Nungali

Typical that you cant own what you do and project it on to someone else . I started a thread on Chaos magick and your Christian perspective could not deal with it so you started spamming, interrupting , and talking weird Christian shit and Jurrasic park claims and all sorts of nonsense that numerous people, not just me, pointed out to you . You are obviously trying to disrupt and mock discussion on a subject you dont like . Now others probably have no more interest in the thread YOU barged into and filled with your crap . Was that your aim ?. yet now it is me that is spamming, being incomprehensible and 'baffling ' Lets have a little review : First you claimed Chaos Magick was a spin off from Jurassic Park . Then you claimed Jurassic park appeared in 1990 and claimed there was no record of Chaos magick before 2000 and then claimed JP influenced CM although they pretend it doesnt . Then its pointed out you are wrong and shown CM started in 1970s Then when I suggested you might start at Wikipedia to get an into into what Chaos Magick is, you stated that pop culture and movies are a better source of information. Then you refuted the dates above , although admitting Chaos magic was earlier than Jurassic Park but became more popular afterwards ( with no evidence whatsoever , just argumentative attempted justification to try and hold up your random statements and supposins .) Then it was pointed out you read the dates wrong as they didnt even pertain to what you claimed , it was the date the article was written . Then you claimed that is what people say when they cant admit influence from dinosaur movies ... which actually means that if its pointed out you made a mistake reading a date the wrong way , that is other people's fault that are doing a cover up . Then you stated you dont care if what you claimed is true or not you got a laugh out of it ( that is you laughed at your own false claims ) and said 'that is all that matters ' . Then you started with the 'trust in the Lord ' thing . . . for some reason . Then quoted the Bible about not relying on your own understanding . Then you claimed that was 'basic evolution ' . ???? Then encouraged us to follow Noah's Ark example . Then state others dont want to be saved so its better to focus on yourself . Then claimed everything people are unhappy about could have been changed 20 years ago. Then you compared Israelite's in the Bible with doing the same thing that people do today with smart phones and 'teslas' . Then you claimed 12 year old kids would not think my responses were 'smart ' , said I was spamming and straw manning ( the 2nd , yes I was , as there is no rational points or arguments to counter , just to point out how bizarre your approach and lack of connectivity in what your write is ) Then declare you are baffled by my stance here . My stance here was to discuss chaos and supposed non chaos magic . Your stance here ? Actually I feel confident in declaring many Daobums dont have a froarkin clue what your stance is and why you are here .... on the whole Daobums site . As this is a pattern you exhibit all over the site . So like others have ... its probably best to ignore you .

An empty unspecified claim .... again ! Its the new 'look after yourself ' redaction . Well of course as everyone has some knowledge . All humans do . I suppose you are thinking of some special privileged or level of knowledge that makes some 'better ' than others . Is that a serious question ..... to someone that has said they study anthropology . Its getting weirder , since you have constantly been arguing silly and irreverent things yourself with people here that offer facts from science and technology . So I would say you and these 'people' ( whoever they are , aside from you ) are in the minority while the others , which all of a sudden have become invisible to you or ceased to exist, are in the majority . Perhaps like me , they never saw such evidence of power and reality ? No it isnt 'the same way ' - there you go with those bizarre 'Biblical comparisons ' again . Go on then . Like your leader over there ? .

which is all aside from the the question you asked and the proof I offered .

Did you ask their permission first ? Maybe if you didnt, thats why he got angry .

The people I helped save were grateful . It seems you have had a different experience and assume somehow that must apply to me as well . But its also probably that , I actually help save them from accidents or death or precarious situations , or being outcast , not having shelter or support , etc . Maybe you were proselytizing at them ie 'saved' in that 'unique' Christian sense . Then its probably not a case of them 'not wanting to be saved ' , but wanting you to stop trying to convert them to your own belief system No, I didnt find that either , again, they were grateful for the meager support I could give them . There is that 'thyself' again . Nothing like 'good old fashioned Bible speak ' to drive a point home However , it is an unusual 'sense' for one who claims to follow the teaching of Jesus Luke 10:30 ' In reply Jesus said: “A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, when he was attacked by robbers. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him and went away, leaving him half dead. 31 A priest happened to be going down the same road, and when he saw the man, he passed by on the other side. 32 So too, a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side. 33 But a Samaritan, as he traveled, came where the man was; and when he saw him, he thought too bad buddy .... I'm lookin after myself ! . “Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?” The expert in the law replied, “The one who focused on himself .” Jesus told him, “Go and do likewise.” That is for a reason and there is a remedy .

Dr John Dee : John Dee's most accurate prediction was Elizabeth I's coronation date of January 15, 1559. Tiresais : Tiresias's most accurate prediction is likely his prophecy to Oedipus that he would "see" the truth of his life, which would lead him to scream in agony. This is considered his most accurate because it was so precise about the tragic events in Oedipus Rex that came to pass. He accurately foresaw the horrifying truth of Oedipus's identity as a murderer of his father and husband to his mother, a discovery that drove Oedipus to blind himself. The Oracle of Amun ( at Siwa Oasis ) : Considered accurate enough that Alexander the Great sought advice there. Also King Cambyses of Persia consulted about his African campaign .... seeking the same confirmation of 'divine right and kingship' that Alexander got ... but Oracle said no . No one wants to hear a 'fake prediction like that ! Also it undermined his 'legitimacy' to rule Egypt , so .... Cambyses dispatched an army of 50,000 soldiers from Thebes with orders to attack the Siwa Oasis, enslave the Ammonians (priests and inhabitants), and burn the temple of the Oracle. The army, however, famously disappeared in the desert, a fate often attributed to a massive sandstorm. Intuition ; figures like Srinivasa Ramanujan are frequently cited for their exceptional intuitive grasp of mathematics, while Albert Einstein is noted for his intuitive leaps in physics, which sometimes contradicted a more rational approach favored by contemporaries like John von Neumann .

