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Of course one can time travel ! I do it every moment , its a one way journey though . I dont agree with cancelling out time as it a human perception, I think it is something that exists even if humans where never extant . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_in_physics#Time_in_quantum_mechanics
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It drives the big pump which alternates the east and north coast of Australia and the inland between wet and dry years ; droughts and extensive wetlands . When LaNina comes the interior of many places turns into giant wetlands and the birds flock in . Its started its effect here already ; heavy rains , in some parts floods. In some harvest areas its impacted on harvest . Vast areas of the inland have turned into wetlands and attracted huge numbers of birds . This time last year it was all drought , extra dry and started burning . So we probably will not have a fire season , or a dangerous one . We will have a wet season and hot and humid weather . And floods , and stinky mud and leeches and a raging river . Just like the old days I am hoping for a more moderate one than a strong one .
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( now you have done it ... I had Nuns as teachers in early school, so we had a LOT of Nun jokes . ) A flasher sees a Nun and decides, because she is a nun she will make a great victim and be really shocked at his exposure . So he waits until there are other people around to increase her embarrassment . At the 'right ' moment he jumps in front of her and yells out ' Yaaahhh ! " everyone nearby turns to look and the flasher rips his overcoat open . Everyone is staring, the nun, is just standing there staring ... curiously . Then she says ....
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Time can be curved , like space can be .
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That reminded me of two things; 1 was my experience two days ago; I have had trouble with unreliable tilers for my bath house , its been going on for months , "I will be there end of next week " , so I arrange my week - no show , no call, nothing. I call, no answer , I text, no response . Eventually a couple weeks later I manage to get an answer on the phone and ask what happened , answer " I will be there next Wednesday " (no explanation or apology about the previous , mind you ) . One guy did that 3 times ! , others just a point blank refusal - too busy, or a moan or a whinge . One guy came out and said I could not do it the way I wanted , it has to be done ...... I said " But I thought it could also be done this way ?" he thinks and goes 'Well .... yes, you can do it that way ' - what, do I know more than a professional ? Then he said " Look, I would probably let you down on this job and not finish it .... I am not well ... I got hay fever ..... etc blah blah (including a rant complaining about women ) " Wtf ? Okay goodbye then. So I rang 'Thai Tiler' < thinks > surely he will be different . They where lovely and 'happy to do it " - thats what i want ; enthusiasm and happiness to do their work ! " ..... in January ." everyone is busy . Anyway after the above I rang them back and said I had had it was pissed off and I want to go with them, put me on the end of the que and I wait till January and she goes : " What's wrong ? " so I told her what had happened . " Oh no , not good . I am sorry , I ring my husband . " " Oh ... you dont have to ...." " NO ! I ring husband " and hang up ??? next husband rings me " My wife told me , we didnt know , that is bad . Are you home? I come around after work . " Not only did he come around after work, with no charge he encouraged and advised me , told me what I did was fine ' Very good job .... keep going " gave me a few hints, I gotta move one window in 5 ml , that's it ! Really nice happy concerned (as he calls himself ) ' Thailer ' . I will do what I can and he will fit times in to come and do a bit or give advise . And at the end ..... get this , he " I am sorry . " " Why are you sorry . " "For the other tilers ... very rude . " he actually apologised for the other tilers to me ! 2 . .... er (later ) battery just went red ....
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I do it by attitude and interpretation . I think its wholly to do with ones 'frame of mind' and what things 'of the world' we are involved with or attached to . Its all 'of the world ' ..... greedy money grabbing, contemplation , laziness and helping old people out of bed in the morning and washing and dressing them . Its up to us to stick to our own values . Everything is harder when its raining ordinance and ammunition outside . So one has to choose ones area of operation - and that might be a day to day thing or ones whole incarnation . I suppose then, I think its faulty . You are always in the world ... cant escape it . Even after death you will be 'in the world ' . I think one misunderstanding ( In my view its a misunderstanding ) about being apart from the world is rooted in types of denialist gnosticism ; earth is a dirty sinful place and not our home ... our home is in heaven and we need to get back there , etc . One just has to choose which parts of the world to attach to and which parts to avoid . Some times we have no choice though. yes A developing ground , at least . To what end ? Well , that's the 'big mystery' isn't it . I am not sure what you mean 'between inner and outer' . For me the tightrope walk is about between living how I want to live and what other forces are trying to drive me in a way others want me to live . I suggest some preliminaries are making the tightrope very wide thick and stable ... and stringing it up in a good place . But so much of this relies on incarnatory good fortune . If I was born elsewhere under a different situation I probably would not be saying the above .
