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Oh really? With your each post about me, you are lowering yourself. I really respected you in Confucius Qigong thread. You are one of the biggest disappointments in this forum. What a pity.

There is no cross cultural fertilization. This is not agriculture. Both cultures are very strong cultures. In both cultures, there are civilized city life. In both cultures, the literature is strong. The language is strong, rich. The tradition of poetry is extremely rich in both cultures. They did not mix. REPEAT. THEY DID NOT MIX. Your religous studies is bullshit if you do not believe existence and uniqueness of God Almighty. You call me silly? Your theory is silly 100%

To point the moon on the sky, a finger is needed. Shame on those who think that finger is the moon.

I meant that the evolution of people by Prophets ended with Prophet Muhammad. Please do not push my sentence out of its context. The evolution in general sense never stops. What you call as nuts is not my idea at all but it is your distortion.

God is not mother. God Almighty is not born. God Almighty does not give birth. God Almighty creates. The Earth is in very deep pain because of humanitys actions. So is Mother Mary. So is Prophet Jesus Christ. Looking at your description, it looks like you connected to a positive energy but any way it must checked whether it is positive or negative. Negs love to imitate positives and deceive people.

It is a rather disappointment. A very big one. So you bring the matter down to Islam vs. Christianity? I am seeing this Crusader spirit never dies. I will tell that I am much more close to Prophet Jesus Christ than you. MUCH MORE CLOSER. The real, unaltered Gospel is waiting underground to be discovered. Not in Greek language of course. You will see the same verse also given in the Gospel of Barnabas. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Barnabas) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Barnabas#Prediction_of_Muhammad The Gospel of Barnabas claims that Jesus predicted the advent of Muhammad, thus conforming with the Qur'an which mentions: And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said: O Children of Israel! I am the apostle of God (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me, and giving Glad Tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad. But when he came to them with Clear Signs, they said, this is evident sorcery! — Sura 61:6 [1] (Ahmad is another name of Muhammad.) A Muslim scholarly tradition links this Qur'anic passage to the New Testament references to the Paraclete (John 14:16, 14:26, 15:26, 16:7). The Greek word "paraclete" can be translated as "Counsellor", and refers according to Christians to the Holy Spirit. Some Muslim scholars, have noted the similarity to the Greek "peryklytos" which can be translated as "admirable one"; or in Arabic, "Ahmad".[49] The name of "Muhammad" is frequently mentioned verbatim in the Gospel of Barnabas, as in the following quote: Jesus answered: "The name of the Messiah is admirable, for God himself gave him the name when he had created his soul, and placed it in a celestial splendour. God said: 'Wait Mohammed; for thy sake I will to create paradise, the world, and a great multitude of creatures, whereof I make thee a present, insomuch that whoso bless thee shall be blessed, and whoso shall curse thee shall be accursed. When I shall send thee into the world I shall send thee as my messenger of salvation, and thy word shall be true, insomuch that heaven and earth shall fail, but thy faith shall never fail.' Mohammed is his blessed name." Then the crowd lifted up their voices, saying: "O God, send us thy messenger: O Admirable One, come quickly for the salvation of the world!" — Barnabas 97:9-10 The Italian manuscript replaces "Admirable One" with "Muhammad".[2] However, while there are many passages where the Gospel of Barnabas sets out alternative readings to parallel pericopes found in the canonical gospels, none of the references to Muhammad by name occurs in such a synoptic passage; and in particular, none of the "Muhammad" references in Barnabas corresponds to a "Paraclete" reference in canonical John. There is only one instance where the Gospel of Barnabas might be understood as "correcting" a known canonical pericope, so as to record a prophecy by Jesus of the (unnamed) Messenger of God: Then Jesus said: "I am a voice that cries through all Judea, and cries: 'Prepare you the way for the messenger of the Lord', even as it is written in Esaias." They said: "If you be not the Messiah nor Elijah, or any prophet, wherefore do you preach new doctrine, and make yourself of more account than the Messiah?" Jesus answered: "The miracles which God works by my hands show that I speak that which God wills; nor indeed do I make myself to be accounted as him of whom you speak. For I am not worthy to unloose the ties of the hosen or the ratchets of the shoes of the Messenger of God whom you call 'Messiah', who was made before me, and shall come after me, and shall bring the words of truth, so that his faith shall have no end." —Chapter 43 This passage corresponds closely with the canonical John 1:19-30, except that in that passage, the words are spoken by John the Baptist (in the Qur'an; Yahya ibn Zakariya) and refer to Jesus.

