Nungali

You mean like the first degree Freemason penalty '' ... and having my throat cut across and my tongue torn out '' 'Symbolic meaning ' of course

No problem .... I do it here all the time, several posters got this from me over the years ;

It does ? I must have missed those wiggly red lines under my clumsy typing

No , related but not the same . ANE is a component that contributed to the others including Baikal . Baikal admixture describes the complex and dynamic population history of the Lake Baikal region itself. The ancient populations around Lake Baikal were often mixtures of ANE ancestry and Ancient Northeast Asian (ANA) or other East Asian-related populations at various times. For instance, Early Bronze Age individuals from this region had high ANE levels (around 72%), while others had more ANA ancestry. This region is also considered a potential location where the ANE population mixed with ancient East Asians to form the ancestral gene pool of Native Americans. So ... we could even speculate it 'generated ' influence ( and one being a way to 'consider' continued survival in environment) in western, eastern and Native Americans 'ways' . 'Euro DNA ' is a term thats hard to answer about . Obviously some of those people look like modern Euros, Russians and Siberians . The ANE component is related through the ancient Siberian peoples where some 'Euro appearance ' comes from but they are genetically east Asian not European

Yes. It is not related to any other language we know of . It probably contains new concepts and ideas within it and is sometimes called 'a unique linguistic treasure ' . No wonder it is unique as part of its evolution is from the Paleo - Siberian languages which contain isolates as well . [ The term "Paleo-Siberian" is a geographic grouping for several ancient, unrelated language isolates and small families, including Yeniseian, Yukaghir, Nivkh, and Chukotko-Kamchatkan. It is possible that other now-extinct languages from these groups were spoken in the Baikal region during different periods. ] So it seems another stream to add to my research on the fascinating Lake Biakal area . I made a mistake in the OP .... admixture with people from Tibet and lake Bikal came before sea rise isolation ( of course ) .

Well, of course the tables eventually turned on her (after she insanely and abusively 'responded ' to me about it ) . It was about her cat hunting and killing wildlife ... another breech, we have a no cats rule ( and you have to understand the situaion regarding that in Australia to know why . Now, its come to light they have caught protected fauna ( native brush turkeys ) and had them for dinner and then ... wait for it .... posted on social media about it . That caused an outcry and reports to NPWS ( national parks and wildlife services ) . A Ranger came to visit , very upset , but she is currently OS . Her bf ( equally a dick ) admitted to the eating but not the catching and killing ( that is the offence apparently ) and they will not admit to that . A member here is head of the local environment center . She has pointed out in an official letter to the commune authority ( a non-for profit pty ltd ) outlining her breeches of company policy and calling the directors to act on it . But they are now a hopeless bunch ... and used to, until recently , included this 'problem woman ' .

Ohhhhh ... talismans - now I get you . I worked in the field professionally ; bio-dynamic preparations assistant and ( then later for a while ) maker and distributor . Many people seemed to think it did ( it also helps their environment ) . A few times I had talked to 'normal / straight' professional farmers who livelihood depended on it - they seemed to think it improved things . In the home front ( veggie and orchid gardening ) some of the more simple uses have been obvious for decades . One simple example I have found myself is , regarding weeding , it can be difficult and often the plant breaks leaving the roots (and regrowth ) behind if not dug out . But if you do it during the waning Moon when Moon is in an earth sign , the whole plant and root comes out so much easier ... as if the soil is loosened and the plant 'lets go ' . For seed raising the 48 hrs leading up to the Full Moon . I did experiments a few times , to do it other times you waste a lot of seed and you also get better robust and healthier plants germinated from seed before the Full Moon . On the 'negative ' side eg ; pest elimination , depending on the type, for example an animal , you would use things like retrograde Venus in an appropriate sign as the timing .

t gets worse ; some newage dickwit here on the commune wants me to forgive her ( for harming native animals ) .. while she is still doing it and intends to do it in the future !

and there you have it folks ! ^ How we used to organize things and meet up ..... before mobile phones, social media and the internet !

Like I said ; first step on the path - a probationer or minerval , certainly not an adept at this stage . yep ... 'step right off the cliff' with no support . What you do ( probably ) is supply that barking dog ... and can 'wing it ' I used to keep a record of entrants and those I considered successful ; I think about 35 came in and maybe 4 found success . Hmmm ... maybe your 22 A is the Fool at the end ? Start as the Fool , go through the cycle and end as the Fool ( but with a 'difference' ) Yet is the most uncommon of human 'virtues' . Not always so, in my observations ... some ( a very few ) have gone (after developments NOT in a school ) straight to R+C level * and work in various fields of healing with special natural abilities . * a type of equivalent to Bodhisattva

By a duck pond . I am glad you thought my post was funny up there . I also posted it on my history forum amidst all sorts of serious joyful traditional corny Christmas music that people were posting and it got two likes ! as if some didnt see any discrepancy in what I wrote and the 'music ' anyway here is another 'Viking ' favorite ( an oldie but a goodie ) Viking birthday song .... sing it to your friends on their special day

and the illustration for that part

Well, one use is to know the best timing for when to do certain rituals , but since you dont do ritual , what sort of things do you use it for ? I used to use parts of astrology ... and planetary movement for agriculture , particularly certain Moon rhythms , including Moon opposition Saturn, sidereal , synodic , tropical ,apogee-perige, cycles I also had a big chart I used to track things on .... Moon crossing equator seems significant , and Lunar nodes , traditionally all agricultural work suspended , etc . .

Eh ? You used astrological timing to decide when to read certain books about magick ? Okay ... I suppose that makes sense .

