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I think that the heading of this thread is a little bit strange. Engligtened Wizards, Mages, Shamans? Some of the Shamans are positive but Wizards and Mages? I do not think there are good Wizards or Mages. If you are asking the enlightened people which are a few people in a whole country, as far as I know, I have to tell Turkey. Meanwhile, I also love and respect Japan much more than China and Korea but these are personal feelings.

Just relax. Concentrate on One-Point (Dan Tian). Breathe in from the nose very slowly and breathe out from mouth with a barely audible sound of "haaa". Deep long breaths from abdomen. Do not press your tongue to upper palate etc. Your blood circulation and qi circulation will be restored. 10 - 20 minutes every day. Better in a standing position but not necessary. Focus on One-Point. I agree with Gerard's advices.

Taomeow, In my understanding, someone, some masters must have observed these five categories of energy and their associated patterns you mentioned. And this is not just one master but many generations of masters who can see with their third eye the astral realms. If this is the case, I really do not understand why there is a difference between cultures not just Western compared to Chinese but also Sufism and Islam to Chinese. Anyway, unless we are able to rally see these energies, we can not solve that mystery.

And what makes all the others experts on every subject here? Do every body posting here know what they post for certain? Or Did they figure out their points by thinking about them? Only reply for that will be a kiai from tanden: "Hoyyyttttttt!"

I completely agree that I oversimplified the process, but in this froum, I see that from every level of education and cultural level people exist so I preferred to keep it in primary school level. And I am sure that all over the world millions have read "The Secret" but the "secretly" self made millionaires are a few. In your explanation, there is no affect of God and Divine Realm just like the Secret book. I think that the affect of God and the Divine Realm that operates by the permission of God should be incorporated into equation.

Thought becomes matter in the astral realms. If you think you are driving an expensive car, this image becomes a matter in astral realms. If you keep this astral matter enough time by thinking the same thing, then, this astral matter reflects itself to physical world and becomes a physical reality. This is the mechanism of so called "The Secret". However, if you chase materialist desires such as money, car, house etc and forget God Almighty, God Almighty will also forget you. So basically, this Secret thing serves evil because it focuses only materialist desires.

Taomeow, You really spent time for your reply. I appreciate it.

Excuse me for the question, but what is the Lucas Huang's relation with Mo-Pai? Was he a disciple of Chang Sifu? What is his neigong level? I became a member at the mentioned forum and saw that somebody else already asked similar questions to Lucas Huang but there was no reply

There are two kinds of destiny, absolute and obscure. Absolute destiny defines your main parameters, your spouse, your children, your parents are all set up before encarnation so one has no control over it Obscure destiny is the destiny that will be shaped by the actions of that person that she or he performs by her/his free will. If you say that life is like a chess board, absolute destiny sets the boundaries of the board and the rules while playing the chess pieces. For instance, you can not play the knight like a bishop, there are certain limitations, this is absolute destiny. However, you are free to make your move within the chess game obeying the rules. This is obscure destiny.

Dear Taomeow, Thank you for reply. But I am more confused now. Instead of Air in the West, Chinese has Wood and Metal. You did not mention Metal. First, I do not undertand why you say Wood Qi propagates life? I always thought other elements has also equivalents in human body and related with life. Second, what is Metal standing for? Metal is normally within Earth (as metal ore) and it is made by Humans artificially. I am sorry to bother you. Thanks in advance.

Could any body explain why there are five elements in Chinese system where as there are four elements in ancient Western systems? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_element)

I am really not in a mood to discuss Osho. In my opinion, truth is one. You can not defend open marriage and monogamy at the same time, Good and bad are very obvious. Negative side likes to mix human's minds a lot. Be careful. I really agree that there are many charlatans out there. I recall the youtube video called "Kiai Master Yanagikuryen vs MMA" (www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEDaCIDvj6I) describing exactly the same situation you mentioned. Please believe that Yin-Yang Gong is such a thing that is very authentic and when you feel it, you instantaneously understand that it is something very very unusual and it is not a trick. But true masters are very very seldom. I agree with your master, "Always check"

