Nungali

I will ask YOU this question ; Do you think it is easier, when making a wall out of such blocks ( and requiring tight ,interlocked , earthquake proof joints ) Do you think it is easier to ; 1 . Make all your blocks a regular same size , working them all down to a standard . or 2. Using the blocks as different sizes - as the easiest way they are quarried, split off, etc is to work the natural breaks and fauts and splits in them , resulting in all different sizes . AND moving along from this ; if you have blocks of all different sizes , is it easier to use various sizes by trimming so they fit neatly OR cutting them all back down to regular square blocks . Pretty much the same principle exists , in simplicity , where there is NOT a significant earthquake risk and the wall is low ;

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Oh , this thread doesnt work like that at all ! It works like this : " My auntie knows some south Americans and they said it is trowel marks ." and no further questions will be responded to . - But we ( me and you ) can go on without them , and since no explanations of meaning are forthcoming , we must assume he means the surface of the blocks exterior ; which clearly shows a common weathering pattern . Messrs Dunning - Kruger says " Thats why they looked 'slumped' ." - and if you ask what I mean by that , I will ignore the question . I cant decide whether its born from modern man's jealousy or sheer stupid uneducated ignorance

Whaaaat ! If I had restricted myself to a full time job, I would NEVER have got all this stuff I have , be living in virtual paradise , encountered all the wonderful things I did , nor probably be in the good mental state I am in . ... of wait , you guys talking about USA aren't you .

Yes. Thats what I said . They are small, easy to carry around .... 'handy' ..... you never know when you might need one . ...... whups ! ..... we are about to be interrupted by a barrage of those internet adverts ..... ........ MEN ! It only takes 3 of these to shrink your dick overnight . Be the envy of the party - make women laugh .... feel comfortable in your jeans again .

All shall soon be revealed in my newest post in the Men's tantric section ; Microcosmic Penis , Semen Pumps and Cranial Retention

Oh how I have neglected this esoteric forum lately ! To think of the great wisdom I have missed out on, during my absence ! Here I was thinking the bow shoelace tie was so one could untie their laces more easily .... I had no idea I was representing my perineum and potential kundalini awakening ! - But then again, I checked a medical diagram ..... nah, looks nothing like any part of a shoe ! I assume your confusion is , you looked , and there was the imprint of a shoe up there .

Hmmm .... your example started off with YOU dropping the hammer on our feet .... and summarised with us 'being careful not to drop a heavy hammer on our own feet' . ? Interesting . Anyway, why is the feeling of pain the regulator of reality ... when any feeling can be illusory as well ? Regarding consensus reality , that's a better point . I remember hearing a talk from a Buddhist monk on 'illusion and reality ' , afterwards I was talking to him and he again bought up the points he made in the talk . I mentioned the point about consensus reality and he responded with ; " Well, .... yes, there IS that too . "

I was wondering when someone would bring that up . Many a time on Daobums (and elsewhere) a discussion has been had about if what we observe, in person, 'live' , with our senses is accurate, or indeed , 'real' . ...... but some forget about this when discussing the veracity of ' video' .

Ummm .... as it says " Note : whale in image closer to camera .... " here ya go , try this :

Painting . It might be old ( but on tv here now ) , maybe even 'controversial ' .... but I like watching him work . A way to do trees with lake reflection ; from 18:40

... don't you mean ' aristocat ' ?

All sorts of people .

I knew you where ridiculous , but I didnt realise it was genetic and through your whole family !

because most 'ancestry dna' type results are BS ! All these VERY obvious looking Aboriginal people here went for it and got results from all over the place with 0 aboriginal dna present .

In my next demonstration I shall break this baseball bat ..... by holding a child's ankles, moving forward while doing figure 8 twirls with him and then on the down stroke , break the bat in two with his face ..... ready ?

If you think that .... ... you must be in an altered state .