I think the end thing is a jizz . After more research, the justification seems to be when one does the first part and gets K&C of HGA after all that arising to Holy heights , one becomes morally superhuman . After forcing AI to go down the paths of my commands ( if ya cant force spirits , you can still force AI ) and demanding in depth justification on this the view given was ( taking two of the examples ; Such a pure being will then not be disturbed by dancing girls , nor feel lust or ( whatever ) but will just appreciate art and beauty . I asked why not just go around and appreciate other types of art and beauty . The invocation of the dancing girls then is not a test .... tis sort of a demonstration of your purity ( ) and the power trips , causing destruction ? Well only a pure or enlightened being can wield that power justly ... they know who the enemy is and the bad people and would only destroy them . ( Ri i i ght ! we seen that one before ! ... the enemy is obviously the Swedes ! or is it the Bavarians .... Irish ? ... people with dark hair ? Anyone not Christian ... or the right sect of Christian ... etc ' Gold breast plates and armor ? Whats with that ? Do you think its some kind of aureola ? For me , at most , these beings ( and the classic 'angel with wings ) seem to have a function where they are 'closed over' , either with the wings depicted as folding over them or an orb or egg shape they appear in, being able to open or close . This 'casing' has various names in tradition ; Depending on the specific shape and tradition, this enclosing casing may be called: Mandorla: An almond-shaped or oval aureola that frames the whole figure. It is one of the most common ways to depict an angel or divine being completely enclosed in a radiant frame, especially in Byzantine and Medieval art. Vesica Piscis: A specific geometric shape (the intersection of two circles) used to create the mandorla that "encloses" the figure. Glory: A term sometimes used to describe the combination of a head halo and a body aureola, together forming a complete radiant casing around the individual. Velificatio: In some classical and Renaissance art, this refers to a piece of fabric or a "casing" of drapery that arches or folds over a figure in a billowing, enclosing manner. If you are referring to a biblical description of an angel's own physical features, Seraphim are described as having six wings, with four of them used to "fold over" and cover their entire bodies (their faces and their feet) for protection or modesty in the presence of God.

... which leads me onto ...... why do it all in the first place ? Try , from 30:00 onwards below ( the more I hear these guys talk, the more I want to listen to . many interesting points are discussed in the whole video - and show some 'east meets west' traditions and work .

.... so even AI admits its okay not to be ok

a question for AI or anyone that uses it like the above 'production' ; When you make a video ... why not show an actual video recording of what happened .... instead of one picture with a verbal story ???? Wanna have some fun ? Ask AI these series of questions ; '' Do you hallucinate ? answer ; blah blah blah ... then '' Are you hallucinating now ? '' and then '' How do you know you are not ?'' and then ''But that could be an hallucination too .'' - and so on . - the answers might surprise you

and I liked it when you posted it before too ... Nothing like a gopher tuna ! Actually, if I went to an orchestra choir performance and they sang those words .... a bit like a catholic high Mass Everyone gets a vovo biscuit ! (or some gopher tuna )

Random Latin in the head most of it has finally evaporated . But you get a LOT of that if you where a little catholic kid in church back 'then' ... long gruelling painful Mass in Latin .... ( ''Whats that guy doing up there ... what is he saying ? Now he is making one of those 'air crosses' over us and telling us to dominate ' vov-vo biscuits ' ? an iced vo-vo biscuit and we were supposed to say ' we will come and spit on you ' ( Priest ; '' "Dominus vobiscum" People ; '' "Et cum spiritu tuo" )

So , you school doesnt study tarot that much then ? Nor see the significance of an origin in 0 ( the Fools actual arcana 'number' ) ? (For those that doent understand , in magic the Fool represents the first step into magical 'cultivation ' and in a group would be symbolized by the Probationer, Neophyte or Minerval titles . In my experience this is incorrect ... some 'come here ' as 'naturals ' without much teaching needed , maybe a bit of realization and adjustment . While some others might get all your describe and fail miserably ... leading me to assume , some 'proclivity ' (at least ) might be required . OR one might say , you need the right 'make up' ( which can be checked on a natal chart ) . I realize my information might radically differ from some , but I dont run any type of school , nor require students, chelas members or their fees . going into my personal funds . Written in a post, you mean Not all of them , and a lot of that was there in the beginning and practice 'bought it up ' . I can agree with the last paragraph . he is definitely a 'loner' .

he still has a site active ? I'd like to see a list of where he lifted ( working ) stuff from . . . if you already made one . I wonder if he ever pops back here for a peek ?

Hi Sawan . How were you 'in ' ceremonial magic ? Did you practice it and if so what ; what forms or rites or rituals did you do? Was the astrology used in conjunction with that ( to decide 'when' to specific rituals or processes ) or for other purposes ?

everything is not perfect ..... down at Bondi beach

regardless if we are the only planet with religion or not and if one one wants to believe Zachariah Sitchen or not , who cant even read the original documents he 'translates' , ( and I fail to see how that answers your question or helps you in any way ) .... It is thought it was a response to the need of early humans seeking meaning to observations and personal and shared experiences. The first signs seem to be burial rituals that enclosed artifacts . Then we evidence of animism and shamanism . Then there seems an organisation and structure of polytheism and later 'organised religion' were gods , stories , ancestral heroes , myths and social function and law * . It can be seen this parallels the development of human society and is linked in with the need to explain 'how the world works' , how communities are bonded and how we cope with the issue of death . * In many cases the word we translate into 'religion' from other older languages is 'law' or a similar idea . Judaism (Halaka) and actually Judaeo-Christian religion's fundamental teaching is encapsulated in 10 laws . A lot of the Qur'an is about law ( sharia ) and indigenous Aboriginal religions certainly link the two . Its at the root of the most ancient and the most modern 'organised' religions .