Juicy ! Have you read it ? ( I'll tackle it later )

That is why we learn off others as well and learn from different sources other than some weird mix of Bible and pop culture . Like Historians , archaeologists , Lamas , Monks , Buddhas , our peers , friends and those with actual experience . AND if we 'know how to learn' that then becomes 'one's own knowledge ' .... so , what is one actually 'leaning on ' ? Save ....... thyself .... So , why did ..... thyself ..... do it then ? Why did you 'lean on' your own understanding' that Jurassic park influenced Chaos Magick when a flotilla of actual influences were presented to you ?

But what happened to the cars they drove out into the desert in ?

One is to partake of those rites .... but need not understand , well, anything . Its the 'christian refuge' when out of their depth in religious conversation , ie, logic and reason are tools of the devil ... to tempt one away from 'faith in God' . The original idea was probably 'dont try to understand God ' .... not 'dont try to understand anything ' . .. it takes a 'special sort of Christian ' to make that leap from one to the other

What is going on with you is what you posted . Its one of your mottos and you posted it when you got stuck in the corner of your own argument that turned out to be silly and irrational .... to wit : Proverbs 3;5 that is Dont lean on your own understanding but trust the Lord with all your heart ... that is ; dont try to understand just trust the Lord .... which is what you do and claim to do But when you point it out you dont even seem to know what you yourself are saying . ( thats something 'going on with you' as well . )

So that is what is going with you !

and ... so ? Are you implying Jurassic Park was a government set up to get people interested in Chaos Magick Except those types would be you , wouldn't they ? Yes, he would laugh his head off at your 'logic' and 'research' . Yes. and the above nonsense made me laugh too ! Here is another laugh from Crowley for you ( although, of course, they never had TV back then , so ..... ): Old Mother Hubbard, who goes to the cupboard to get her dog a bone is perhaps one of those tales. "Who is this ancient and venerable mother of whom it is spoken? Verily she is no other than Binah, as is evident in the use of the holy letter H with which her name begins. "Nor is she the sterile Mother Ama -- but the fertile Aima; for within he she bears Vau, the son, for the second letter of her name, and R, the penultimate, is the Sun, Tiphareth, the Son. "The other three letters of her name, B, A, and D, are the three paths which join the supernals. "To what cupboard did she go? Even to the most secret caverns of the Universe. And who is this dog? Is it not the name of God spelt Qabalistically backwards? And what is this bone? The bone is the Wand, the holy Lingam! "The complete interpretation of the rune is now open. This rime is the legend of the murder of Osiris by Typhon. "The limbs of Osiris were scattered in the Nile. "Isis sought them in every corner of the Universe, and she found all except his sacred lingam..." Little Bo Peep:"Bo" is the root meaning Light, form which spring forth such words as Bo-Tree, Bodhisattva, and Buddha. "And "Peep" is Apep, the serpent Apophis. THis poem therefore contains the same symbol as that in the Egyptian and Hebrew Bibles." "The snake is the serpent of Initiation, as the Lamb is the Saviour. "This ancient one, the Wisdom of Eternity, sits in its old anguish awaiting the Redeemer. And this holy verse triumphantly assures us that there is no need for anxiety. The Saviours will come after the other, at their own good pleasure, and as they may be needed, and drag their tails, that is to say those who follow out their holy commandment, to the ultimate goal."

... and 'somehow' you think this is some type of proof that Chaos Magick came about due to Jurassic Park Hoooooooooo - boy !

A Dialogue Between Carlos Castaneda and Coby Carlos ; '' The basic difference between an ordinary man and a warrior is that a warrior takes everything as a challenge while an ordinary man takes everything as a blessing or curse .'' Coby ; < deleated > Carlos ; '' A man lives by acting , not by thinking about acting .'' Coby ; < deleated > Carlos ; '' WE either make ourselves miserable or we make ourselves strong . The amount of work is the same . '' Coby ; < deleated >

I just read the wiki article on that film ... JEEZE those two made a mess of that ritual ..... added weird stuff and let their base natures interfere with the working . A sometimes common occurrence ! AND I am not surprised ..... this ritual is a DUD ! IMO .... a sacred operation invoking God by prayer and your Holy Guardian angel , resulting in making talismans to cause war , raise the dead , find treasure ... see naked maidens etc . ... and these 'talismans' and results are part of the original text ( in both the German and French versions ) - not later additions .

No . I haven't had spam in a while .

Yes, thats right .... all the dynamics that made chaos magic appear and grow in popularity are non existent .... it was all due to Jurassic Park ...... because you think so .

How do you mean 'better ' ? Constantly , as you use them for references , numerous people here have pointed out how your ' harvested knowledge ' from them is either down right wrong or based on fantasy .

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and Chaos Magick appeared in mid 1970s You really need to give up on this ' learning ' from silly pop movies and gaming thing you do . Why would they want to 'pretend' that ... even if you were right ?

Dont be to sure .... I am sure our Homer here is familar with the concept ... sometimes Chaos gets tired of Chaos and longs for some control ;

... and of course one can pursue it '' academically '' , regardless of whether it happened to you or I naturally or coincidentally . And although not many personal accounts exist , there is a lot of historical and modern writing about the concepts involved .

No, its nothing like that . Although it might be for you . is it 'spiritual awareness ' or 'innocence ' or ' NOT being obscured ' ... or perhaps even NOT having a dose of ; '' a lack of clarity or insight, particularly regarding one's understanding of an object or emotion.[1] (2) The mental hindrances or veils that cloud understanding and perception, preventing one from seeing the true nature of things.[ '' .