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NO. This is what you are saying NOW . You didnt say that before You said ''Smoking weed has nothing to do with spirituality '' . Oh , and now you have switched back to the wrong original claim again . Sadhus smoke ganga (cannabis) to enhance meditation and spiritual practices, as it is believed to deepen their connection to deities like Lord Shiva. This practice, known as entheogenic use, is particularly common during religious festivals such as Diwali and the Kumbh Mela. Smoking marijuana in a chillum is widespread among the recluse Naga Sadhus and is a part of their way of life. The issue was touched upon by Maniraj Puri Maharaj at the India Today Conclave. Speaking on the use of chillum (clay pipes used for smoking) among Naga Sadhus, Maniraj Puri Maharaj said it was not mandatory and seers do it as it helps them concentrate and cut off worldly distractions. The seer emphasised that smoking ganja was not a kind of addiction for the Naga Sadhus. Singh added that some Naga Sadhus told him that smoking ganja leads to a reduction in appetite and sexual urges. In fact, their distinctive appearance, with their bodies covered with ash, symbolises their renunciation of worldly possessions and desires. The Naga Sadhus are members of various akharas, or monastic orders. https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/maha-kumbh-naga-sadhus-smoke-marijuana-chillam-rituals-india-today-conclave-2690234-2025-03-07 ' The earliest known reports regarding the sacred status of cannabis in the Indian subcontinent come from the Atharva Veda, estimated to have been written sometime around 2000–1400 BCE,[6] which mentions cannabis as one of the "five sacred plants... which release us from anxiety" and that a guardian angel resides in its leaves. The Vedas also refer to it as a "source of happiness," "joy-giver" and "liberator," [7]and in the Raja Valabba, the gods send hemp to the human race so that they might attain delight, lose fear and have sexual desires. Many households in India own and grow a cannabis plant to be able to offer cannabis to a passing sadhu (ascetic holy men), and during some evening devotional services it is not uncommon for cannabis to be smoked by everyone present.[8] A sadhu, or holy person, smoking cannabis in Kolkata, India It is still offered to the Lord Shiva in temples on Shivaratri day, while devotional meetings called bhajans, although not necessarily associated with Shiva, are occasions for devotees to consume the drug liberally. Yogis or sadhus along with other Hindu mystics have been known to smoke a mixture of cannabis sativa and tobacco in order to enhance meditation. This is particularly common during the festival of Diwali and Kumbha Mela.[4] There are three types of cannabis used in the Indian subcontinent. The first, bhang, a type of cannabis edible, consists of the leaves and plant tops of the marijuana plant. It is usually consumed as an infusion in beverage form, and varies in strength according to how much cannabis is used in the preparation. The second, ganja, consisting of the leaves and the plant tops, is smoked. The third, called charas or hashish, consists of the resinous buds and/or extracted resin from the leaves of the marijuana plant. Typically, bhang is the most commonly used form of cannabis in religious festivals. In Tantric Buddhism, which originated in the Tibeto-Himalayan region, cannabis serves as an important part of a traditional ritual (which may or may not also include sexual intercourse). Cannabis is taken to facilitate meditation and also heighten awareness of all aspects of the ceremony, with a large oral dosage being taken in time with the ceremony so that the climax of the "high" coincides with the climax of the ceremony.[8] The usage and acceptance of cannabis among college students demands a deeper understanding of the factors influencing its consumption. Research is crucial to explore the motivations, attitudes, and potential consequences of cannabis use, both short-term and long-term. By conducting studies, effective public health strategies can be developed and informed policy frameworks be made to address this growing trend. A Review of Historical Context and Current Research on Cannabis Use in India [9] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entheogenic_use_of_cannabis#Indian_subcontinent If you have not got it yet , I will meet you in Room 13a .

That is right in that is what you might say . But I was hoping for THE definition . No one seems to want to approach this .... either that or their is total ignorance about it .

Which is why I asked the people that are talking eastern alchemy to define what it is , but it was ignored . Instead ...... argue . And they dont seem to want to know what the western definition is . Instead ..... argue .

The transition from a traditional three-part worldview to a modern two-part view often signifies a shift from a reality that included a divine realm, a natural realm, and a human realm to a view focused on the separation of the objective, empirical reality (the real) from the subjective, subjective experience or aspiration (the ideal). This change was driven by the Enlightenment, emphasizing reason and empirical observation, which challenged the authority of the divine and broke down the integrated spiritual and natural worldviews of the medieval and classical periods. Traditional Three-Fold View: God/The Divine: A foundational understanding of reality that included a supernatural dimension, God, or a cosmic order as the ultimate source of truth and meaning. Nature/The World: The physical world, which was often understood as a reflection of the divine order and subject to spiritual laws, in addition to natural laws. Humanity: The human experience was understood within the context of both the divine (e.g., created in God's image, moral uprightness) and the natural world. Modern Two-Fold View: The Real: This represents objective, empirical reality that can be studied through science and logic. It emphasizes verifiable facts and observable phenomena. The Ideal: This encompasses subjective experiences, values, aspirations, and concepts like truth, beauty, and justice that are often seen as products of human thought, emotion, and society. The Shift: The Enlightenment: This intellectual movement prioritized reason, individualism, and scientific inquiry, leading to a questioning of traditional authority and religious doctrines. Rise of Science: As scientific methods gained prominence, they provided a powerful means of understanding the natural world, leading to its increasing separation from divine explanations. Focus on the Subjective: The emphasis shifted from a divinely ordered universe to the power of human reason, individual consciousness, and the subjective realm of human experience and values. This transition reflects a move from a holistic, integrated understanding of reality to a view that compartmentalizes the world into the observable and the subjective, driven by a profound shift in how humanity understood its place in the universe. :)

But I need to stop off at Nigeria .... they do something there I am rather fond of .... building with bamboo and 'mud ' and making houses for the spirits to live in and visit

Aha ... your field of information needs expanding ... again ! Do you know what a Sadhu is ? Specifically Naga Sadhus and specifically at Kumbha Mela and Diwali festivals .