This point of view is very attractive. You put a distance between yourself and all religions and put them all of them in the same basket. I know it because I had been there. When the Day of Resurrection comes everybody will see which side is right. Thus, I am very comfortable. Again I would like to emphasize to correct the common misunderstanding which thelerner states. I am not saying "Mine is best, the others are worst" Not at all. What I am saying is "Mine is the only and complete one because all is one, one is all. Everything comes from God and returns to God".

The point that you did not understand is: religions have been stated by Prophets according to evolution level of that spesific society. So it as the humans evolve the religion that has been given to humanity has also evolved. This evolution ended with the last Prophet, Prophet Muhammad and Islam. I do not know if you are familiar with construction projects but it is similar to evolution of a project from Rev:0 to Latest Revision. Thus, the 99 Beautiful Names of God were not given to humanity by Prophet Moses or Prophet Jesus Christ as the humanity simply was not ready for them. So if you show Islam with equal shares from the pie with other religions, it is not correct. The 360o circle is Islam, the valid religion in God's court. Who do you believe? I hope you believe GOD

I never suspect you left reading the thread. You are extremely patient.

I think there is a misunderstanding. Ralis's sentence was "This is not a Christian nation" There are two different concepts 1. The religion of the nation? 2. The administration of the state is religious or secular? I mentioned the first one. People are replying with the second one. The US nation is dominantly Christian. The Constitution's approach about religions and its equal distance to each religion is a different subject.

Ohhh, reallyy? (Imitating the face of a stupid owl, Copyright More_Pie_guy) http://allchristiannews.com/obama-worships-god-before-being-sworn-into-office/ Obama Worships God Before Being Sworn Into Office

There is only one God. God Almighty is not responsible for bad actions of people.

Is this a Buddhist nation?

Holy Quran, Surat Ar-Rūm (The Romans), 30th Sura, 30th Ayah, (30:30) (http://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=30&verse=30) Sahih International: So direct your face toward the religion, inclining to truth. [Adhere to] the fitrah of Allah upon which He has created [all] people. No change should there be in the creation of Allah. That is the correct religion, but most of the people do not know. Pickthall: So set thy purpose (O Muhammad) for religion as a man by nature upright - the nature (framed) of Allah, in which He hath created man. There is no altering (the laws of) Allah's creation. That is the right religion, but most men know not - Yusuf Ali: So set thou thy face steadily and truly to the Faith: (establish) Allah's handiwork according to the pattern on which He has made mankind: no change (let there be) in the work (wrought) by Allah: that is the standard Religion: but most among mankind understand not. Shakir: Then set your face upright for religion in the right state-- the nature made by Allah in which He has made men; there is no altering of Allah's creation; that is the right religion, but most people do not know-- Muhammad Sarwar: (Muhammad), be devoted to the upright religion. It is harmonious with the nature which God has designed for people. The design of God cannot be altered. Thus is the upright religion, but many people do not know. Mohsin Khan: So set you (O Muhammad SAW) your face towards the religion of pure Islamic Monotheism Hanifa (worship none but Allah Alone) Allah's Fitrah (i.e. Allah's Islamic Monotheism), with which He has created mankind. No change let there be in Khalq­illah (i.e. the Religion of Allah Islamic Monotheism), that is the straight religion, but most of men know not. [Tafsir At­Tabari, Vol 21, Page 41] Arberry: So set thy face to the religion, a man of pure faith -- God's original upon which He originated mankind. There is no changing God's creation. That is the right religion; but most men know it not -- Chegg, There is only one religion in God's court. This religion has not been changed for billions of years and will not be changed for billions of years.. So your graph is not true at all from Divine Realms point of view.

Brian, When somebody attacks me or posts a counter argument against me, you like that post immediately independent of the nature of that post. I am aware of that. You do not like me. You do not have to. I am trying to show the truths in my posts. Do you get them? A small percentage of them, yes you do. Coming to your Hmmm issue, I explained millions of times that people are not repeat are not representatives of religions. Do you want to learn about Islam? Read Holy Quran. Full stop. What will happen to those Imams or Sheikhs who are doing bad things? It is NOT your problem. It is their problem. Holy Quran, Surat Az-Zalzalah (The Earthquake), 99th Sura, (http://quran.com/99) (99:1) When the earth is shaken with its [final] earthquake, (99:2) And the earth discharges its burdens (99:3) And man says, "What is [wrong] with it?" (99:4) That Day, it will report its news (99:5) Because your Lord has commanded it. (99:6) That Day, the people will depart separated [into categories] to be shown [the result of] their deeds. (99:7) So whoever does an atom's weight of good will see it, (99:8) And whoever does an atom's weight of evil will see it.

