Isimsiz Biri

If you are following negative path, your tolerance is also fake. Your chop suey contains many negative elements. Sorry.

Terma is written by Demons

Meaningless.

Ooo, one more Satanist. Welcome. Tell your master that I will be the winner.

Who are the authors of Terma? Is it so difficult to reply?

Again, no single word about how these "advanced" practitioners do not get any harm from this retreat. If such a result is achievable, then you should apply this two hour sleep all around the year? Just think of it. You are gaining six extra hours everyday in your life? Wouldn't it be nice? If I were an "advanced" student, I would definitely do it. On the contrary, I bet these poor "advanced" students are sleeping for 48 hours continuously after the retreat. I will not reply any more. I have more serious jobs to do.

Nungali, The general theme of that letter is all right. However, it does not fit into historical realities. 1. The letters of Prophet Muhammad always started with Basmala, namely, "Bismi-llāhi r-raḥmāni r-raḥīmIn" In the name of God, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basmala) Please refer to Prophet Muhammad's letters to head of states: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad's_letters_to_the_Heads-of-State) For instance, to the Byzantine (Eastern Roman Empire) Emperor Heraclius, In the name of God the Beneficent, the Merciful: (This letter is) from Muhammad son of Abdullah to Heraclius the Great (ruler) of the Romans (Byzantines). Peace be upon him, he who follows the right path. Furthermore I invite you to submit your will to God; submit your will to God and you will be safe, and God will double thy reward, and if you reject, thou you bear the sins of persecuting Arians. (And I recite to you God's Statement:) (O Muhammad): 'and people of the scripture! Come to a word common to you and us that we worship none but God and that we associate nothing in worship with Him, and that none of us shall take others as Lords beside God. Then, if they turn away, say: 'Bear witness that we are Muslims' (those who have surrendered to God). I just did not observe Basmala in the beginning of the letter you posted. 2. I have never heard Prophet Muhammad sent such a letter in general history of Islam. Besides, I could not find in: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Catherine's_Monastery) Year 628 is one year after Battle of Trench and two years before conquer of Mecca. Mount Sınai is in Egypt which is very far away. Egypt was not under control of Muslims at that date. Egypt has been conquested in 639 - 642 during caliphate Umar. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_conquest_of_Egypt) So, historically, it does not fit too.

Mal Stainkey, Believe me if I report every insult I received, as moderator team you would only read my threads, nothing else. I never attack anybody unless I am attacked. And I respond according to level of attack to me. If somebody reports me, please tell every moderator to read the posts just before my posts. You would see the clear attack on me. For the topic, I really do not know if Vitalii's school is a real lineage or not. I have absolutely no idea. I am not interested at all. By the way, it may be a real lineage too. It does not matter. If you make people to sleep for two hours for 7 - 10 consecutive days, you give harm to them. For the attention of everybody, does Vitalii explain how come his "advanced" students pass this retreat without getting harm? Are some of their chakras open? How? No explanation. I know real masters can make this thing happen, i.e., two hours sleep, but these masters apply it all throughout the year and also it is a very high level. In Vitalii's case, poor attendees sleep normally all throughout the year and then they sleep for two hours for 7 - 10 days. Definitely negative. Definitely. In my opinion, this is an ethical question for mods. Should such an advertisement be allowed in this site or not? I do not know.

Primordial? Written by Demons!

State who wrote Terma as you could not do it.