Ahhhh .... no . Its just that you do not understand it . It is based on observing the processes in nature . I said it was a stage . The above bolded is the next stage . Who said it was ? You cant ... it is a stage in the nature of life . You are going to degrade and die , no matter how much you rage personally or on line about it . However you can extend and make better the stage before that .

Yeah ! I am having a great time .... but you will not distract me Apech ..... just think how far I have come now . I am getting close .... and closer ....

We ha a friend that was susceptible to this , so we played an evil trick on her . How few notes of a tune one could sing (in the background or when she was not conscious of it , to give her an 'ear worm' resulting in her walking around humming the tune and not knowing why Six it was ! half a day of an occasional .... '' Dhurrrrr '' , nope not enough .... '' Dhurrr Dah '' nope .... next day ; Dhurrr dah da .... nope .... finally on .... '' Dhurrr dah dah dar dar da

3. Check the internal map . They can get outdated ... or not be helpful

You said this though ^ . So take my comments as a counter to this statement . My questions still stand although I misquoted at you . Eg how far does modern go back, and the other issues I mentioned .

I had success with silver treatments ... not pills though ' a tonic' ... I know it can be risky but I made it myself to make sure and got the required right color in the end product . Out of curiosity I bought some , could not tell the quality as it was in a colored bottle so I tipped some out .... nope ! That was the color the instructions warned me about ! I used it in conjunction with blood electrification . But again this is not alchemy ... not western alchemy anyway . What is the definition of eastern alchemy ?

Typical response from you . again nothing in there about what you claimed about chicken and eggs You just point the finger and decide someone is less evolved or mixed up or a 'slow learner' , when they point pout you are sprouting BS ... again !

Then why cant you cite the exact quote .... instead of linking Cobie to a long paper that has NOTHING about chickens and eggs in it ?

Is this another 'Lairg pronouncement of new reality' ? Chickens go long term ( NOT indefinably ! ) on no calcium intake and supply calcium for eggs by drawing it from their skeletons - its an emergency measure and over time creates problems with bone health . They can even store calcium in a special part of their skeleton to draw upon when their diet lacks it all the details are here ; https://www.dineachook.com.au/blog/calcium-for-chickens-recognise-and-avoid-deficiencies/?srsltid=AfmBOooXfpUHmKUzaX_eO8w3jW8AKJ62FcdZ7zMLmsJoXfJz4Vzn6BCD and no magnesium will not do the trick . AI Overview No, chickens cannot produce calcium from magnesium to make eggshells; in fact, too much magnesium in a chicken's diet can reduce eggshell quality and calcium retention. Calcium is the essential mineral for eggshells, and chickens obtain it from their diet and by withdrawing it from their bones, not by converting other minerals like magnesium. and even if they could that would be internal cheistry not alchemy Do you even know what alchemy is supposed to be ?

Not just his conception . In western alchemy it is clearly on of the stages of transformation ; stage 5 - 'purification' or fermentation . Even AI agrees AI Overview +6 '' In alchemy, Putrefaction (or sometimes Fermentation, Mortificatio) is the fifth stage, representing the death and decay of the old self to make way for new life and rebirth. This challenging, dark night of the soul involves confronting and decomposing inauthentic aspects of the self, similar to how a body breaks down after death, to unearth the authentic self and a deeper consciousness. This process, which often involves a "blackening" of the substance or spirit, is a necessary prelude to renewal and growth. ''

..... but I would be nervous ..... way out here in the forest all alone .... just the two of us . Forestgreen ; '' YOU would be nervous ? What about me ! I am the one that has to walk all that back to the car by myself .

Okay , stop mucking around you guys , I need to continue my journey . next stop , looking on my map' is an island .... or is it a country ? I bet you never heard of this one ; Sao Tome and Principe 1,440 × 810

or after ... if you have dodgy curry

Ha! Caught you before you deleted it . Try the first 5 chapters ..... its worth it . I would not do it justice . Or dont .... and miss out on essential understanding .

One can clearly say that the expression of spirituality in England and Java is different . It is when one says that difference means the other type isnt real or doesnt exist or is not valid ... that problems start .

I'm sorry that is just plain wrong and ill informed and a bit prejudiced . For one thing you speak of modern UK and then mention some post Victorians ... how far does your modern go back . As far as the east coming into influence from them look at things like 'The Grand Tour' ... your observation is not 'exactly' why it happened at all . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Tour and understand that even if you do not agree or even dislike western spirituality ( and by the way , I am not Christian ) one cannot simply say it didnt exist in 'England' .

Indeed ! After a lifetime of studying anthropology ... its the cultural clothing wherein the difference lies . I had the opportunity to compare even highly secret initiation systems from the west with the ancient Australian Aboriginal , guess what ?

And when the Javanese check in you can tell they 'believe in spirits' more' ?