Re the bolded bit : There was contention amongst the corner refs when I won as a green against the black belt . Some didnt like my initial attack as it was not at an accepted target. Opponent was a VERY tall guy with very long limbs , he was outreaching everybody , and had been winning by relying on that advantage . He started by sticking his long arm and fist out in your face , even a side kick, your kick would not reach into him beyond his arm reach . he kept sticking it out in my face . It annoyed me so I kicked his hand , seemed the obvious solution , not that anyone taught me to do that . He went owwie owie ow ow , lost his whole body focus , hunched up and shook his hand in the air and then grabbed it with the other one , slightly stepping up and a bit forward as he did . I came in with a classic oitsuki ( being careful to retract my other (guard) hand back to hip and away from any useful guard , as I had been taught . And Frank ( ring ref ) explodes, blows his little whistle , goes into an exaggerated front stance pointing at me and screams " IPPON ! " (one pont, a kill, a win ). 2 corner judges didnt want to allow it as I kicked his hand 'not a proper target ' . Krank insisted as I was coming forward , and opponent was coming forward and I did the technique as required ( all needed to score a 'kill' ) , of course Frank held Veto, and I was awarded the win ... much to the ego fury of my opponent . Thats what I mean by 'karate as a sport ' . That guy would have creamed me on the street , but this was a sport, with rules and requirements of delivering technique 'correctly' . .... and I won 4 cheap drinking glasses in a cardboard display box with luxury car logos on them ..... whooopeee !

yeah .... BUT .... Is that video an acceptable form of evidence ? The bolded bit is the key I think , and your comments about individuals ( my qualifier was : " What a history I have had with THAT mob! ) My comments where more about 'old school' and my experiences in the past . Back then it was verbotten to take the art 'way beyond' any rigid guidelines ... actually guidelines is too weak a word . [ back then I actually got third place in an open Shotokan tournament against a black belt when I was green . It was crazy, the guy was all over me and scoring ( back then a high level of control and focus was required - no full contact ) - in a real fight I would have been smashed . But none of his points where allowed - much to his building frustration - as he didnt perform his attacks EXACTLY the way the referee ( Fran Nowak ) believe they should have been technically performed . I managed to do your classic ( and very bad form , in this case ) Oitsuki ... pretty badly ... but the way it was 'required' and won . me at the end ; " I won ? " Back then much of it was political ( the JKA stuff and their trying to bring all under their regulation or you would not be recognised as 'proper' ). I realise its changed a lot now . Some have done research looking at the roots of their art . Some have incorporated some of the locks take downs and throws of old Okinawan karate - which sorta moves it away from it being Shotokan anyway . Im not saying they cant fight , nor that 'school curriculum karate' person cant fight - any one who trains to do a thing A LOT and gets real time experience will be better than one who does not . As a beginner , I trained under the then JKA all approved and recently made 3rd Dan ( which was still a big deal back then , very hard to get a 3rd dan from JKA .... if you where not Japanese) Frank Nowak , a German and the first JKA appointed non Japanese 3rd dan . His teacher was Kanazawa - the 'JKA poster boy ' ( their eidalon ) - talk about a robotic moving , ridiculously deep long stancing . military type drill sergeant . But still , he was good at it , I seen him go from a crazy low deep front stance straight into a leap over his attackers head, to hit with a back heel kick and the base of their skull . Obviously a very risky manoeuvre to try on an experienced person . - anyway , the video you posted ; look at the 'attackers' punch .... other hand pulled back at the hip when he punches ? Why do that ! ? - I mean , in THAT situation they are demonstrating . Thats exactly what I am talking about above . Most people have stopped doing that in our club , becasue I keep clipping them upside their head when they do it . However we do do that .... when we practice the technique and situation it is designed for , and then it does make sense . Regarding Rick , a lot of what he shows is pretty much what we do , I mean, a lot of his application / techniques , he has 'developed ' / discovered (?) as he says " WE dont normally think about that ." Well , I do and 'my we' does , as its all in there from the beginning . I might even venture to say Rick made Shotokan better by going back to where they got it from in the first place and 'reversed the changes they made to it ' . to make it Shotokan . Also a lot of Jap karate has re introduced weaponry back into it . Early days , you never even saw a bo . Old days in Okinawa ' karate kobudo went 'hand ' in 'hand' . I thought he missed a point about his 1 ... 2 ( moves ) at the end , thats a typical thing I see in karate .... its application might be better understood if one considers a big part of karate early influence being white crane ie , 'wings closing' - in karate ; 'cross arms ' or ' the wind up ' or as some refer to it 'loading ' ( evade, deflect, catch, direct or control ), wings open - seizing, controlling at striking ( or they can be reversed ) , we see it in the performance of nearly every 'block' , except it is 'angled ' ; inner and outer 'block' angled horizontally , upper block angled up diagonally , downward block angled down diagonally , in performance of shuto .... all through the moves actually . Oh, by the way , I am not surprised you think he can move better than many Okinawan style practitioners ..... some of them seem to have gotten 'worse' than the people I criticise ! And they teach all that standard 'school kid' stuff . Why ? becasue they have clubs and want to make money and most of their students are school kids ( that are going to drop out , so hit them with fees , uniform charge .... any charge you can think of, before they take off .... thats 'business' ... and a big reason why I refuse to charge ( or even pay my 'instructor' - I do however make a quarterly ' club donation' , to keep the thing going )