Holy Quran, Surat Al-Ĥaj (The Pilgrimage), 22nd Sura, 17th Ayah http://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=22&verse=17 (22:17) Sahih International: Indeed, those who have believed and those who were Jews and the Sabeans and the Christians and the Magians and those who associated with Allah - Allah will judge between them on the Day of Resurrection. Indeed Allah is, over all things, Witness. Pickthall: Lo! those who believe (this revelation), and those who are Jews, and the Sabaeans and the Christians and the Magians and the idolaters - Lo! Allah will decide between them on the Day of Resurrection. Lo! Allah is Witness over all things. Yusuf Ali: Those who believe (in the Qur'an), those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Sabians, Christians, Magians, and Polytheists,- Allah will judge between them on the Day of Judgment: for Allah is witness of all things. Shakir: Surely those who believe and those who are Jews and the Sabeans and the Christians and the Magians and those who associate (others with Allah)-- surely Allah will decide between them on the day of resurrection; surely Allah is a witness over all things. Muhammad Sarwar: On the Day of Judgment, God will make truth and falsehood clearly distinct from each other to the believers, the Jews, the Sabeans, the Christian, the Zoroastrians, and the Pagans on the Day of Judgment. God is a Witness to all things. Mohsin Khan: Verily, those who believe (in Allah and in His Messenger Muhammad SAW), and those who are Jews, and the Sabians, and the Christians, and the Magians, and those who worship others besides Allah, truly, Allah will judge between them on the Day of Resurrection. Verily! Allah is Witness over all things. Arberry: Surely they that believe, and those of Jewry, the Sabaeans, the Christians, the Magians and the idolaters -- God shall distinguish between them on the Day of Resurrection; assuredly God is witness over everything. The word Magians (in Turkish "Mecusi") is the word used in Arabic to denote Zoroastrians. Etymologically the word comes from the priests of Zoroastrianism. The Zoroastrianism were of course known as the religion of Iran during Prophet Muhammad's time. There were no Zoroastrians among Arabs only a few Iranians living in Arabia. The main concept was the trade and both Iranians and Arab traders traveled to each other countries by camels. That is all. Your Iranian friends are very right. You Westerners do not understand Middle East at all.

I am really bored to discuss with somebody who has never understood what has been going on Middle East. If you believe in God and Prophet Moses, Prophet Jesus Christ and Prophet Muhammad are messengers of God, that means they got the divine information from God not from Zoroaster. We do not know whether Zoroaster was a Prophet or not. He may be or he may not be. Coming to this Religious Studies issue, if you are a Pagan with an altar (you said it before), then all you can do is to reach bullshit results with bullshit theories. If your secular Religious Studies is a multidisciplinary study based on history, geography and demography, the Semite language speaking socities (Jews, Arabs, Syriacs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syriac_language)) never ever spoke Persian instead of their native languages. NEVER. Culturally speaking, they are very very very different and independent.

Mal Stainkey, You will definitely ban me because you already decided to do it. I REALLY DO NOT CARE.

I replied to this argument before. It is the nature of human obeying Nafs committing murders although there are open statements against killing in Abrahamic religions. Thus, if you want to blame somebody, it is humanity not Abrahamic religions. There are many Buddhists out there doing evil things. There are many Atheists out there doing evil tihings. The problem is independent of one's religion.

I am sure you are wise enough to know that Ilm Ladun can not be given in an open forum. Besides, there is Nungali, Brian and others waiting for my posts in order to make extremely happy jokes about valuable and real info I shared here before. For instance, I shared a very small Ilm Ladun information about Kutbul Azam (Great Pole) and everybody made jokes. These jokes made them nothing but earn kafarat or karma. Real Information from Divine Realms is very serious business. My advise is to purchase that book and try to do the simple exercises given at the end of each chapter. By the way, every creation has Nafs. The objective is not to kill your Nafs, if you do so, you can not exist. The objective is to purify the Nafs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tazkiah)

Refer to my posts about four levels. You are talking about Sharia level and trying to compare it with Haqiqa and Marifa levels which does not make sense at all. Let me explain that with a brief example. Assume there is a four storeys building. There is a park near the building with high trees. The guy living in the first storey, the ground floor, the sharia level, looks at the park and sees the trees. The guy living at the fourth storey, marifa level, is high enough to see the lake behind the park. The Marifa level guy says to Sharia level guy that there is a lake behind the park. The Sharia level says it is impossible. There are only trees out there. Each man is telling the truth.

Good question. I have to work on that.

Go ahead, make my day.

I have great respect for Zen Buddhism as I always stated before. I am a devout Muslim and a humble server of God Almighty. I believe and say that "There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is Server and Messenger of Allah." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahadah)

Look at that mirror. You will see an interesting view.