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"I am going to attempt to force" Okeydokey... I dunno what is, going on. But whatever's going on, it's, um, going on there (given the time/space non-differential whatsoever). Thing. Which, by-god, is not "a thing". Hopefully someone, somewhere gets it :-) Whoever his-face - I think it was a "his-face" was on here at one point who suggested - my paraphrase and frustrated effort to ask: "what if everything you ever questioned was already answered?" All the while knowing that was an old GIH question that I've just been dying to ask! And he both asked and answered it all on his own. And I say it doesn't matter a dime until I know it for myself. Ironically, it's an "old" question. As old as the world :-)

Sounds to me like your muscles are releasing a bunch of stored tension. I know that what i sometimes mistake for too much energy is just lots of micro muscle discharges/spasms and I only notice because I've trained myself into high sensitivity via qi-gong and emptiness meditation. Yes it is indeed unpleasant. Look also at your magnesium and phosphorus intake. If you weren't hydrated then I believe the kidneys will start doing stuff related to that. Our TCM friends know more about it.

Mental trick:-) Doesn't work because you had to write it down therefore negating the very concept (or something ;-) sorry I'm not very good at buddhist rhetoric :-) How do you explain physical transformation (another marker of "Time") and the fact you were born to a mother... Or did you just invent yourself out of thin air...woohoo a real "Virgin birth" IMO there's a big difference between what we say about this stuff and the way things are. It's not all about interpretation all the time (pardon the pun) I know the quantum people have spawned lots of ideas that it's only ever about what we perceive (the whole "collapsing" reality deal) but I don't think it's that simple. Or if it is that simple then that reality must be shared to a huge degree in order to collapse it...

Yes Mr MH, but I'm trying ( otherwise why practice ???) Plus those Taoists seem to suggest it's doable, otherwise they wouldn't "still" be here blathering on about it. They ( or we, or me) would have laid the issue to rest!

i reckon internal qi-gong is a big (ish) part of this :-) Edited to add Edited for "pop and drop" hahhahha

No MH, i LOVE this person. Being an Angry Taoist Pseudo Angry Chinese Angry White Dude (forgets with the "Caucasion" sp? -thing) kind of sorta means this person is an "every-person" - like the "everyman" of old British Angry White Men Dudes ilk. And those people really believed in themselves, whereas our friend Angry Dude, White and Taoist Angry, Dude, obviously DOESN'T. Nothing here for you to learn master Peace, peace, shanti, shanti

Heart-bomb dude. Not sure if that was good or not.

Yes Lucky, That would be nice :-) However I'm not living in a cave, nor on a mountain, nor in a wuvly bubble :-)

Yep, I'd tend to agree with Master Ralis:-) Hence the conscious efforts to cultivate mindfulness and decent boundaries. Even the sea meets a shoreline:-) I don't intend to go into "healing arts" and I don't have 3 hours per day to redo after dealing with the huge amounts of energy sucking and crappy intent that our culture seems to foster. I don't intend to go into hermitage nor live in a cave. In the world and not of it mate.

Yes Lucky7, you're IMO (and IME) spot on. Which is why it's IMO very very important to let people know what they're getting when they get into ANY system. I realise this might seem a bit "soft" of me to suggest and I know there seems to be a heavy religious/mythological bent on going through hell, enduring suffering, all that. But I don't believe it has to be that hardcore.

"illegal"???? Just for that, I'll say late 19th to early 20th century. Seriously, "illegal"??

Well, technically Mal, you realise that "you" are not immortal at all BUT, that you are and you're both of the latter, at the same time. But "you're" not a driveway nor a cat nor a backyard. Not that I'll use the condensed milk analogy again, but I'll use the condensed milk analogy again I'm not sure this line of thinking changes my actions though...which is really silly. I guess I ought to, but... Edited: typos, sorry!