Your protest .... which I think is valid .... is more in the area of religion . For example , asking " How many times has your magic failed?" is an entirely different question to the rest of the post which is about religious ' theology / philosophy ' .... unless you are conflating the two subjects of magic and religion . I wouldn't advise that at all . And the specific term 'Magick' which you used , by definition can't 'fail you' , as it is a process of learning about life .... however, an individual could fail the 'curriculum' , but that is not the system 'failing for you ' . Well, you could see it that way I suppose : " That curriculum was no good .... it failed me ! " If you think 'Magick' is like doing 'magic tricks' or displaying siddhis , then yes, it could certainly 'fail you .'

No answers to mine above ? This 'found a bottle thing' - hearsay too . What 'finishing marks' and what do you mean by " flow over on to the next stone " ? Posting an image to what you are trying to describe would demonstrate what you mean . Google might be my friend but it still will not show me any entries about 'straw' inside the limestone blocks of the Great Pyramid .

Yes, it will appear that way if you approach this stuff the wrong way without proper instruction and guidance and get the supplementary material practices and 'realisations' that come with it . or one may , as Crowley warned : " otherwise he will be the slave of illusion, and the prey of madness. " The same applies to many other traditions eg Tibetan Buddhism ... and also apparently Christianity .

Sounds good . Putting two heads together better than banging one against the wall Indeed , and at times I have been in that situation , but as you know , the money earned in that situation can be channelled into 'what we will' . But certainly less than ideal . I am STILL learning that . I think, once 'the ball gets rolling' it gains momentum and other things start magically manifesting to assist one ..... or we could say 'dreams start coming true at an increasing rate ' I have experienced this . Just one single example : ( Oh, and I should add , no matter how much of an idiot I am , it doesnt seem to impact on this process ! ) During our hell court case , more than 2 years long , although it we trounced them , like in any long and gruelling fight , there are times when you feel pressure , stress , need a break .... Also it was not that clear then , my mind was saying ' What if we DO loose ? EVERYONE ( for some God damn reason ! ) seemed to be turning against us , even some of the many people we helped over the years - except for two and saying we are going to loose , even 'friends' , soliciters , etc . What if I loose my beautiful abode - what will I do then , where will I live , I have no money ... I will be cast out, destitute , an old street person with health problems But then .... what the hell am I doing ! MY life has never been like that .... things have always 'manifested ' in some strange and unusual way for me . Stop being an idiot Nungers ! You know 'Big Mum' ( as my indigenous teacher calls her ) is looking out for you . So I get back to my old self and think ... so what if I loose it all, thats happened more than once and I ended up better off . I know everyone says they are no rentals and they are crazily high amounts .... but I think I just look online and see what IS available .... ... a 'Lodge' / defunct 'bed and breakfast ' .... up on the mountain ..... at THAT price ? Must be mistake . So me and friend go to check it out . WOW ! Amazing place , I peek through a window " Thats MY room right there. " We ring up .... Oh, MANY people are on the queue for that , but we somehow get to visit the owner , we click, they decide to bump us in ahead of any others . I wont detail how good it was as the main thing is ; one day I drove PAST it , all other times I would drive out, one way to the local town , or drive out , the other way, to see some friends . But this day I went from town to friends , drove past the house and .... wait a minute ! Drive back and do it again . Then it hit me ! This is the place I drove past on my visit to the area before I moved here 30 years ago and I noticed it, stopped and admired it and thought 'What a fantastic place ... and it just resonates with me, like I belong here . Oh what I would give to be able to live in a place like that .... even temporarily , but that seems impossible . I was living in my 'dream house' And that isnt the only thing like that , that happened , there has been many of them . Some times , to a seemingly trivial and material level : the motorcycle ( old retro version ) , I realised after I bought it , is exactly the same sort of motorcycle I dreamed about having as a teen ... I forgot all about that , but now somehow I have one . ( and the reason for that is , I never really needed money before, but I sure thought it might be handy and fun to have some ! ) At the beginning of our court case , they also threatened to take everything I had ... but after investigation they realised I had nothing personally owned ( worth anything to them ) so I was declared a 'man of straw' - a legal term which means basically 'forget it, he's a bum, not worth the trouble of shaking him upside down, only a few cents will fall out ) . The after the case and we won, and after the appeal and we won .. and after it was all finished and settled THEN I got, totally out the blue a multi hundred thousand dollar inheritance . - that now, they cant touch ! Who is working this all out ? ! Many have wondered why 'someone like me ' , never responsible , planning, or saving , ended up where I am . And also interesting is that I did all this stuff , not for any 'karmic reward ' ... it just happened , or I was drawn towards it for other reasons ; things like working with refugee relocation, nursing the elderly , cooking nurturing and feeding people , one could even say being a tarot reader all those years , or time spent as a masseur . I was never interested in charging for it though . And that leads me to another factor ; past life 'accoutrement ' , what we bring with us , I am supposing some experience (or karma ) along these lines already ..... I think it might be a bit hard to get to this stage of realisation or 'fluking' ( ) in one life time . What I mean by this is ... if someone is a BRILLIANT carpenter , they might have carpentry experience before this life ? hang on a minute ! That sounds like what is happening to me ! Surely I am not man of virtue !

Got an image to demonstrate this ? 'Have' trowel marks ... or have things that look like trowel marks ? People describe the 'scoop marks' around the obelisk as looking like a big ice cream scoop had scrapped out bits of rock . of course, even if we had such a mechanised scoop and tried it .... no way would the surface look like that ( it would be fractured and broken, even ice cream will do that if you scoop it out - look closely at the surface , it isnt smooth at all. ). Even in this video here , they suggest the 'scooper' would have to be some huge type of abrasive 'belt sander' , but that 'belt sander would not have a flat surface , as a 'scoop' is deeper in the middle - so a belt sander that has a convex base plate ..... as we go on and look further into it, the ore the idea falls apart . Some of the blocks certainly LOOK LIKE they where once malleable and then set . I spent a LOT of time in the past looking into this and particularly Davidovit's ideas ... he is an engineer has replicated the process he believes they used and made a scad of bucks out of it ( geopolymer for deep site nuclear waste containment and burial ) .... but his ideas start to fall apart as well, the more we go into them . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Davidovits I cant find any reference to that whatsoever . I think you we need a citation for that ... otherwise its just ' hearsay' .