Tin Yat Taoist

Hello everyone, I know we haven't been around for a while, but I wanted to let any interested parties know that we have been updating and renovating our public access sites. Nowadays we are focusing exclusively on magical studies, so if you are interested in Chinese magic, come give this video a look. It is an in-depth look at how FU talismans are made : If you happen to speak Cantonese, here is another version: For a lot more in-depth explanations about how magic works, this is the Youtube channel for our lineage: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYMcTN3A930mbpwNZCPL8gw And the blog: http://ancientchinesemagic.blogspot.com/ Come on over and watch, and feel free to ask questions. You will get a much faster response if you post them on the Youtube videos, but I will do what I can to answer here if you post things. Thanks for reading!

Hello everyone, I am a student of the Tin Yat Taoism lineage, and I started an account so that people would have access to a real, confirmed member of our group if you would like to ask questions or have anything clarified. Please, feel free to ask questions, and if I don't know the answer, I'll get one for you.

HAHAHAHAHA! I don't have that kind of time, and it would be unnecessarily repetitive. Check out http://www.taoleaks.org for most of it, or ask if you have a specific question.

zanshin - we don't have any partiicular religious calendar observances. We usually do whatever is related to the culture we live in, minus any religious stuff. For example, I always see my family around xmas, but I don't go to church with any of them. Aaron - 'slander' is verbal, you probably meant 'libel'? Regardless, for a statement to be either, it has to be false. Anything he's stated as a fact over there, has been researched and can be backed by evidence. If you're just referring tot he coarse language, well...maybe that's not the board for you.

it's hard to explain it without going into extremely long-winded and sleep-inducing detail. The short version would be that, if I were going through all the crap that Mak Jo Si has had thrown at him over the past few years, I'd probably be far shorter-tempered than he is. I know all of the people from TY that are posting on that board, and I know them from more than just the pissed-off angle. I think they're just having a bit of entertainment at the expense of a sock puppet over there.

They're having a bit of fun over there playing with the uncensored environment. In fairness, the guy they're yelling at had been spamming Mak Jo Si's blog with all sorts of crap, so a bit of frustration is being vented. If swearing bothers you, probably better stick to this board

Nope, not in our purview. It's no better than the other way around, but that's for yin realm people to deal with. Not much we can do about it. And on the other question - it's not relevant to the concept of exorcism, because the faat energy isn't from earth, so our atmosphere doesn't change it. Here's a couple of other vids Mak Jo Si did on the relevant topics: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBmNXDAi3bg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3CBwyFsbwQ

HA! thanks for the fix!

Starbucks. http://obiwannabe.tumblr.com/post/58258105543

Ok I give up, I cant figure out how to change it. Am I too new to access it or something?

Oh, and if you would like a somewhat more in-depth explanation, check this out: http://ezinearticles.com/?Taoist-Magic-Power-Is-Not-Chi&id=7289247

Breathing practices...depends on what you're practicing I should clear up a few definitions before I proceed. As I understand it, many schools perceive 'pre-heaven chi' as hormones, or genetic predispoition, that sort of thing. Pre-heaven chi, in our view, is a bit more complicated - it's the stuff that comes from outside the physical world as we see it. 'Post-heaven chi' is, of course, food and air, the stuff you take in physically after birth. We're on the same page there. For the cultivation of Taoist magic, we devlop our ability to tap into 'faat', which is a form of pre-heaven energy. Simply put, it's a pure energy source accessed from the Celestial Realm, made available to official members of the lineage. We access this through the use of spells - handsigns, fu, activated weapons, and the like. Our level of access is determined by a lot of factors - regular use of the magics, cultivation, adherence to our protocols - but this is not cultivated through breathing practices, because it comes from an extra-physical source. It's something we devlop through intention and use. Pre-heaven energies can also be drawn from outside of the earth - planetary energies, that sort of thing. But, our bodies aren't really designed to handle that without a proper filter in place, so it's not a good thing to do. It's like trying to breathe water - fine for fish, not so good for us. For post-heaven chi - most of us practice chi kung, but it isn't a requirement. Anyone of any religion can practice chi kung, so we don't think of it as a 'Taoist' practice in the religious sense. Meaning, it's good and it's encouraged, but you don't have to practice chi kung to be a Tin Yat Taoist. We aren't blazing new ground there, it's a lot of 'try it and see what works', you know how that goes. One breathing pattern that we do use a lot, we call it 'real chi breathing', is to inhale for four seconds, hold for one second, exhale for six seconds. We use this to blend and circulate chi.

Holy crap, I did not! Thanks!

One thing I like about the 'cold brew' method is that when you add water to dilute the concentrate, you can use hot or cold. I mostly drink mine hot, and cold brewing is the only way I like it cold - the low-temp steeping prevents a lot of the more bitter volatile oils from making their way into the liquid.

As I understand it, yes. Important to note that it's not quite the same as yang or yin from a medical perspective. The way we define our terminology, we humans and everything we interact with exist in the 'yang' realm, for which there is a 'yin' opposite. This is the source of most of the negative spiritual things we describe. They are an improper yin intrusion into the yang realm, and by their presence they directly and indirectly cause all sorts of problems. So, yeah - it's yang expelling yin, to return to proper balance.

I like 'Grand Poobah' myself, but I havent convinced anyone else to refer to me as such. maybe I need a nametag.

