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Now Mr MH, stop playing with the noobs, will you:-)

Yey! Mr DH is back:-) Nice to see!

What answers did they give you? I reckon the general consensus from all I've read, from exchanges here and a bit of personal experience is that one should keep it from accumulating in the head (although there seem to be practices "for later" that put the head back in.) I personally found MCO of great help when anything was accumulating anywhere. Just spin it out. Also out the feet. As far as I can tell from folks here, accumulating it in LDT is both safe and builds it to where it can do stuff. I can't do stuff and I don't accumulate. Wishing you well!

What I find interesting is the way people seem to believe anything that sounds logical whether or not it actually has any basis in reality. It's as if given an internally consistent argument you almost have to agree. What I'm suprised about when it comes to some of the ideas in this thread on this forum in particular is that they are coming from people with what seems to me to be very high levels of insight into reality and self and all that. They've done all this work on themselves and yet will go into a debate with preconceived ideas that they'll then attempt to prove. Oh, wait, yes that's the objective of debate. Sorry! Anyway i thought practice was the counter-weight to that tendency we know we have to want to confirm our biases. We know it's a liability and that is why we practice, right?

I read something somewhere online about FL bringing about its special effects due to pressure on the tail-bone. It's like that eye/heart link where your heart will automatically slow down if you put pressure on your eyelids, apparently. Seems I'm not FL material yet:-)

Thanks Mr Bob. I'm not sure it helps exactly. It also made things seem scarier than they are in practice. I also don't consider that being able to trip yourself out on near-death experience at will is proof of transcendent consciousness as it's still a subjective experience (and I can't do it willingly) There have to be observable "things" out there that would constitute proof.

Yes I liked that idea of owning up. The idea about stages is a really interesting one too. I have an idea about resolution as well, but I suppose it could be seen through the lens of completion of "what's required" to get to the next step. Reckon our fear of aging is the realization that we will not actually have lived to adulthood? Not actually a fear of death.

Right, and ain't that the point? (of practice:-)) @HJNT i think that being 11 forever is awesome for science and all kinds of stuff:-) I was going to do a post about the outer changes of dreaming. I thought about it. Then I thought that people wouldn't go for it. Too childish to dream (or weird, or insane:-)) and yet, there it is:-) I think there's a reason for ceremonies for adulthood. I think they change the nature of one's dreams. The dreams were pretty much same old same old, just their portent is different. As a child, not to much effect. As an adult, effective, unless recognized. So now there are people who claim to not dream, nor remember their dreams. But jeez, anyone who has woken up with a rememberance and has not carried that for even 5 minutes into their waking state...must be a siddha.

Yes, I reckon it's probable! Now don't go using this-universe opinions to applying them to other-verses just because you have them in this-here universe:-)

OWS is just a sign for people who don't know how to read signs. ---opinion alert--- I've been reading through this one again and it seems that the game will be won on premises. In other words, if one can make "business" equal with "capitalism" and show that business-value-creation can't be had in the absence of capitalism then capitalism becomes just another necessary evil in the process of creating value. But what if value-creation and capitalism can be shown, not only not to be linked, but antitheitical (sp?) to each other? If it can be shown (and not just opined) then wouldn't that change something? No forceful revolutions or whatnots required. And I don't think threatening folks with the Communism and no dessert is up to scratch.

Wow! Really cool insight TaoMeow! Isn't sugar linked to the kidneys which are linked to sexual potency or something? Cravings coming from the same place? So it's not like people aren't saying what they actually mean, huh?

I'd probably kill my mother and be able to get away with it. But then she'd come back and haunt me or something. Or she'd kill me and not get away with it. But in any of those cases either of us would end up dead. What I mean with this lovely example (not taken from this here universe because the killing thing is only metaphorical anyway and it also looks like in this one, I have a conscience and I'm also quite adverse to killing) is that I wonder if the actions create the multitudes of versions. I mean you can think anything you want, but until you actually act, what universe (or which?) is actually in play?

Yes I agree that there doesn't seem to be many references to soul in English today. Although is mentioned "being in good spirits", "high-spirited". As far as I can tell, "soul" in English is something that requires saving, preferably via religious mediation. Oh, wait, I recall references to "soul-destroying" meaning situations that suck the life from people. But whether people actually believe in spirits or soul seems to be a very personal thing, although i think it's been discouraged as part of the rationalism that the culture has gone through.