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Most of us have heard stories of at least one culture where, due to some type of suppression they could not practice their cultural martial arts so preserved some of its memory in practice in cultural dance . This is especially so in Okinawan Martial Arts ( a system I study and practice ) , which gave birth to the modern sport of Karate . All peoples have their original martial arts , Okinawans where fond of wrestling, later influence came from China and 'Te' developed ( Hand ; Kara-te - Chinese hand ) . Before long 'Okinawan Te' became a mix of adapted ' Chinese Hand ' (and foot) , grappling joint locks throws wrestling and 'anything goes' 'dirty street fighting' ' . Weapons where also used ; by the police class ( swords, sais, etc ) and others, with whatever might come to hand ( Staffs, spears, wooden weapons modelled on the some Chinese ones, farming tools { hoes, sickles ), oars) . Eventually they where invaded by Japanese and at other various times, the practice of these arts was forced underground but also some was codified into dance forms . One kata we practice has a series of moves that show various methods of fighting unarmed against a bo or long staff. We have long recognised some of the movements one sees in a common Okinawan dance, done in the street during festivities ; lines of dear old grandmothers in traditional costumes , painted smiling faces. Their hands come together , they hold their palms one behind the other and press them out , fling one arm up and then down while they do a cross step and a little squat, rise up , and make a big circle with that hand , the other follows , they hold their hands out steady and step and do a little kick , start again , the hands come together .... and so on . In the application of the first part of the kata your opponent comes in with the bo in a side strike , you step in and enter ( the first step in the dance ) inside his strike zone, the palms coming together absorb the blow down the shaft, near the others lead hand . Immediately fling one hand up and whip the finger across their eyeball , punch down, lowering your centre (in a way to break their grip ) and make a big sweeping circle catching their wrist and applying a wrist lock. Continue the movement in a big circle with that hand while your other has gripped the bo shaft and trapped the others thumb or little finger against the shaft while rising up ( and make a big circle with that hand , the other follows , in the dance ) . Now your left hand has the bo and their hand, your right has their outstretched other hand with a wrist lock on, arm slightly bent with the bo staff mid point as a fulcrum just above the elbow bone near the 'funny bone' 'weak spot ( they hold their hands out steady, in the dance ) applying pressure with the wrist lock, the middle of the staff on their elbow nerve and the other end up between their legs giving the family jewels a wedgie . The other will be bent over forward now with their head lowered ( step and do a little kick , in the dance ) a big toe kick into their eye , if they silly enough to have their head turned towards you , or f turned away, into the weak point behind the ear . ..... nice old ladies ! probably better to just bow to them and smile , Of course that was probably difficult to follow, but recently I found this ; watch from 4:50 Also we do two kata with the eku or oar . I won't go into them but here we have an 'oar form' preserved as a traditional dance , then as time has gone on , into more liberal times the martial arts have revived but also the dances have become obviously 'martial'.
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I cant remember the terms but we did a two person dance like thing in Aiki kai . Both sort of move in a an intertwined figure 8 . I wasnt familiar with the term Taigi ... " (sets of related aikido techniques performed with an emphasis on harmony and flow, rather than competition between two opponents)." Hmmm .... that was always the focus in Aiki-kai , we had no competition . What I am talking about above is ; 1practices a technique on 2 . 2 does not 'allow' it and counters or converts it so the technique is reversed back on to 1 and turns into the same technique but now 2 is practicing that technique on 1 , who does not 'allow' it and counters or converts it so the technique is reversed back on to 2 who ..... and so on . Ever done that ? No one actually gets thrown . Its very dance like . I dont the name of this practice so cant demo with a vid . here is something close to it , but they only do it once then the one doing the counter throws the other . If both where flipping and continuing the movement that would be what I mean but everything seems a flip escape for this guy . we did all sorts of escapes and counter moves that flowed one into another ... a bit like ' aiki-waltzing '
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Why is it when I mishear a word I sometimes think it was a crazy out of context, a word that makes no sense instead of my brain sensibly working out the right word that sounded like it in the it in the proper context ? Thank goodness its been done to me on occasion so I know its not 'just me '. So I am at 'Alchemy' , the local holistic center getting a deep tissue massage . The masseur is pretty good and has given my neck tendons a full on work out and then goes to a more relaxing sort of kneading below my collar bone , a bit like a cat does when it gets on your lap or a cushion and starts kneading it with its paws . And she goes : " I can offer you a special panther massage " Me; " That sounds scary ." " Why ? " " What , you gonna bring a panther in here .... you got one out the back ? " " What ? " " I suppose its the name of some special technique ? " " What is ? " A panther massage - sounds sharp and scratchy ." " Special pamper massage , I said ; a relaxing massage followed by a facial. " " Oh .....