About Osho, I do not like him at all. In my view, he is negative. I know that he is defending free porn, open marriages, etc. These are not for me. But again, I am sure there are many people who like Osho very much. This is their view. I think differently. Yin-Yang Gong of Lei Shan Dao is a real thing. I have best friends who experienced it as a first hand. Moreover, it is not only Chang Sifu and Mo-Pai, there are other Sifus and lineages as well. Chang Sifu is very powerful but there are much much higher level masters out there. They just do not show themselves to public. Please do not ask more details. Of course, you have the right not to believe me as well as I have the right not to have to persuade you.

In my humble opinion, it is a matter of lineage. If there is a master of a certain true lineage and if that lineage really possess the correct set of techniques, then with the guidance of that master, the results that you are looking for could be achieved. Also, Chang Sifu, Wang Xiangzhai and Robert Peng are not in the same league. I am not sure of Chang Sifu's level, once upon a time I heard that he is level 20 of 72. Again, I am not sure of this information. But anyway, Chang sifu is far more superior than the other two. I would also like to add that I think Wang Xiangzhai's methods of Zhang Zhuang and martial art of Yiquan or Da Cheng Chuan is very valuable, because it is much more easy to access them compared to Mo-Pai and especially Zhang Zhuang could be done by everybody and it is very good for health. Thus, for public interest, Wang Xiangzhai has much more importance than Mo-Pai.

Everybody reflects her/his value.

Killing people is not related with what you you eat. Eat more pork.

