Nungali

NOOOOO ... not a youtube of it I used to have the Book .... I was thinking specifically of the bits that related to these Nephalim watchers whatevers ... hang on .... I will try and dredge up some type of index to give you an idea .... the book is MAMMOTH and the sections too huge to quote here ....

Maybe not . I am not that knowledgable on Sumerian history . But it sounds similar to ( IMO ) the old Egyptian idea of a 'neter' being a God and a particular 'city' / area around the Nile. But Egypt seems to have got the 'one and only king ' ( of a 'country' ) happening earlier . If we take your point , then yes, it would seem that a land ( like Sumer ) that had a king for each city , and he was considered a 'God' , then the land , as a whole, would be ruled with them 'in council' . The indigenous Australian system (and others ) take it further ; each land area has a 'God' but each area is 'ruled' by 'Law' ( established around 8,000 ya * . ) , nationwide , with specific locality modifications, and each area is 'governed ' by a council of elders who uphold that Law. So the 'council' is on a local level . * Most historians are familiar with the 'first' Law Codes .... they are outside the UN on a sculpture ; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Hammurabi but this one is little known of, only being release from the secret tradition recently ( due to the danger of the tradition dying out ) . One significant difference here , which might explain this more egalitarian 'governance' , is that this sweeping change in a society did not come about as they usually do , which is due to some warlord, war, environmental disaster, etc . but in this case it was brought about by the vision of an artist . " they reached a consensus to end the nomadic era by fixing people to country in perpetuity. Visitors approached the Wunan table in order to announce homeland titles and take their oath of agreement by eating native plum. Their positions in sequence from close to far are marked by two long lines of stones extending eastwards away from the table; one reached into the central deserts as far as the Warlpiri and the other northeast beyond Port Keats into Arnhem Land. The Yolgnu of today also preserve the dual moiety system initiated by Wodoi and Jungun and followed by the Ngarinyin. The Wunan table is not some exclusively local ‘tribal’ ‘dreaming’ legend but openly acknowledges by its composition the participation of many widespread peoples in one historic gathering. The historical narrative of the Wunan embedded inthe Gwion rock art imagery speaks to the origin of aunited history of social evolution across the Kimberley and beyond. On return to their distant places, other peoples adopted the Wunan homelands concept and honoured the cross-marriage agreement between Wo-doi and Jungun. They would exchange each other’s blood through their offspring, thus originating a moiety kinship system that is the very foundationof many Aboriginal cultures. 4 Once life became sedentary, a common trading network developed, link- ing numerous language groups, and embraced about one third of the Australian continent. " Also , remarkably , in a Sacred Site, we still have the stone arrangements set up for that meeting , Australia's 'Round Table / Stonehenge' See : Figure 4. Aerial view of the stone table at Dududu.ngarri. Top of aerial image is north with a stone arrangement approximately fifty metres across. The Kimberley hosts known as Kamali were tribes with nomadic bird names and remain represented by seventeen named stones encircling the table. All the visiting tribes from the ‘sunrise’ regions to the east, from northern coast to central desert, form two long lines of jallala — signal stones. Stones arranged in circles and positioned west of the table represent coastal tribes and southern tribes. http://www.ifrao.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/31-1-Doring.pdf - a word on ' in council' ; one notices , that at least with the indigenous here , there is no conflict between 'religions' or people's Gods , you NEVER hear one person denying or scoffing at another's God and claiming theirs is superior . This reminded me of an idea about all the different Egyptian Gods . In Rosemary Clarke's books about Egyptian magic and ritual , she collates the different God traditions as representing different understandings and describing different processes in life and creation , so there is no conflict between them , they are all different parts of a bigger jigsaw puzzle . I asked my indigenous teacher about this and he instantly agreed and said "Exactly" . Each 'God / Gods ' tradition and knowledge are different aspects and are not in conflict with each other . He also said the more one learns of 'the stories' the more one will understand THE Story . The same with 'the heavens ' ; we can view the constellations as separate energies each with their own story , and indeed some of them are in conflict with each other , but one can look at the whole Celestial Sphere and the mythology of each constellation as all part of one story .

I'm off to do something more productive ..... got a pile of cow shit to shovel up onto the compost heap . Anyone wanna help ? Bit of farm work .... be good for ya!

I cant post my photos here ... but . I got a Ma'at feather hieroglyph on each inside forearm , flying raven on left upper outer arm , ' The Word ' on right upper arm . 7 pointed inverse star with red descending triangle in center , middle of chest . R+C over heart (in the form of a 'longways' 'Eureka Southern Cross ' * ) with a rose twinned around it . and other side of chest ; two headed Red Eagle holding a sword . *

DUDE ! They spelt it backwards !!! Oh wait ..... mirror . .

