Nungali

IE . I note you use the terms related to the word 'law' and not 'religion' . Or put it this way ; what was the difference ( for the Hebrew ) between religious law and other laws ? What where the non-religious laws ?

... but, you are doing it yourself in the above post .

Apparently Australia has 'ground breaking' legislation just passed that allows certain psychedelics to be available under prescription . https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-66049989 Why on earth that happened in such a backward ( as far as drug legislation goes .... cant even grow one mara plant ! ) place as this ! news goes, the other week ; from tomorrow psychadelics will be available ... what ... how .... who ? Ewwwww, what a mess .... here are some of the mess ingredients ; We are not ready for it people are not trained to do the therapy Its been touted as cure for 'the modern malaise' ( which means many many people might want 'treatment'. Well, yeah, they admit, it did send some people nuts and ther trauma got worse and amplified ( 'bad trip ' ) . Could cost up to $60,000 for treatment ( ) ... but we dont want it to be for the rich only, so some type of scheme needs to be ( its the therapy involved you see, therapists aint cheap ! ) It might be a couple of years before they are ready for it .... but wait the hell, lets announce it now and change the legislation already . So, all you people that feel stressed and meaningless about the modern life you have been hurled into , dont worry , you can change your outlook after a 6 week $60,000 course ... funded by your own tax payments But how on earth did it ever get through in a place like this ! I'm pretty sure I know who thinks they are gonna be the winner in this one ! Psychologists weekend holiday house :

? Thats a totally different story .

Do you want me to break out my flash drive again ? Its not influenced by what you say , but by across the board research into many ancient cultures, not just Judaism .

Yep , because if you wanted to focus on that you should have said 'Jesus' or 'Jesus' teachings' and not Christianity .

Ughh ! I find that disdainful ! and dont kneel, I may well kick you in the head while its down there .

Dont interfere with my dinner ! Russian guy out hunting , finds a kill carcass .... shit ! Probably a tiger, and it will be returning or to get it or hiding around here somewhere . It was and jumped him, he saw it coming and got a shot off but only wounded it . It escaped into the forest . Later he gets back to his cabin and guess who is waiting for him . Not only kills him eats him. Dont fuck with my dinner ... or you might end up my dinner .

Perhaps , but it is one formed by experience .

I've met a few of those ... some look nearly real ! ( I would cite Pamela Anderson ..... but , she is actually a really nice , unpretentious sweetie . . . dont judge a book by its ..... plastic dust cover . )

Yep. Because we where talking about Christianity , not 'the Christ soul of Jesus ' .

... and when you admit to be our mindless slave .... we will turn your power back on .

Should have been a big grease nipple .... oh wait , those would be on its chest

I wonder why hominid machines need a good set of teeth like that ?

If you allow some relation between Shiva and Shakti then they cannot be ultimately divided.

Ummmm .... that actually is 'the truth about it '. Things happened ... they where true .... that was the 'truth about it ' . Christianity definitely has some underlying essential harmful issues . So does Islam , but a different variety .

I am referring to something different though , not that there is 'no religion' but actually that religion is 'all pervasive' to the point that it is not 'separated out' from society. ( Geeze, did I fail that badly in my explanations and efforts to dig up old references ? ) . The whole western mind set changing from a 3 part reality to a two part ideal / real reality . It started around 16 -1700 and was a crucial element in scientific rationalism and the development of 'materialism' . And thats when the idea of secular and religious separation in society stemmed from . see 'The origins of Modern Science ' by Herbert Butterfield , the first few chapters describe the philosophical transition of the western mind . There is free pdf on line . [ Author : ' Sir Herbert Butterfield was an English historian and philosopher of history, who was Regius Professor of Modern History and Vice-Chancellor of the University of Cambridge. He is remembered chiefly for a short volume early in his career entitled The Whig Interpretation of History and for his Origins of Modern Science. ' ]

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Mulla Nasruddin's answer to the riddle :

argument for consistent revelation : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_revelation_(Baháʼí) ... it can work , I have seen and experienced it myself ; different people from different ethnic cultural and religious backgrounds, sitting in temple together and reading out ;'their' sacred scriptures from the 9 different sources . . . and the resultant great 'social impact' from that as well . Now there is an unpopular opinion ! ( In Iran that is .... https://www.bic.org/news/archives-chronicle-decades-bahai-persecution-iran

... I found the reference , I had to break out an old 'flash drive' . " Anthropologists John Monoghan and Peter Just state that, "it seems apparent that one thing religion or belief helps us do is deal with problems of human life that are significant, persistent, and intolerable. One important way in which religious beliefs accomplish this is by providing a set of ideas about how and why the world is put together that allows people to accommodate anxieties and deal with misfortune."[2]

Good point . ... and that is 'its' (religion ) point . From an anthropological point of view, it has been rather essential for our 'development' . I studied both anthropology and comparative religion , they intersected very early in the comparative religion lectures ; which where prefixed by an essential series of lectures on 'belief' . During this we looked at the nature of the term religion and how, what it means to us today , probably does not relate to the 'ancient' viewpoint . For example, if we translate the word in each language of many of these religions that is interpreted as the English word 'religion' , we find their concept might be better termed , for them , 'Law' . In ancient Aboriginal culture, it is so, and still termed Law. Or consider the Hebrew ; 'Torah'. We can say it means both religion and law . Not our concept of mundane law though, more like the all encompassing system of Aboriginal Law. There is no separation between the 'mundane' or material and the religious or spiritual . 'Navah' sums it up well : " There is no Hebrew word for religion. The concept of “religion” is a Greco-Roman dualism that divides a social life into religious and secular. However, this form of dualism is foreign to the Torah, which instead sees all aspects of life as one and the same: a righteous life. " https://timeofreckoning.org/category/hebrew-word-for-religion Another thing we looked at was certain anthropologists view of the function of religion and their summing up of its purpose . The best one seemed to be close to your observation ; " religious faith is just the same kind of trust that is required for any grasp on reality" . ( I am running on memory here ... trying to remember the definition and author ... been a couple of years since I wrote on this ... its eluding me at the moment . ) That is, it should be something that holds a culture together , helps them make sense of their experiences , bond together and survive successfully . It definitely has a purpose .

I cant see the use of proselytizing ... I might advocate a system though . My 'enlightenment ' is due to me, my path, my life, my experiences , my teachers giving relevant teachings to me , for me and for a specific time and place . Also 'what we bring with us ' . No way will all of that be relevant to or for another person .

My religion is based on experiencing and resultant 'certainty ' not faith .... specifically and by direction ... not faith at all . Results ! .... Thats gotta be unpopular !