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Vitalii, Seems like your getting caught up in kung fu politics... My question for you is "What do teach that is strictly unique to your sect, what would one get from practicing it, and what have you attained from this practice?" Stick to that if the training is valid then the people who vibe with it will come to learn.

Your not at an attainment to reply to me as an expert... Yin chi is universal it exist everywhere it even transends realms. Yin chi is more akin to stillness as there is a yin energy that manifest with stillness meditation.... It builds and stillness and circulates thru currents around the planet like wind. There is a whole spectrum of yin not just a yin chi. like gravity, cold, magnetic fields and so on. Yin chi and Yang chi do share a similarity. Yin Chi does not absorb force it converts that force into yin chi as well. Just as yang chi converts yin chi into yang chi.

Umm earths yin field expands into space..... For Mo Pai meditation it is required to gather yin chi while touching the earth other systems to do not require that. Remember there is thunder and lightning that happens in the clouds and never touches down on earth. There could be systems more akin to a thunder cloud

I wish you luck. You wont learn until you decide to.

I guess its too much to hope for an intelligent accurate response to my post..... that's ok most cant beat me when it comes to things like this.

You talk as if you know but you don't let me ask you this... Out of darkness and light which one would be the illusion of the 2? Well the truth becomes obvious when you bring the 2 together........ its separation that creates the illusion..... So now between you and god which one is real or fake..... RongZomFan, There is a big difference between someone who knows what they are talking about and someone who thinks they know what they are talking about.

Well im just a lowly practitioner with no attainment please tell me in your own words. What is meant by existence is an illusion and that the creator is fake. Do not quote anyone do not name drop just speak your truth that you have experienced that you are now giving testimony to.

You don't know what your saying......Its one thing to quote its another to understand.

Certainly a lot of creatures on this planet for a universe that has no creator...... But we'll just skip that point. When you say there is no creator then ur basically saying nothings exist higher than you....Which feeds the ego but the ego is just a defense mechanism to counter act insecurities. So then I wonder how your meditation is going..... Could it be that your projecting that same disbelief in yourself on to the concept of god?

Gosh I hate douche statements like this....No real depth at all.... Its like saying time isn't real yes everyone says it but few have the insight to say why then did your grandparents exist before you? But lets get back to the topic so the universe is an illusion or god isn't real bs. Fine whatever AGAIN Anyone can say it but very few have the enlightenment to actually know how our existence is illusion like or what is real or unreal about god...

In my opinion neikung is more spiritual than what is currently being discussed. but it being alchemy so go figure Spiritual power and vibronic/electrical power together is a sign of authentic neikung. The cultivated spirit is the real power. but any who I wonder if Jiang and Zhou use yin chi to test their students like John does?

Ahhh I understand....

Prime example of the mods here....

I like what I read and sense about the flying phoenix chikung I used my shen to look at Master Dunn and it was as if he was surrounded by a powerful and dense chi. Flying Pheonix is indeed high level chikung.

More Pie Guy, There is more than one type of yin chi just as there is more than one dimension. Currents of yin chi exist in the universe in outer space flowing thru planets. The sun emits yang chi but has gravity as well.......think on this.

My question is can Zhou and Jiang use yin chi like john to stop a rifle pellet.

Its not a healing its just a non offensive qi its a healing qi. But hey what do I know.....

Btw ive embedded this thread with a healing chi let me know if you can feel it.

Master Zhou gave a good demo. I like the feeling I get from more so than other neikung masters. I like his demo better than Master Jiang's. Is there a video of Master Jiang setting something on fire with his chi? But I still think that john's demo was and still is the most impressive. But I also think john is at a higher level then Zhou and Jiang. John is still the only one to demo of stopping rifle pellets with yin chi..... Are there any students of Jiang or Zhou here that can testify that these 2 masters can use yin chi like John?

Tongkosong, So to better understand your above points are you saying that More Pie Guy should not post about the MoPai at all? And For him to do so is against the Mo Pai wishes?

Well I think moving meditation is required otherwise you could have stagnet chi.

Listening and being honest with yourself and others. Getting to the heart of the issue immediately is genius.

Exp the bickering, trolling and derailment live and in person!!!!!!

Its more like this when you transmute your jing to chi and chi into shen or steam.... is the steam yin or yang? it is a higher state of chi. Which is shen this shen transmutes into the tao chi. You could say at one stage the jing is the elixir at the next stage the chi is the elixir and then the shen. the body follows the chi the chi follows the mind the mind follows the shen the shen follows the tao.

Heaven Yang or supreme yang is highly refined energy. It is energy at a higher state. Like the air which has both properties of fire and water.