That is an agreement on meaning ????? And I never said it was spooky or scary .... my brief explanation was a lot more than that . You keep making up false stuff about me in order to make criticisms . That was just silly , to say a 40+ year tarot reader , in that particular tradition, thinks the card is spooky scary . If you want to discuss this cards meeting , start a thread about it in tarot section

If Daniel had written that I would have insisted there is NO recipe for a chili dish in TTC ! - just so he could use that against me .....

That would be you, right ? The brave and cross-training Daniel !

You got no sense of humor have you ?

Have you encountered the Urantia Book ? I dont give it that much validity , but it does outline an interesting cosmology relating to some of those things . I am curious which Book of Enoch you are referring to , there is the old one , that didnt make it into the Bible , and there is an atrocious new age one, 'channeled' .

Exactly ! And that is why I was applying that then .

Thats the way .... round us all up into a bunch , that way you can have a go at us all at the same time .

So you admit to considering sources that are known to be liars ? Ummmm .... well, okay then ,

The dao says to be like a child

Same here .... I think thats little kids like me so much ....... a 5 year old requested a 'play date' with me

Ahhhh ... but when you check those facts .... in an encyclopedia ......

Well, you see, you are probably reading and considering context in order to come to meaning . Instead of scanning every bit hunting for mistakes you think are there ... and that process making you see them .... when they arent there

I always wondered what you looked like ??? - cute ! ( well, except for that face )

Who is this Deny guy ? Dennis Smith ? I used to go to school with him .

Its an interesting experiment , asking people that question . If I may ..... : " ... True, we have gone over a great deal of the ground in various learned disquisitions of Gods, Angels, Elves, et hoc genus omne. But God with a capital “G” in the singular is a totally different pair of Blüchers. We find ourselves in trouble from the start. ... I'll trot round to my masseuse, and put it up to her. She is a simple country soul, by no means over-educated, but intelligent... In the late fifties, at a guess. I sprang your question on her out of the blue, à la “doodle-bug;” premising merely that I had been asked the question, and was puzzled as to how to answer it. Her reply was curious and surprising: without a moment's hesitation and with great enthusiasm, “Quickly, yes!” .... I said: of course, but suppose you think it over—and out—a bit, what am I to understand? She began glibly “He's a great big—” and broke off, looking foolish. Then, although omnipotent, He needed our help—we were all just as powerful as He, for we were little bits of each other—but exactly how, or to what end, she did not make clear. An exclamation: “Then there is the Devil!” She went on without a word from me for a long while, tying herself up into fresh knots with every phase. She became irreverent, then downright blasphemous; stopped short and began to laugh at herself. . " try it, let them run and listen to what emerges PS the Chinese may have been uncomfortable as one of them might have been a 'member of the party ' ( A while back we had 5 Chinese University students holidaying here . The older girl was obviously in charge and a clear hierarchy was present . I noted that and made a joke ; " Chen is boss .... its almost like she is the University Communist party member and is here to keep an eye on you and make sure you all DO go back to China . " Wow, did I make a bad joke , they all looked at the floor, dead silence , except for her , she looked me in the eye ; " And what is wrong with that ? " Ooooops ! ... it wasnt that long ago that communist Russia suppressed religion . The main 'religion' in such countries seem to be 'the religion of the leader ' - the old 'King is your God' thing .... still going , even in 'Godless societies' !

My final suggestion is that , NaturaNaturans should have the 'Daniel and Nungali argument ' tattooed on his back .

I must have 'recruited' those other 'unthinking three' to be slaves in the Nungali Army , yeah ? ... and " Earth only be flat , 'cause yo Momma been sittin' on it ! "

Oh hum I was saying I never posted the whole card initially, which anyone with a brain realized, as it was in response to the initial appearance of the image ... of course I posted the whole card LATER to demonstrate why I said I would not have the WHOLE image as a tattoo . You omit all that now and just try this above in a desperate attempt to 'prove yourself right ' , while that is your very complaint against me ! I also note the OP actually had no problem 'guessing he was wrong ' and seemed to have no problem asking ME of the meaning . Now ... who is it that had a problem ? Its wasnt him was it . Whats your problem ? I know what it is , you revealed it in the diatribe that you then realized you should edit out .... and you did . Which was a shame , as I LOVED the bit where you admonished me for flooding the Op with suggested female images for a tattoo ... in a thread with THIS title : Help for feminine symbols for tattoo ... which was shame , as I loved that bit ! - what will Daniel try next ?

Not according to our Dear Daniel here who claims I make unbased and false arguments against him ... because I have this 'thing' about being right

Our Dear Daniel EVEN showed that in the above post he claims proves that I didnt do it that is Matt is saying how I posted it another thread ..... and this is all I posted , an image of the top of the card .... I never posted the whole card .