A typical Sharia level discussion. This will go nowhere. You better continue to stand against organized religion. Islam is different than Mormons or Jehovah's Witnesses or Buddhism because Holy Quran has not been altered at all. So your criticism about organized religion considering others is not valid for Islam. Monasticism does not exist in Islam. Of course there is definition of good and bad. But also, there is a mystical tradition in Islam, not for common people, but for a few selected people. We call it Sufism. I see your Buddhist past also was in Sharia level. Sorry for that. I copied one of my previous posts to explain you the four levels of Sufism. In Sufism, there are four levels: Shari’a (exoteric path), tariqa (esoteric path), haqiqa (mystical truth) and marifa (final mystical knowledge, unio mystica). Please refer to following link: http://en.wikipedia....The_four_stages Shari’a is Islamic law as revealed in the Qur'an and Sunna.[1] The first step in Sufism is following every aspect of the law perfectly. The purpose of this is to prove their love for God, by rigorous self-discipline and constant attention to their conduct. Tariqa in Arabic means "path" and it denotes a Sufi brotherhood or order.[3] The orders are governed by shaykhs, spiritual leaders that mentor Sufis. Shaykhs are identified by the signs of God's grace that are evident, such as the ability to perform miracles.[4] They take on people, usually male, that are committed to the Sufi lifestyle and want to progress further in their spiritual education. Haqiqa is a difficult concept to translate. The book Islamic Philosophical Theology defines it as "what is real, genuine, authentic, what is true in and of itself by dint of metaphysical or cosmic status",[6] which is a valid definition but one that does not explain haqiqa's role in Sufism. Haqiqa may be best defined as the knowledge that comes from communion with God, knowledge gained only after the tariqa is undertaken. Marifat (Arabic: المعرفة‎), which literally means knowledge, is the term used by Sufi Muslims to describe mystical intuitive knowledge of spiritual truth reached through ecstatic experiences, rather than revealed or rationally acquired. 1. Sharia (sacred laws) 2. Tariqa (sacred path) 3. Haqiqa (divine reality) 4. Marifa (gnosis or certain knowledge of God) According to Prophetic tradition (hadith): . Sharia consists of the words of the Prophet Muhammad, upon him be peace, . Tariqa consists of the actions of the Prophet, . Haqiqa consists of the state of the Prophet, and . Marifa consists of the secrets of the Prophet. These four ways are very closely linked together and cannot be separated one from the other. The Kalima (the sacred mantra of Islamic faith, La ilaha illallah) has four meanings according to these four ways. According to Sharia the meaning is: "There is nothing in the world that can be worshipped with certainty except Allah." According to Tariqa the meaning is: "There is none that can do a thing except Allah." According to Haqiqa the meaning is: "There is none who is sought after except Allah." According to Marifa the meaning is: "There is nothing existent except Allah." From sufistic point of view: Sharia is the divine and sacred law of Islam. It makes one distinguish between right and wrong, between forbidden and permissible actions. Tariqa is the beautification of the Sharia' whereby whatever one has understood in Sharia' is made firm in one's heart under strict spiritual discipline. In this stage one has to have complete trust in God and also have lots of patience in whatever condition God keeps him in. This is the stage where one's soul is cleansed to receive God's divine attributes. Haqiqa is the zenith of Spiritual Perfection. In this stage the attributes of God, the Most Perfect begins to manifest itself in one's self. Marifa is the goal to recognise our creator (God), or to become God-conscious in every state and action. In this state, there is no "time-space". Here only purity exists and only the pure can come close to God. In this state the seeker does not forget that he (or she) is still a servant and no matter how high he may progress spiritually he still remains the created and God the Creator. This state cannot be expressed through our very limited human faculties.

Terma is written by Bon Religion Demons.

Mal Stainkey, If somebody calls me my thoughts are gloomy and I see cruel demons in broad daylight, according to you this is not insult? What will you say if I said "Hey, Mal Stainkey, your thoughts are gloomy and you see cruel demons in broad daylight" What would you say? Just a theoretical question, do not take personally. And the very same person is making some innocent people sleep for two hours for seven - ten days to get their money. I was very very very very polite.

I think it is fake.

Nungali, First clean the shame you brought on your Okinawan master and his style .Then talk. As a loser in this life, I know you are searching for care. You better meditate on your own situation.

Nungali, If you think you are funny, go to zoo and feed chimpanzees with peanuts. You will be a good happy team.

Ignored.

It is a science that you can not understand at all. Your terma has been written by anonymous people. Therefore, it is corrupted.

To understand it, you should have a pure heart. With a rusty heart like yours, no school could have been able to teach you about the Creator.

Rationality is the only asset of Westerners in general. This is because you forgot your hearts.

You are daydreaming

I will not let any Westerner to insult my religion. Be careful about your sentences.

"If you are a demon chasing people's money risking their healths, you will definitely face negative results both in this life and other life" Isimsiz Biri

I said I will post three examples from Christianity to your each example from Islam. I know, with your limited knowledge of history, it is not so easy for you. Try it. Make my day.

Good question. I replied before but no problem. First, you have to understand what Nafs is. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nafs) It is not easy to understand it from Wikipedia link. For instance, Nungali can not understand it although he had consulted his Sufi master (???). Second, you must understand the Purification of Nafs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tazkiah) If you pass the first and second stages but you still try to proceed, third, you should buy and read the book "Heart, Self, and Soul: The Sufi Psychology of Growth, Balance, and Harmony" (http://www.amazon.com/Heart-Self-Soul-Psychology-Balance/dp/083560778X) and do the exercises described in the book. Fourth, you may find a real authentic Sufi lineage close to you if you are lucky enough.