It's totally up to you, but at least you know he isn't being held incommunicado in an undisclosed location

Ha! I need some of those! The main reason I have done the iced coffee concentrate lately is sheer outright laziness - I dont feel like bothering around with the aeropress or the french press in the morning. But I'll go without before I'll drink shitty coffee, so I tinkered with this til I got it exactly to my taste.

That is a really tough question to answer satisfactorily, but I'll do my best! When it comes to things like martial and healing arts, you are indeed correct - most of your results are immediately visible. That isn't always the case, though - anyone who's ever had to drink a particularly vile TCM tea for any length of time will know that you have to sometimes show patience and watch for results. With our magical cultivation, it has a lot to do with being tuned to your own perception, and evaluating your results immediately and over time. The immediate - particularly sensitive people, and people that have cultivated for a good length of time, will often feel sensations of heat - flashes of warmth, or even breaking into a sweat when working with magic. some feel tingles, some see flashes of light behind their eyes. Generally, if its the sort of thing you'd categorize as a 'yang' manifestation - heat, light, white, etc - it's a good thing. Cold, dark, sinking, yin - indicates a negative presence or influence, and is to be avoided. In the long term, you have to look at the progress of your life and well-being. As mentioned before, our magic is intended for spiritual cleaning, improving the souls and spirits, and as a consequence this sort of thing tends to make one's life flow smoother, makes decisions more clear, makes the right job easier to find, that sort of thing. If you look at the testimonials that have been put forth by some of the TIn Yat students, you can see this recurring theme - escaped a shitty job and got a much better one, found my way out of a bad relationship, things of that nature. I know that these are somewhat ephemeral descriptions, but part of the difficulty is in trying to explain something to someone who hasnt experienced it. How do you describe 'blue' to a blind man? I hope this helps, and feel free to ask for elaboration if there's a point I can help with.

There's a lot that has gone on with our lineage and temple that isn't public - attacks and such, actual physical break-ins and robberies, and I'm not going to elaborate further or name names here. I know you're all tired of hearing about it. He is feeling a bit paranoid at the moment, but it's for a bunch of good reasons. That's part of why I'm here - calming things down, bringing perspective

I don't know if you ever visit the Tao Uncut forum, but he's recently registered over there. I don't know if you ever visit the Tao Uncut forum, but he's recently registered an account over there if you want to say hi

I used to use a sun tea jar before I dropped the stupid thing, now I use a gallon sized growler jug. Until I drop that stupid thing, then we'll see what happens.

Marblehead - Okay, root premises. Please let me know if this helps, or if you would like elaboration or clarification at any point. Tin Yat is a conceptually modern Taoist lineage. While we respect historical Taoism, one of the problems we perceive is that it has been too often blended or taken entirely off course by Buddhist, Christian, Bon Po, and other influences. As I mentioned above, we believe that the path requires purity of intention to be effective and that's why we don't support the other religions. We don't have any particular problem with them, but we don't generally think they're on the right track. Our magical system reflects this idea. We are purifiers - we exorcise, we destroy spirits and negative energy, and we protect ourselves from those and from negative magic. We don't have offensive magics to use against people, but we can and do reflect ill-intended attacks back to their sources. Part of the modern concept of Tin Yat Taoism is that we do not restrict our cultivation and use of magical tools to the traditional swords, fu, etc. Airguns and flashlights are among the more common modern tools we use, and I respectfully submit that, if there had been access to our technology 2000+ years ago, the original Taoists would have happily included such things in their arsenal. In our lineage, the altar is perceived as a workspace, more like a mainframe terminal than a place of worship. Deities are perceived as influential beings that exist in another space or dimension, who are willing to assist us when asked politely. Sacrifices and worship are not required, just positive intention and respect. Like any other lineage, a person has to be a registered believer or member to have access to such things. Mak Jo Si and Lau Jo Si have also taken an approach that is a reverse of the common model of a Taoist temple: If you have a desire to learn and train in our magical system, a ton of information is free and available through the website, and they are happy to answer sincere, respectful questions and help the learning process. If you want them to provide you with their magical services, they charge for the fu. It seems reasonable to me, but I know there are people that disagree. I hope this was the sort of information you were looking for, feel free to ask if there's anything you'd like me to add or clarify!

Sorry I'm slow to respond today, life away from the net has been demanding. Marblehead - Wow, that's pretty open. give me a few minutes to formulate a response Leif - I perceive that first one as a difficulty of translation. What it boils down to for a member of the lineage such as myself, is that it is counterproductive to try and follow more than one path at a time. put equal parts gasoline, motor oil, and water into your gas tank, and the car isnt going anywhere. On a personal, not-a-spokesman level, my opinion is that you should try things out that seem right and see if they work for you. Tin Yat has worked well for me, and that's why I'm affiliated. In the official capacity, we aren't really going out of our way to research every path of every religion out there to verify them, since we have our path and it works fine for us. The recent kerfuffles regarding Luk Yam are from Mak Jo Si's personal experience and knowledge of their system. Second - You have to judge for yourself and see what seems right to you. I was pretty cautious when I first encountered Mak Jo Si myself, but he was patient and more than happy to answer questions for me. With Tin Yat, you can also start out at the 'registered believer' stage and see how it works out for you, no commitment, no strings attached. And at any stage in training and cultivation, you're free to leave if you feel that it's what you need to do. Third - you'd have to clarify what those two terms mean to you, for me to be able to answer that one clearly. That's his title in our lineage.

"Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so when he went in to his brother’s wife, he wasted his seed on the ground in order not to give offspring to his brother. But what he did was displeasing in the sight of the LORD; so He took his life also."