SaiyaMan

Decided to post this here, since many can't view the PPD without signing up, and some may find this useful (I hope!) _____________________________ The two schools I have been practicing so far are: LoneMan Pai (www.Lonemanpai.com) Xaio Yao Pai (www.studytaoism.com - USA. www.esoterictaoism.com - Europe) LoneMan Pai is a combination of Eastern Internal Alchemy and Western Magick, where all religious doctrines are stripped away and the info made as scientific as possible. It is the oldest AND most modern system out there. Xiao Yao Pai My experience from practicing the two have led me to believe that they both have common roots and compliment eachother very well (to the point where the FFS suggests techniques from LMP). Tai Shang Lao Jun may have created Xiao Yao Pai and it's practices as an offshoot of an older, Enochian school. I say this based on two things: 1) From experiences not long after being initiated into XYP (prior to practicing LMP), several times I would wake in the middle of the night to see unusual writings engraved with a bright blue energy-like light on the ceiling. I later found this writing to be Enochian, a language I had never heard of until SoTG pointed me in that direction. 2) After learning about the Enochian language from above, I looked up the alphabet and was able to translate the password given at the XYP initiation. This password translation is one of the reasons for the following posts.

I have practiced a few systems, but have found LoneMan Pai to be the most potent so far. No initiation required, and you get only what you put in! Transmissions are held quite often but they are always optional. At Lonemanpai.com, there's A LOT of material. Almost every aspect of internal training and physical training is covered. There's also many advanced practitioners who have a ton of knowledge. All the dogma and nonsense has been cut out, so all you get is very efficient techniques that get results fast and safe. Its the most scientific system in existence imo. Everyone that joins is encouraged to keep a log to ensure safety and proper development. Plus, everything has always been and always will be free. Here's one of my threads that may be useful to you: http://thedaobums.com/topic/38503-my-discoveries-loneman-pai-xiao-yao-pai/ Good luck!

My post on this thread *might* be of use to you thedaobums.com/topic/19524-ttc-study-chapter-52-of-the-tao-teh-ching/page-6 Ime, it is a part of the whole process

Hey Jeff, No, I've never felt FFS take control of my body without permission (such as inviting FFS for Dao Yin Shu). There are moments during the day where I'm 'nudged' to do something one way instead of the other, e.g. looking for family members outside, and accidentally finding them in the most unexpected places. Whether this is FFS or my own intuition, it's hard to tell. Efficiency is what motivates me. XYP states that they connect you to a divine teacher from the start that trains you 1-on-1, which I had experienced the night after initiation. SoTG demonstrated both in video and in private conversations (telling me stuff he couldn't have known) which showed the power he had developed, and then after practicing his methods for a short time (the first session) I was able to see extremely fast results, experiencing things I've heard others talk about reaching after 10 years of practice! IME, LoneMan Pai is like the Jeet Kune Do of neidan; it strips away the dogma and fluff, providing only what works and room for you to make it yours.

FlowConduit wrote: My response: Not at all. I was spending a lot of time reading, studying and collecting practices, never really happy/satisfied with what I found. FFS just wanted me to get out my head and use what I learnt by training. Now I've stopped searching, just practicing what I have learnt and continue to learn from LoneMan pai. Fufashen seems content since then

Another way FFS communicates is images. Not so much for your eyes to see, but more like telepathy - direct to your brain (if that makes sense). Here is an example of when it happened to me: After my regular LMP practices, I thought to do the XYP Jing Zuo in bed a little before I went to sleep. Out of nowhere, a very clear image appeared in my mind of a teapot pouring water into a cup that was placed on a tray. It kept on overflowing with water and the teapot wouldn't stop pouring. I played along, incase it was my imagination, I said "alight, my cup is full so I can't take anything else?", for the lulz I then said "how about I get a bigger cup?" Then an image of a huge cup appeared with water being poured into it. The more water that went into the cup, the wider and taller the cup would be. Meaning whatever I gain/learn, I'll never be satisfied, constantly wanting more. "alright.. how about I drink whats in the cup?" meaning, using/applying what I've learnt. The feeling of someone smiling came over me. Like when someone smiles at you and you can't help but smile back at them and feel good. That sort of smile. It was very unusual but really enjoyable. I was a few minutes into the Jing Zuo when it happened, so I was in a completely aware/non-trance state.

Thanks Effi Unfortunately she hasn't been practicing, so no results to speak of yet.

