Isimsiz Biri

Alwayson both Buddha and Jesus Christ love you. They also love each other too. Just say "Go away!" to Satan. You are a good man.

Alwayson, Jesus Christ loves you. As I said, persevere. You are a good man.

I am too tired to reply Nungali's post. It is once again meaningless. He seems to hear about some Islamic terminology yet he knows nothing. The subject is meditation in graveyard. I am saying that you will give a difficult time to earth bound spirits.

I have read your meaningless post. I did not invite you to be a Muslim. So your statements are funny. I said a very simple thing: Do not whatever you are doing in that graveyard. You are torturing earth bound spirits of that graveyard in order to satisfy your Nafs which is already strong. Stop telling Sufi stories because you do not have the pure heart necessary for the nur of them. If you want to clean the rust and debris in your heart, pray to Allah. The descending to Hell issue: Good luck and peace to you as you will need in Hell. Bye

Alaykum Salam. The Jesus Christ is a Prophet of God Almighty. This is not my opinion, this is the statement of Holy Quran. Every Muslim believes it. Other than this, this is all from my side.

Dear sir, Whatever you are doing in a graveyard, is useful neither for you nor for those earthbound spirits.

Good post. Just for the records, Jesus Christ was a Prophet of God. He was a man of compassion, actually he still is. I personally love and respect him. God bless him. Alwayson, please do not anwer this post. If you have anything to say, PM me. Let us keep this thread around its subject.

My humble advice is not to jump to Mantak Chia books and teachings. Just stay with Stephen Chang.

The scenario is already written :-)

Good post

Earth bound spirits are poor beings which need help. We frequently help them to pass to other world. But again, one has to know what he/she does.

Sufism + Neo Spiritism.

That kind of offense does not occur as easy as you said. Actually, it usually happens in one way: If you pee in the woods without warning the elemental nature spirits, then they really get upset and send you enormously powerful negative energies like arrows. Then, your aurora get pierced.

Trust me you did not hear even 1% of the truth. It is unjust to give a certain knowledge which is beyond the reality of that particular person. However, for evolution the reality of that person should be stretched a little bit. Also, please do not assume that spirit of every dead person does not become earth bound. Only a certain percentage becomes like that.

You may call BS but it is truth

Thank you.

There are earth bound spirits, spirits who could not pass to Spatyom in the graveyards. If Satan captures these spirits, they become specters. That is the reason people tell that graveyards are uncanny. Since you do not know what to do with these spirits, you better stay away.

Do you have any estimation about the percentage of people ending with Kundalini syndrome out of all Kundalini practitioners?

Nobody is obliged to look for your old bullshit. You already have plenty of them here. If you can not win Nobel Prize in medicine, try Nobel Prize in physics. After all, you know the 4th and 5th dimensions. How does it happen? During meditation, suddenly you shake with energy and you see the image of numeral "5" and you say "Aha, I am in the 5th dimension!"?

Now we receive answers from the mysterious 5th dimension. I asked you questions and you could not reply them as you do not know the answers. And you started crying like a baby who lost his toy. Either reply my questions like a gentleman or stop splattering your bullshit. So you had said that you can treat cancer with your Qigong which John Chang can not treat? Have you won Nobel prize in medicine? I think you should

I wish exactly the same for you Mr.