I believe that murdering people is a terrible act. A murderer is a murderer. My point is that not only Muslims and Jews but also Christians had murdered and are murdering people based on their religious beliefs. I remember US President George W.Bush using the word "crusade" in 2001. There is a concept of Tenth Crusade. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenth_Crusade) I may give another example if you wish. Belgium ruled Congo in Africa between 1885 and 1908. The Belgian King Leopold II's administration made terrible things. They cut off one hand of local workers who failed to meet rubber collection quotas. The Belgians killed many local people. Please remember Belgians also eat pork and as far as I know they are Christians. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congo_Free_State Severed hands Congolese labourers who failed to meet rubber collection quotas were often punished by having their hands cut off. Nsala of Wala sits with the hand and foot of his five-year old daughter, who was killed and allegedly cannibalized by the members of the ABIR militia. Failure to meet the rubber collection quotas was punishable by death. Meanwhile, the Force Publique were required to provide a hand of their victims as proof when they had shot and killed someone, as it was believed that they would otherwise use the munitions (imported from Europe at considerable cost) for hunting food. As a consequence, the rubber quotas were in part paid off in chopped-off hands. Sometimes the hands were collected by the soldiers of the Force Publique, sometimes by the villages themselves. There were even small wars where villages attacked neighbouring villages to gather hands, since their rubber quotas were too unrealistic to fill. One junior white officer described a raid to punish a village that had protested. The white officer in command 'ordered us to cut off the heads of the men and hang them on the village palisades ... and to hang the women and the children on the palisade in the form of a cross.'[10] After seeing a Congolese person killed for the first time, a Danish missionary wrote: 'The soldier said "Don't take this to heart so much. They kill us if we don't bring the rubber. The Commissioner has promised us if we have plenty of hands he will shorten our service."'[11] In Forbath's words: The baskets of severed hands, set down at the feet of the European post commanders, became the symbol of the Congo Free State. ... The collection of hands became an end in itself. Force Publique soldiers brought them to the stations in place of rubber; they even went out to harvest them instead of rubber... They became a sort of currency. They came to be used to make up for shortfalls in rubber quotas, to replace... the people who were demanded for the forced labour gangs; and the Force Publique soldiers were paid their bonuses on the basis of how many hands they collected. In theory, each right hand proved a killing. In practice, soldiers sometimes "cheated" by simply cutting off the hand and leaving the victim to live or die. More than a few survivors later said that they had lived through a massacre by acting dead, not moving even when their hands were severed, and waiting till the soldiers left before seeking help. In some instances a soldier could shorten his service term by bringing more hands than the other soldiers, which led to widespread mutilations and dismemberment. [edit]Death toll A reduction of the population of the Congo is noted by all who have compared the country at the beginning of Leopold's control with the beginning of Belgian state rule in 1908, but estimates of the deaths toll vary considerably. Estimates of contemporary observers, as well as some modern scholars (such as Jan Vansina, professor emeritus of history and anthropology at the University of Wisconsin), suggest that the population decreased by half during this period.[12] Others dispute this; the scholars at the Royal Museum for Central Africa in Tervuren, Belgium, find a decrease of 15% over the first forty years of colonial rule (up to the census of 1924). According to British diplomat Roger Casement, this depopulation had four main causes: "indiscriminate war", starvation, reduction of births and diseases.[13] Sleeping sickness ravaged the country and was used by the regime to account for demographic decrease. Opponents of King Leopold's rule stated, however, that the administration itself was to be considered responsible for the spreading of the epidemic.[14] One of the greatest specialists on sleeping sickness, P.G. Janssens, Professor at the Ghent University, wrote:[citation needed] It seems reasonable to admit the existence on the territories of the Congo Free State, of French Congo and Angola of a certain number of permanent sources that have been put again in activity by the brutal changement of ancestral conditions and ways of life that has accompanied the occupation of the territories. In the absence of a census (the first was taken in 1924) to provide even an opening figure,[15] it is impossible to quantify population changes in the period. Despite this, Forbath claimed the loss was at least 5 million;[16] Adam Hochschild, and Isidore Ndaywel è Nziem, 10 million;[17][18] the Encyclopædia Britannica[citation needed] and Fredric Wertham's 1966 book "A Sign For Cain: An Exploration of Human Violence"[19] estimate that the population of the Congo dropped from 30 million to 8 and 8.5 million, respectively, in that period. However no verifiable records exist. Louis and Stengers state that population figures at the start of Leopold's control are only "wild guesses", while calling E.D. Morel's attempt and others at coming to a figure for population losses as "but figments of the imagination".[20] To put these population changes in context sourced references state that in 1900, Africa had between 90 million[21] and 133 million people.[22] Another example could be given from Bosnia. Serbs are orthodox christians and they killed Muslim based on their faith. They went to church for Sunday prayer and the following Monday they killed people and raped women between 1990 -1995 For a radical Serb, a Muslim is a pig and should be killed according to their conventional belief system based on their Orthodox Christian church. Please refer to: Srebrenica massacre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srebrenica_massacre) Foča massacres (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fo%C4%8Da_massacre) Višegrad massacres (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vi%C5%A1egrad_massacres) Prijedor massacre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prijedor_massacre) Markale massacre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markale_massacre) Sijekovac killings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markale_massacre) Siege of Sarajevo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Sarajevo) The Christian Croats also killed Muslim Bosnians based on their belief system too. Similar to Serbs, Croats also consider killing Muslims is a crusade. Please refer to: Lašva Valley ethnic cleansing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La%C5%A1va_Valley_ethnic_cleansing) For general information, refer to: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_War) The Croats, Serbs, and Bosnians speak similar languages, they have common history. Bosnians are Muslims. Serbs and Croats are Christian. As you see, unfortunately, Christians are also capable of killing people based on their belief system even today.