Here is one of my experiences of communicating with FFS. I'll use the example I mentioned above of FFS suggesting a LMP technique: After a standing meditation session (I used LMP techniques "Star-God" and "Quantum Cannibal" (it isn't as scary as it sounds lol)), I decided to do Dao Yin Shu. Whilst standing, I invited FFS, placed my hands in prayer position and waited. My pelvis suddenly tilted upwards and my knees bent, it was completely out of my control and a real surprise. I asked if I should go into horse stance, I got no response. Then I asked whether I should go into goat stance, still nothing. Finally, when asked if I should do Star-God position, suddenly a huge power appeared between my palms. Something I hadn't felt before. It was like that magnetic field feeling you'd get between your palms, but on steroids x50. I stayed calm and asked again, just to confirm. The same power field appeared between my palms. This was a confirmation from FFS to continue with the LMP techniques, and it was the first time I made contact in a non-trance state. To say it was incredible would be an understatement

Apeiron&Peiron posted: My response: Hey Apeiron&Peiron! Interacting with Fu Fa Shen is unusual. I'm naturally skeptical of things, so when I do communicate with it I'm very cautious, so that it isn't my imagination or placebo-effect. There is a huge difference between your body doing movements that can be perceived as Dao Yin Shu & when FFS actually moves you, and between internal dialogue & genuinely speaking to FFS. I'll make a couple posts with my experiences communicating with FFS. As for what you have experienced, there may be two reasons: 1) This is the theory I heard when studying psychology at University (I might be a little off, it's been a while): When your brain processes memories, it takes them from your short-term memory and places it into the long-term. When you remember something, your brain retrieves the memory from the long-term memory and back to the short-term for you to recall. What happens during those deja vu moments is your brain is some-how taking what you see and skipping the short-term memory, placing it directly into the long-term memory, then your brain retrieves it from the long-term memory and back into the short-term, so it feels like you've seen/experienced that exact moment before. Basically, a brain glitch/lag. 2) If you were able to write down what you saw and then it occurs in the future, making the above theory incorrect in this case. Since time is non-linear, and their are many fractured selves on different dimensions/timelines, who may be ahead of you/older or behind you/younger. For you to see something that is year or 15 years ahead of you may mean you are seeing through the eyes of an alternate self, where that time (15years ahead) is current for them. Just theories lol

From what I can remember from the initiation, the masters response to the question "can two people have the same Fu Fa Shen?" was "No, everyone has their own and cannot share". His response falls perfectly in-line with the LMP view of the higher-self (which is a self on an alternate timeline/dimension who is more advanced along 'the path') At the initiation, Tai Shang Lao Jun doesn't assign a FFS to you, but instead, makes a connection between you and an advanced self from another timeline, to prepare your body(s) for merging. Depending on your level, you can assume the role as the Fu Fa Shen or 'higher-self' to your 'lower-self(s)'. I have experienced this on two different occasions.

Both have the similar-ish end-goals but their ways towards it differ, making them to be powerful in different ways: LMPs objective is on being the 'focal point' of the fractured selves/bodies, where you cultivate and merge all the fractal selves into this one. I believe XYP has the same aim of merging all fractal selves/bodies into one, but do not put the focus on making this self the focal point. Instead, XYP builds and prepares *this* self to be merged with the other/higher self/focal point.

My results have been this: -Haven't been ill (not even the common cold) for a few years. -Seeing energy -The LDT and MDT visibly pulsating (my partner could see and touch them as they pulse on the surface of the skin) -Laogong points go red after good sessions -Visions when i wake up in the night after practicing -Extremely powerful "lucid dreams" (i prefer to call it 'jumping') - Ability to heal, (non-placebo, participants were complete skeptics) - 'seeing' health issues in people -communicating with "higher selves" -Being the "higher self" Will add any others I might've left out

SonOfTheGods, a very VERY advanced practitioner, says that one should refrain from masturbation, but one shouldn't restrict themselves of sex entirely. Having sex every couple weeks is good, especially if both you and your partner cultivate! For more info on LoneMan Pai's view of sex and masturbation, you can make an account and view these two threads: LoneMan Pai™- Sex Life Masturbation Brings Monsters Photos and videos(doesn't require an account): Chi Force Field = Photograph & Video Proof Enjoy

You have to sign up to access them, which takes a minute and is completely free. All that's asked in return is your participation. There's 3 pages of practical info on that thread alone, and a lot more in the winrars(which can be downloaded on the first page at www.lonemanpai.com

Kundalini has been heavily discussed in the winrars at LoneManPai.com. Once such thread is Kundalini Happens When Jing is Compromised.

Welcome!