Hmm, I'm not making a juice/health link there. To opinions, well, a whole n'other thing. I often have them:-) And I often change them upon evidence:-)

" (The unification of thinking and feeling is a noble spiritual goal...) " And so says Jung's commentary on the version of the Secret of the Golden Flower I'm presently reading. In fact, many "things" are to be reunited "on the way" IMO/IME. Not reuniting them, having no conscious awareness of them may mean actual consequences IMO/IME. And I'm sure this way is advocated as "natural". And so it is, I guess. But then, I suppose in being natural I should just "flow" with all and anything that hithertonow I was unconscious/unaware of. What if a large percentage of the "stuff" I am unaware of is part of my life before I was born? I'm not even talking about past lives, I mean the flooding of my system with "whatever" because at one point my system was not "mine". My DNA is not mine and my economic circumstances at birth, yep, not mine. I was hoping that Spirit might be (mine).

All very well Aaron. Howevs, while to a man (a person, really) that's possibly obvious. Self-evident even. To others it may a) not be b ) what they've been told their whole lives. So, in other words, everyone and every culture knows the extent to which their conveying (sp?) of life and meaning of life is both wrong and misleading but they still do/did it anyway. One wonders why?? Anyway, IMO, inside culture itself is a context for anyone who actually realises what's going on. Tadaaa = religion and esoteric/exoteric practices. Neither will get anyone anywhere. Although I figure that people with "higher" esoteric understanding get assimilated into cultural power structures more frequently.

Yeah, I was going to say it's hard to compare because so much of our porn (North America for example) is free. If you want to compare sexual freedom vs repression I think you would have to find another measure (or series of) that wasn't so "tainted" by $. Not sure what that would be though!

I found his breathing laboured and wondered if he wasn't in ill-health? Last time i saw him, he didn't seem quite so full of effort. He seemed a bit happier. Maybe it was just the heat there? What's with India anyway? I don't mean that to sound rude, but can't you get (or give) Darshan in Detroit and Shaktipat in the Sunshine State? Or is "going to India" the only way some folks will ever get into it? Leave-home huh?

Good post Bob! I think there is something to get into relative to your point about "natural decay" of thoughtforms. My take is that they are close to essence sometimes and other times very far away, all depending upon the quality (as in the conditions) of the time one is in. As such, their quality as vehicles is debateable to the nth. And possibly, very possibly, imposing vehicles on people when the former are known to be, well, used/up useless is IMO more of a cultural power game than anything else. Which sort of begs a question about who/what is playing/imposing what on whom and why? As far as I can tell, "essence" doesn't do anything like that. It doesn't "care" one way or another but it "cares" (apologies for personification) very much about you ( and me for that matter). And even the latter is a personification. So make of it what you will. I was going to be a jerk and say "kill the bhudda" but i haven't met him or her yet:-)

Weird spine rush and general meltdown that was later given a context called Kundalini. Found TTB's. Fixed some things, didn't fix others. I'm more of a Taoist than a Tantric, except it's the same thing, sort of. Well, the way I do it seems to be similar.

Now that's interesting! Especially the bear part. As far as I know, bear people are something to look into:-)

IMO it's not simply trash. It's cruelty and self-hurt. But I've already ranted about that book before I think so won't repeat myself.

"i think maybe you're just getting hung up on the "project" word. " Yeah, maybe, y'know paperclip, Manhattan... If Mark is a Sat Guru and a siddha and such and the goal is to zap as many people as possible then, like Witch suggested, "something's up". Or maybe there have always been this many gurus and rogue waker-uppers and it has nothing to do with yugas or whatnots. I'm just very very curious:-)

You're right all the way Apech. When I was referring to them (the gods) I really did mean to point out their autonomy as a definite psychic extant "thing" with influence on people's beliefs and actions. Did the creators of monotheisms know what they were doing? I think in this respect it's one of the things I appreciate about the "just scenary, empty" advice in Bhuddist practice. If in the course of meditation you start seeing ideas and words as sparkly colourful objects with definite forms and boundaries, you can perhaps understand how this could go down for the practitioner if they don't heed the "just scenery" advice! The notion goes "don't feed it/them" or "whatever you feed" but what that doesn't really say enough IMO is related to the autonomy gained (even temporarily) by psychic productions. And IMO the only way this would be possible even is through continuity of consciousness.

Sounds like it would be great to do outside, like in a park?