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Okay This is my interpretation of "how". Energy get built up in the body from the practices. First the energy targets areas where you have issues (blockages) first and is used for repair. Then after the repairs are done it works its way to the "extras"...like siddhis.

Stay with what Santiago has to offer, he doesn't water down anything. He's been doing what he has been doing for 16+ years and he has probably made it further than most people made it in a lifetime. Also, I've seen the results of his other students since I did one of the KAP classes face-to-face.

I have my own yin and jing (however little) so I have no need for anybody else's. Even external healing to a point seems to be too much trouble since it seems my body doesn't want to take on anybody else's energy. Taking from the unsuspecting has it's own issues to itself. You already seen writings on what health issues these sexual practices gave to Verdesi. Sexual practices are a side road that lead to a dead end. Cultivating for a "parasympathetic vagus nerve climax" or "Immortality" are side roads. The natural process for this plane is birth and death. Cultivating isn't worth it unless I can make it materialize in this world through better virtue, better and more efficient function, or better health.

???? take in female sex energy? Seems like a form of modern day voodoo and vampirism. As best as I understand it, during any kind of period of retention, energy doesn't get differentiated into "sexual energy" and doesn't get used at the reproductive level because there is a sort of a stop there. That energy that doesn't get differentiated into "sexual energy" is used to correct issues in other parts of the body or to correct issues with the mind or psyche. It is wasteful and inefficient for energy in the body to be converted to "sexual energy" and "reconverted" to something higher.

But on the other hand, in discussion or debate concerning social issues or American foreign policy, Vietnam or the Middle East, for example, the issue is constantly raised, often with considerable venom. I've repeatedly been challenged on the grounds of credentials, or asked, what special training do you have that entitles you to speak of these matters. Hmmmmmm... Maybe he should discretely point out that what academia has produced in that field has yet to work. Just the same people parroting the same garbage while getting paid under the table or people with "credentials" and "special training" that deliver results that are unsatisfactory.

No thanks needed I offer my apologies

Thank you. I think that may rule me out totally. I've ran into too many impostors so I'm going to rule out ever listening to any "voice". If the Dalai Lama can be by something like the "Dorje Shugden Controversy" then my chances are almost nil.

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Mikey, You probably won't have to spend very much to get started There is a lot of info on these boards and internet. I sympathize with you, I was raised in a one-parent home during the 80s.

Okay From what I've seen most signs, markers, and abilities are non-denominational. Take for example that: 1. Dr.Morris was practicing Taoist Methods and got Kundalini. 2. Itzak Bentov was practicing Kundalini Yoga and got Taoist Markers and signs: http://www.thetaobums.com/index.php?showtopic=10523 3. One of Santiago's teachers (Pak Muhammad...a Sufi) does the electric healing. With the wealth of stuff online, if a person doesn't run into any problems, they can be cultivating for years.

I know of one way that I actually FELT. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm a person who really, really despises visualization. I can't get it and if I do get to the brainwave state (to include dream state) somebody else hijacks it.

You can try the Inner Smile, the "Robert Peng Way". You can chant your name. Instead of doing it "Name" breath, "Name" breath,... <---this is the Robert Peng Way This is my way -----> Chant your name repeatedly like if you had your own cheerleading section

I think that other practices that Santi suggested might help (try the thin aura thread) say for purification...7x7x7 Figure if you are running with more energy and less obstructions it might help. Check with Santiago though. One suggestion that I saw on the "thin aura" thread, the one about exercise. Don't neglect it, things might a lot easier if I was stable in an exercise regiment THEN started cultivating. One session of cardio a few years back opened a channel in the right side of my brain, down my chest, and I felt a sort of "clean" magnetism in my stomach. cooking the qi might be using the tummo breath that Santiago and Tao teach. Again, check with Santiago. I felt what I think was a "dirty" orbit before since the energy was so hot.

Nevermind, not my biz

I'm also inclined not to believe in it. For all of the literature and talk in other Esoteric Arts about shape-shifting, attachments, and hooks.

All four of them or just the feet? I think I'll really screw myself up if I rub it on my hands, and somehow my hands make it to my eyes

Funny I've had the sleep paralysis thing happen just recently and the feeling of being dragged by my feet too. I even had one striking at my neck when I was stomach down. Let them have their fun now, when it's my turn they won't even know what hit them.

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Thanks man. I'll try that. The Mao Shan people talked about using non-cooperative energy (pain). I'm wondering if exercising to the point of Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness would help. Seems that I attracted more wildlife. What was here before didn't have the habit of doing Darth Vader's "Force Choke" and attacked my liver. I found something that was interesting: http://www.xtrememind.com/Inferno.htm I don't think that it is a good idea because of the Uranium in it. I saw a thread in one of the Myspace Hoshin group pages asking about sending long distance HURTING. I wonder if Santiago could do something like that on all of the air in my bedroom for about 10-15 minutes.

Did you feel to see what part of the body went warm last? Did you try to get him to die with a smile on his face? Did you get anybody to do a phowa for him? All of the stuff might effect where his next destination will be.

Sorry I couldn't let this one pass and I am not going to let it pass either. All they do is feed people drugs that screw them up, put people under an enormous amount of debt, and reduce career prospects (since ailments get documented) with no hope of relief. I already went this route so I know first hand.

Nevermind

Which organization is "SD"?

Please don't associate Dr.Hata with PH Toledo. From the times that I have talked to PH Toledo, he has never mentioned Dr.Hata or Mister Lum. I don't call them Sifu or SiJo. That, I feel, is a privilege for the students that have been admitted to their Lineage. I don't think he needs permission...who would you rather see "handle" the situation, Mister Moon or Dr.Hata? I prefer that the conversation remain civil. Civility and courtesy are things that are freely given. Respectfulness and sincerity are things that are earned...maybe even painstakingly.

No, it doesn't. I lost a lot of weight doing a lot of deep breathing but I still lost a lot of conditioning. When I used to exercise, I gauged my progress by how bad I felt (Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness). The worse I felt (short of broken bones, sprains, or strains), the better the results.