I've always been short-sighted but never made an effort to wear glasses. When I did, everything looked like it was in superHD - but I'd get a headache after a while. A few days ago I looked out the window and to my amazement, everything was as clear as when I would wear glasses! Nothing about my internal training had changed dramatically. I only swapped one technique that works with the Lower Dan Tian for another that works with it (LDT - Organ // Form for LoneMan Pai Cannibal). Whether it was changing the technique that corrected it or an increase in 'juice' corrected it, I don't know. So, yes, internal practices can improve your eyesight. But it really depends on whether what you're practicing is potent enough

I believe you missed the point I was trying to make with that quote. Hopefully this will get my point across better "Absorb what is useful, discard what is useless and add what is specifically your own". There are efficient and inefficient techniques. Bruce stripped away the useless movements and gathered those that worked. It depends on the individual to use what technique when, and the direction the individual can take the fight. This is expressing themselves. Meaning every individual person has their own unique way of expressing the techniques.. The techniques are the same for everyone, but their preference/use of it differs. Some prefer stand-up fighting and some prefer grappling. It is the strict following of a single style/system is what Bruce Lee was against. Learning just one art is inefficient, even if they master that way of fighting, the person will be severely lacking in other areas, making them weaker when it comes to combat. As for the cats... Does a Siamese cat run differently to a Persian cat? Or a domestic cat to a big cat? No. They're structurally the same. Does a white baby crawl differently to a black baby? Or an English baby to a Scottish baby? No. Crawling is crawling.. You won't find one group of babies naturally crawling in the bridge position. They may have their individual differences when it comes to crawling, but it's fundamentally the same. When it comes to walking, it starts out the same, but as they grow, their environment causes them to take on a different style of walking. The babies aren't influenced by anything when it comes to moving. 100% natural and efficient. Styles/systems takes the person away from 'natural doing'. It isn't about breed/race. If we're structurally the same, then what works and what's efficient will be the same. Sheeesh . . .

Like others have said, it depends on what you want. If your aim is "immortality", being able to heal is just one of the things you'll learn to do along the way, if you train diligently. As for mixing systems, some fit and some don't. You should only experiment when you've gotten to a point where you can see the effects, then you can safely combine systems/methods. I believe the above quote applies to the subtle/energy body too. You can take what works from other systems that benefits you, or follow a single system that might give you limited development. But if you don't know what works, how can you mix? That is why a solid foundation is needed. I have seen great results using the LoneMan Pai healing techniques, but without the flux needed you can't expect much out of the healing sessions. I'll eventually make a "LMP Healing Log" to record my results!

When I was younger, it was called "skying"

I believe qigong should could be done during anything. After a few months of cultivating, I was having spontaneous 'walking qigong', where I would experience intense and regular vibrating at my mingmen whilst going down the street. It felt like a mobile phone set on vibrate was ringing in my backpack! I even checked my bag a few times to make sure there wasn't one in there lol We have walking/running qigong at LoneMan Pai, which requires practicing 3 preliminary techniques, before moving onto the actual walking qigong. It's a little complex at first glance, but eventually, it'll become as easy as.. well, walking Link: LoneMan Pai™- Walking / Running Gong

The body needs water, especially if you're doing any form of cultivation. Just incase you haven't heard of them, Intermittent Fasting and the "Eat-Stop-Eat" fasting methods are great. You'll find this thread very valuable: http://lonemanpai.com/thread/353/loneman-pai-diet

My preferred version is translated by Stephen Addiss and Stanley Lombardo: Wearing my neidan hat, this is my understanding: The world has one source: the world's mother. I'd like to refer to chapter 4 for a moment: "Tao is empty -- Its use never exhausted. Bottomless -- The origin of all things" mother = the source = Tao = empty and bottomless Once you have the mother, I'm counting on the "Glossary of Chinese words" at the back of the book here. "have" = "be" "Once you be the mother"? Or "Once you be empty/bottomless"? I think he may be referring to that "whoa where did I just go" experience in meditation. This may be the "have the mother". You know the children. the children are created by the mother. From Wuji (1) comes Taiji (2) Our [subtle] body(s) are in the realm of Taiji I believe he is hinting that reaching stillness/emptiness allows you to "know" or "connect" with the energies (the children) that build the subtle body(s) Once you know the children, I believe he is referring to any form of internal training that opens up the channels to allow the "children" to flow well, to the point that they can be directed/manipulated/felt. Return to the mother. Back to stillness/emptiness meditation __________________________ IMO, I think lines 2 to 5 describe how to structure your practice. Empty -> Active -> Empty As for the rest... not sure yet

Religious ≠ Awakened Prayer ≠ decrease in energetic blockages Bruce Lee did indeed study Taoism, and he did practice Tai Chi & meditation in his younger years. However, his understanding on the energy side of things isn't the same. For example, he believed that breathing into the lower dantian meant you could lower the center of gravity to change positions faster. He also advises against putting your mind in the lower abdomen. He talks about it on page 169 of "The Tao of Gung Fu", the page is titled "The Question of Psychic Center".

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