or so he is led to believe) that moves him to a higher level of incarceration for every child he brings into the world until he lands himself in supermax with a wife and two kids to support sex that has nothing to do with reproductive biology is fornication only apes can do this beautiful thing without paying wife and child support

it has not. we are still on topic. the fall of the usa is due to americans who cannot think straight. i am trying to straighten things out with you to prevent that fall you still have not told me where you are from if you are not from the usa then this conversation with you is off topic.

you can't? (i'm not really asking. you don't have to say anything) well, i am glad you didn't i was told by an old fella once that as long as a man can shuffle one foot ahead of the other to walk he would go for the women. we are on topic this is # 3 talking to # 1 about life in the prison yes, sex without affection is a downer but there comes a time, for a man when sex no longer becomes him and yet, it is precisely at that time in his life that he rises to the occasion to make a fool of himself as they say, there is no fool like an old fool as you watch him with a sweet young thing on his arm walking down the street the older and uglier he is the more desirable to the drop-dead beautiful predators on high heels sex is over for man # 3 at the onset of spiritual wakening as the case was with guatama when he gave up domestic life to look for the deathless state he was 30 years old i am 35

i am unemployed too by choice, two years ago to tread the path. i am looking for liberation but not of the spiritual kind i want to be free, completely from conventional life the need for money to live in necessary even at the basic level without personal relationships of any kind no partners to care for, no kids to raise it is this need for money, no matter how little, that binds one to a conventional life even living in the forest to forage does not bring liberation for it is still a conventional existence therefore, it is not money that binds it is the need for money that enslaves it is the need to stay alive that is the problem what do you say?

i am not a day-trader. i don't have a job even. why is it sad, rene? i have been sharing with you from my heart i wish you would continue our discussion on a manifesto for building a new america without the bull.

ok, so some guy called darwin said that we are apes and all animals come from common ancestors a million years ago. this claim is so definitive and conclusive to you that you are willing to swallow it as a truth about life. meanwhile, we have neuro-scientists telling us today that we really don't know much about the human brain. and your doctor tells you that medical science has not figured out yet how to cure the common cold. do you think that the difference between a guy who makes it in life as ceo of a fortune 500 company and a sad sack eating out of a trash bin is luck? you don't have to be a ceo, my friend but please don't push your luck. well, if i have to choose which fairy tale to swallow, i would rather not pick the one that makes me an ape. no, that doesn't make me an expert on fairy tales. but a grounding in the fundamentals of the physical sciences enables me to take climate change claims apart and tell the difference between probable outcomes that merit public concern and wild speculations calculated to make al gore a hundred million dollars. ok

i do have an education. not that it matters for conversations, such as these, among people totally disengaged from reality.

yes, i have because both are controversies and either one has scientists supporting it. not that i agree with any of them what research? show me. i have two degrees in engineering and will not be wasting your time if you offer your research material for my review and discussion.