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Dorian Black, You are definitely confused. I will pray for you. Best Regards,

Ignored with bliss

Refer to the post I made about Asian Shamanism and please shut up

Oh The spine ejaculator is teaching me Shamanism. I have tears in my eyes. Thanks to God, I am not your son. Again, in Turkish, Tunguz, Mongol Shamanism psychedelics are never used. Because they are aware of dangers I mentioned. There is a very strong Shamanism tradition in Asia, the word "Shaman" comes from Tunguz. It is called as "Kam" in Turkish. Could you deny that psychedelics are not used in Asian Shamanism which is also roots of Daoism? Could you? Do you have any idea why? You say you know South American shamanism and I already told that they are using psychedelics. Have you ever met with an Turkish, Mongol, Tunguz etc Shaman in your life? I did. Have you discussed the topic of psychedelics with this Shaman? I did. His name is Cenk Sertdemir. He is Turkish. He is a Wolf (Kurt in Turkish) Shaman. He became a Shaman in Tuva Republic of Russia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuva) near Altay Mountains, the mainland of Turkish people. Tuva Republic of Russia is the only country on this world with official religion as Shamanism. Tuva Turks is a branch of Turkish nation. I am giving links for videos of Cenk Sertdemir Spring Ritual: Tuvan Shaman Ritual: I have nothing to learn from you about Shamanism. The South American Shamanic way you are practicing with psychedelics is negative.

It is not your business.

Qi is not measured by volts If you think you can, do it. Unbelievable, you really believe that Mo-Pai Neigong increases the bioelectrical voltage of human Body? And in the famous youtube video, the scientists could not get any voltmeter readings from Chang Sifu's body. You also watched that video? Stay way from me

I have to disagree. But have you ever attended an Asian Shamanic ritual or a Sufi Zikrullah? Basically, both use the same technique. There is only rhythmic noise of the shaman's drum and you really go into trance and visit some worlds without a psychedelic.. This has been applied for thousands of years. Really you do not need LSD for that.

As long as he shows respect to posts even he disagrees, he could do whatever he wants. My preference of course, is to stay way from my posts.

Sure he may go shopping. But to ejaculate into his spine is his favourite technique. Please refer to first post of : (http://thetaobums.com/topic/25322-had-a-rather-frightening-experience-yesterday/)

Nafs is NOT Satanic part of man. It is NOT ego either. If you like "Psycho" music, please save it as mp3 file and listen to it alone. Nafs is the Self of the man. It is not possible to translate it completely to English. Most writers translate as Self but it does not fit 100 %. Similar to famous word of "Qi" That is the reason I am using it as Nafs. If you want to really, understand it, read Robert Frager's "Heart, Self, and Soul: The Sufi Psychology of Growth, Balance, and Harmony" (http://www.amazon.com/Heart-Self-Soul-Psychology-Balance/dp/083560778X) You will see that there are seven levels of Nafs related with seven chakras. (Do not play Psycho music while reading the book, better play some Sufi music)

Thank you sir.

Watch your mouth. You are not in a position to call my writings as nonsense. If you disagree, you say you disagree. You go and continue ejaculating to your spine.

Only a graduate student of electric engineering can do such a post. We never use 6 significant digits such as 1.342.177 volts ev. Did you measure this value with a voltmeter with +/- 1 volt accuracy in 1.3 million volts? May be you found a level 30 master and with a voltmeter you measured this precise figure with six significant digits? Just watch the video of Chang Sifu again and understand that you can not measure an electric current, my "engineer" friend. Your terminology does not work here. It seems you did not understand my point. I did not talk about wars. If you really understood that I was talking about wars, my advise will be to go to your engineering studies and leave reading forums You are like candid camera show. Are you serious? Are you 29 years old really? I think you should only do laboratory experiments until the end of your career. Touche! I gave up. Sinan Sencer can be happy. I have not seen such a ridiculous post ever? I really gave up. You win.

Sir, Tongkosong is saying that David has coined the term and Chang Shifu did not hear it. First of all, Chang Shifu really could have not heard it before. But please remember that Chang Shifu is living in İndonesia and he has limited communication with mainland China real daoist masters. Let us assume that David really coined the term Lei Shan Dao with his non existing Chinese. Then, he also coined Miao Tong Dao, Yang Shen Dao, Tong Ling Dao, Jin Dan Dao, Xia Mian Dao too. Oh come on! The metallic ball bearing this Tongkosong mentioned was not a ball bearing. It was an external dan made from elementary mercury. It was a Jin Dan Dao practice. The Jin Dan Dao masters of David taught him this technique. He purchased mercury from a pharmacy. Then gave qi from his dantian for a certain period, may be one month, I do not remember, then this mercury became an external dan. I also touched and held it with my own hands in 2006. It was mercury but at room temperature and atmospheric pressure, it was not in liquid form! It was as hard as a stone and it was not toxic. I am sorry but I know a lot of things I am not writing here and please believe me, David Verdesi did not coin all these six terms. Full stop.

You may refer to http://quran.com/7 Especially, ayah no 11-30 in the 7. Surah (Al Araf) of Holy Quran By the way, I am warning everybody to be respectful to Holy Quran.

Still ignored, sorry Cat

I am ashamed to ask. How do you do that?

Still Ignored

I attended two seminars. I have similar story too. If I were them, I would pay the money back unless there is a very late notification. But commercial issues always make me nervous because it is all related with Nafs unfortunately.

Dear More Pie Guy, I already stated that you are a good and honest man. So I definitely trust what you say, no need for proving documentation. I am sorry about the incident. But in fact, you are lucky that you did not go there. It seems you paid some of the karma with that money, so you should be thankful to God. My humble advice is also to drop off your big desire about Mo-Pai. I am telling that to protect you. Best Regards,

Dear More Pie Guy By the way, it is not Lei Shan Dao only. It is the six great daos: 1. Lei Shan Dao (Thunder or Lightning Path) 2. Miao Tong Dao (Sudden Enlightenment Path, Path of Lao Tzu) 3. Yang Shen Dao (Yang Spirit Path) 4. Tong Ling Dao (Dealing with Ling, closest to Abrahamic Religions) 5. Jin Dan Dao (External Alchemy Path) 6. Xia mian Dao (Shaman Dao) Please ask the scholars all six of them,

No, I can not and you can not. Because: 1. We are not native Chinese speakers 2. We are not from the real Daoist communites of China 3. We do not have access to real Chinese authentic masters. Encyclopedias of Taoism in English does not contain even 1 % of the information of the Daoist Canon. It is very normal that you can not find it there. Prominent Scholars? Who are they? I do not think, they will know the terminology. David can reply it but God knows when. Thank you for your sincere efforts. At least, you are trying. I know David. Although I do not accept some of his attitudes, he is an honest guy in the sense that if he gets his money, he does his scope of work. Just do not rely too much on internet information. I will not discuss about David in an open forum either. There are many prejudiced people about him with false information. Please let me know about the term "Lei Shan Dao". But I can bet that scholars did not hear it either.

Ignored

"If 100 dogs are not barking after the wolf, it is not wolf" Turkish-Mongol Proverb. Say anything you like

I can but then your hair will grow white instantaneously. You are still young, presumably with some not white hair on your head.