The crusaders were also eating pork. At the end of first crusade in year 1099 A.D., after the siege of Jerusalem, the city was conquered by Crusaders. They killed men, women, children, Muslim, Christian, Jewish, every body and every moving living thing, even cats, dogs and domestic animals. The excerpt is from (http://en.wikipedia....i/First_Crusade) Massacre The Siege of Jerusalem as depicted in a medieval manuscript The massacre that followed the capture of Jerusalem has attained particular notoriety, as a "juxtaposition of extreme violence and anguished faith".[92] The eyewitness accounts from the crusaders themselves leave little doubt that there was great slaughter in the aftermath of the siege. Nevertheless, some historians propose that the scale of the massacre has been exaggerated in later medieval sources, partly as a result of influence from Muslim sources, and partly as a result of the misinterpretation of the Crusaders' resort to apocalyptic language to describe the scenes.[91] Contemporary Muslim reactions to the massacre were muted when compared to later polemics on the subject.[91] After the successful assault on the northern wall, the defenders fled to the Temple Mount, pursued by Tancred and his men. Arriving before the defenders could secure the area, Tancred's men assaulted the precinct, butchering many of the defenders, with the remainder taking refuge in the Al-Aqsa Mosque. Tancred then called a halt to the slaughter, offering those in the mosque his protection.[91] When the defenders on the southern wall heard of the fall of the northern wall, they fled to the citadel, allowing Raymond and the Provençals to enter the city. Iftikhar al-Dawla, the commander of the garrison, struck a deal with Raymond, surrendering the citadel in return for being granted safe passage to Ascalon.[91] The slaughter continued for the rest of the day; Muslims were indiscriminately killed, and Jews who had taken refuge in their synagogue died when it was burnt down by the Crusaders. The following day, Tancred's prisoners in the mosque were slaughtered. Nevertheless, it is clear that some Muslims and Jews of the city survived the massacre, either escaping or being taken prisoner to be ransomed.[91] The Eastern Christian population of the city had been expelled before the siege by the governor, and thus escaped the massacre.[91] If you would like to see a recent example, Iraq was blamed for supporting 9/11 attacks and possessing mass destruction weapons, which was not true. The country was "saved" by US forces in 2003, also eating pork. Until today 600.000 to 1.500.000 people are estimated to lose their lives in Iraq, as an average 900.000. Reconsider eating pork

Just stay away from Mantak Chia books for your own health. The technique you are asking should be practiced with a master preferably in Taiwan or PRC. Not from a book or internet by yourself.

Thank you Jess, The article that I mentioned deeply affected me years ago and taught the lesson that to be a real master is not easy at all.

Dear Snowmonki, Thank you for the post. I would like to give the following link describing the same "soft butter" method: http://underthemoons...ter-method.html When Hakuin enquired about the Soft Butter Meditation practice he had previously mentionned, Master Hakuyū replied : "When a student engaged in meditation finds that he is exhausted in body and mind because the four constituent elements of his body are in a state of disharmony, he should gird up his spirit and perform the following visualization: "Imagine that a lump of soft butter, pure in color and fragrance and the size and shape of a duck egg, is suddenly placed on the top of your head. As it begins to slowly melt, it imparts an exquisite sensation, moistening and saturating your head within and without. It continues to ooze down, moistening your shoulders, elbows, and chest; permeating lungs, diaphragm, liver, stomach, and bowels; moving down the spine through the hips, pelvis, and buttocks. "At that point, all the congestions that have accumulated within the five organs and six viscera, all the aches and pains in the abdomen and other affected parts, will follow the heart as it sinks downward into the lower body. As it does, you will distinctly hear a sound like that of water trickling from a higher to a lower place. It will move lower down through the lower body, suffusing the legs with beneficial warmth, until it reaches the soles of the feet, where it stops. "The student should then repeat the contemplation. As his vital energy flows downward, it gradually fills the lower region of the body, suffusing it with penetrating warmth, making him feel as if he were sitting up to his navel in a hot bath filled with a decoction of rare and fragrant medicinal herbs that have been gathered and infused by a skilled physician." The kidneys are not mentioned in this text although they were mentioned in your text. I wonder the reason of difference between the two texts.

About the origins of Taijiquan, I hope the following article may help: http://www.chinafrominside.com/ma/taiji/TJQorigins.html Also, there are some interesting articles http://www.chinafrominside.com/ma/taiji.html

May be, you may talk to Paul Brecher. He is in North London, at least you may have a phone call with him, he may suggest somebody in Manchester. http://www.taiji.net/acupun.html

I would like to contribute the discussion with the following link: http://www.chinafrominside.com/ma/bagua/machuanxu.html It was the best article about baguazhang I have ever read. There are other interesting articles too. (http://www.chinafrominside.com/ma/bagua.html)