The problem is you are the one who does not understand Taoist alchemy and you are not aware of this point. 20 years has passed since I read Mantak Chia books. I have lost contact with them. I sincerely wish I could. Again, you did not get my point. I told that if you learn these "foundational" practices from Mantak Chia books, you are in danger. If you are able to find a real master, practice with him/her. This thread is about MCO but my reply is not about MCO, it is advanced than MCO. I made the electrical analogy for the lack of a better example. From your sentence, "Voltage is energy", we already understood that you are not an engineer, additionally, I see that physics was not your favorite lesson in high school. I perfectly understood that the terms of analogy (not illustration). Jing, Qi and Shen has many many types. It is not Jing only. Jing is the general name of a category. It is not Qi either. Qi is the name of a general category too. Yes that pipe can burst, did burst for somebody and may burst for some others if they practice from the Mantak Chia books. It does not burst if you are working with a real Shifu from a real lineage. How do you understand that you lead Qi in your body? You sense some heat, some tingling or some cold? Or could you make telekinesis for instance? What kind of "experiments" are these? Could you describe? How do you define "Wu Wei" state? How do you understand that you or somebody else reach that state? How do you define "Zi Ran" state? How do you understand that you or somebody else reach that state? What kind of good things happen? For instance, does cancer heal? Does open wounds heal instantaneously? Or Do you see some angels? What kind of good things? What is dead energy? What is Yang and Yin according to you? I know "Daoist" practices as much as you do, I am not speaking as an engineer here. How do you define 3rd, 4th, and 5th dimensions? Have you observed that 5th dimension? Could you please describe us this 5th dimension so everybody can learn? Transmutation is of course basis of Alchemy. The problem is are you doing transmutation? Or are you just thinking you are doing transmutation? How do you understand? Loss of Jing through ejaculation is also a "Daoist" myth. Anyway, my point is very simple. If you are practicing MCO from Mantak Chia books, you are in risk. Full Stop.

I am not neo-hippy. But instead of being a terminator like being as you are, I would prefer to be a neo-hippy, at least it is human. By the way, do you look like Arnold Schwarzenegger in Terminator movie? If you are, I will not be surprised.

You do not have any capability to observe higher realms. You do not know whether "his mind survived into transition unlike virtually everyone else on planet earth. What remains of 99.99999999999999999999% of the population is a dead husk of a mind, with no volition or ability to remember or understand emotion, a dreaming subconscious mind." or not. Again, this is just your opinion as 99% of the case, it is not correct. Compassion and love is the basis of creation but I am not expecting you to understand it at all. In order to understand it, you have to clear rusts on your heart. Just do not spray your upper body with some anti rust when you read this. Mo Pai is not a science as you understand. In science, you go to a lab, you make experiments and find some results. Another scientist comes and if he/she makes the same experiment, he/she should find exactly the same results as you did. Then, it becomes science. John Chang reached level 20 (let us assume it, it is true) Why did his students not reach level 4 and beyond? Any idea? Then, Mo Pai is not a science in the sense that you understand.

Sirs, I have known some people who had practiced Micro Cosmic Orbit Meditation from Mantak Chia books and then had nervous breakdowns and/or some indications similar to Kundalini syndrome. I got into very unpleasant discussions about Mo Pai in this forum so I really have no intention to continue to post in this thread. I clearly made my warning. That is it, either buy it or neglect it, it is your free will. Since when saying the truths did become scare tactics? Interesting. The meridians you mentioned is not all the energy lines in the body. There are many others unkown by Traditional Chinese Medicine and/or Daoism. If you want to make analogy between mechanical and electrical systems. Yes, current is analogous to flow and speed. Voltage is not analogous to energy but it is analogous to pressure or potential. For your information, I am an engineer. The urethra is a flexible tank. And also, urine cells are able to change its volumes such that they can be compressed to be fit in the same volume. If you have enough amount urine, you start to pee unwillingly. Let us say that some sadist medical personnel made an experiment on your body and they blocked the passage of urine. Then your urethra would explode definitely. Hydrostatic pressure is no joke. Having said the above, yes you are right, higher the entrance pressure or voltage or potential, higher the flow rate or current. The question is very simple: If you raise the pressure or voltage higher than the capacity of pipe or cable, what will happen? Answer: The pipe will burst, the cable will burn. I totally disagree energy being transmuted. You are playing a very dangerous game here. It may not be harmful for everybody at the same degree, but for some of the people it is dangerous. Especially, if you do not have a master by you to supervise you. You are saying that alchemy does not work like this. Pardon me, do you have an ability to follow Qi or energy within one's body? How do you be certain about your statements? How do you know the working principles of Alchemy? You read in Mantak Chia or similar authors books?