Very cool. I'm all for dispelling myths "Open Source Code. Use what works and let go what doesn't." You have my vote on that one. "I have no idea why people think MCO or sacral pumps are kundalini.You mentioning it is the first time I heard that." I'll take a guess that MCO might be the first experience many people (ever?) have of the effects of awareness on something "physical" that seems outside their usual run of conscious awareness. And really, just because MCO is the most common internal exercise that is taught to people. Although if you ask the women, they might come back with some rather obvious answers I mean (mostly) when you move a limb, it hardly suprises you that all that happens at all! But moving what initially might seem to be a single mass of "flesh" - well! I can't speak to the sacral/cranial pumps thing. Because I don't know what they are. What are they? See, here's the dumb thing, internal exercises just aren't commonly talked about. if you go to any serious yoga school, hell, any serious horse-riding school, all that stuff gets discussed. It doesn't mean IMO that you no longer need teachers

No:-) But I wish you the very best in doing one :-)

You put conditions on my "immortality". I didn't know it came with a catch, dude. I already "feel all the pain and hunger. All the fear and anger." It's enough to make me want to die. However, seems there's also some other stuff goin down (don't make me post the video ) So I guess I'm hanging around for the latter. Yo man, no more lounge! So have to post it here And here

I have some somewhere. I can't seem to eat it without it being, too much. I get nervous, it's not cool

Hey Rob! Ask Susan, she trained with him. I'll admit to having him in my heart and mind quite often. But not enough, as I seem to forget him quite frequently. As is Santi. Susan is a welcome person recently. As are ToaMeow, Hundun, Ben and Ralis. Not very orthodox, any of them, but I enjoy their presence. As I enjoy many other presences here on TTB's. Jeez it's packed with so many high-level people, it's insane

That's so flattering, I'm tempted to go for it and admit I was born both glamourous and mystical. But unfortuntately no-one recognized me, neither by glamour, nor mystique. Or maybe they did, and that's why my life till now has been pretty hellish. Meh. I've heard this stuff before. Where's that X-files poster :-)? No offense to either Phore or Susan. It's myself I don't believe in

I love you man

Blasto dude, yer a blast Make sure you get to Canada before...ahhhh too late :-p As far as I've read/figured/practiced/whatever'd. There is NO "second" or "third" or "4th" mind whatsoever. The entire body is a neuro-network :-) I guess the one "one" might call "mind" is the one one might listen to the most :-) Personally, I'm practicing listening to my gut. (that could/might be LDT) But IME, my gut also likes the input from my heart and my so-called "rational" brain - of which I recently dicovered there are not one but TWO hemispheres, plus the deeper mid-brain and the lizard-brain and the mirror-neurons and the...do you see where I'm going with this??? Exactly nowhere.

"Have you ever been a subject of a witchhunt? We have crazy people who follow us around the internet posting weird and out of context stories about us. Some of them happen to be Bum members. Also, there are a lot of the unseen who don't like that we make this knowledge available. Self sacrifice and self preservation have to reach a balance." I'll admit to keeping clear of witchhunts. I don't hang with the MA crowd neither. Internet is full of weirder sh*t than one can imagine. I include the bums,plus myself in that. Their respective calls if they wish to go elsewhere and post a bunch of stuff. IMO. There was a neat post on here a while back about "context being everything". My take is that it is, until it's not. I don't know who "the unseen" are. I meet "the unseen" in myself quite often. Nothing weird - IMO and IME about that - it's IMO the biggest elephant in the room -our imagination and the rest ) As for other "unseen", I don't know any (so far) If I knew, I would tell everyone

Do I? I guess if I had wanted it there I would have put some in. You wouldn't be trying to square my circle, huh? Besides, the argument about language is possibly best illustrated by the fact I'm rambling:-) Now what having lots of cash and an awesome car means... Well I think that's very important. In one sense I know it's pointless, but I still want it (albeit in a different form with a different name :-))

Oh. I don't think there's anything wrong with you! "I don't let them run freely" I do, every day. During practice set aside for just that. "But to put our feet on the path and be willing for those neuroses to be lessened by willful attempts is a thing of desirability, to my way of thinking." There's a thread running on supression and control right now. My personal tactic (for now) is to disassociate the moments at which certain things come into play. So there's less "supression" involved. So my "will" is not being used against myself, if you get my drift?