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Sumer: the "black-headed" vs. the "red-faced"
Nungali replied to Taomeow's topic in General Discussion
Yeah ! To all of that . Food preparation and grinding stones also feature at the Gwion Gwion center in Australia at the same time period . Both isolated people seem to have been experimenting with different ways of food production, especially regarding grinding grain in larger quantities and more efficient processes . I think I read tha some of the grinding stuff at GT showed signs of ocher ? That was also definitely the case here as well . I like the concept of GT being a type of center that different people met in for a variety of yet interconnected purposes , ( like the site in Australia and also perhaps Stonehenge ) but as you point out , there are so many of them about . I imagine all sorts of other functional spaces are required for a 'stay over ' with groups of people traveling and meeting there . Even if it never happened , it would be needed for the constructions of the places . Agreed . That also applied down here .... heaven on earth , the Garden of Eden , ( before whitefellah showed up ) you come from earth, live on earth and 'go back to earth' - even the stars are part of earth ... like a big cave , long time ago , spirit ancestor painted them pictures up there on it . -
more a type of 'coaxing' than 'forcing' . A main principle in alchemy is 'circulation'
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Yes you where taught that .... or should have been ! You just made a stand for it so you can have both hands free . Yes. For a start , a chemist uses a 'blow torch' - quick violent heat . The application of heat is more gradual and gentle in alchemy .
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Sumer: the "black-headed" vs. the "red-faced"
Nungali replied to Taomeow's topic in General Discussion
Thats sort of what I meant when I asked you about Nome standards , maybe I should have said 'the God or the spirit of the tribe or group' ... relating to a special animal . I just assume 'spiritual connections' myself . Meaning that if I saw a group of tribal people with a standard of an eagle , and maybe tattoos of eagle, and eagle bone necklaces , etc . I would assume the spirit connection , that their shaman and others would have connection to eagle spirit ... maybe can 'become' an eagle , would have eagle traits and protections by eagles , etc . But that could be a base assumption I have due to my experience with the indigenous here and their concepts of totems . But still, the spiritual level of a totem does branch out into cultural and social symbolism , probably NOT into political symbolism and certainly not into struggles for kinship . So I guess my question could be , do you think the pillars (or some of them ) might represent ' shamanic tutelary spirits' of the tribes that gathered there ? 'Predecessor ' ? -
Jump down a rabbit hole with me . Back ground . banging my fav theory on 3 : 4 again , some of you are familiar with it Basically, 3 'things ' 'absolutes and ideals ' give birth to 'another thing' that is a type of product from them but apart from them . Its throughout Hermetics, Daoism, and 'nature' (which includes the cosmos and the Laws of Physics) . This 4th thing is a product of or manifestation of the 'reality' of its 3 underlying principles ..... but , is actually some type of illusion / 'maya' / projection . . . although ' more real' than the ideal . I have given heaps of samples elsewhere so I won't go on about them . Except this one : The four forces of physics ; The strong force , the weak force, electromagnetism and gravity . ( To use elemental mapping G would be Earth .) The great quest in physics has been the Unified Field Theory of ... well, everything but especially the 4 fundamental forces ... ceptin they cant do it , they unified the first 3 but not G . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_field_theory#Current_status So in the past .... I wrote that they will not be able to as G is a product of or result of the first 3 and not in the same 'realm' as them and cant be 'unified ' but its really just a supposin' on my part .... back then in the past ( ahhh ! the glorious past , when there people around like Brian to talk to this stuff about . I even suggested moving G in a huge complex equation - theory of everything ' or something , that was a post here in the past - and Brian talked sense to me about the idea I proposed ! ... anyway ) Foreground . G won't fit into the triangle ( cause then it won't be a triangle any more ) its a product of , relative to and an illusion from the other 3 forces . Thats the reason my hermetic theory gives . But finally , here is the physics ; . But finally
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Sumer: the "black-headed" vs. the "red-faced"
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I case anyone is interested GWION ARTISTS AND WUNAN LAW: THE ORIGIN OF SOCIETY IN AUSTRALIA http://www.ifrao.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/31-1-Doring.pdf [ Just to give this topic reference ... sort of ... an extract from the above paper ; " In summary, Wunan law was brought to life by one artist — the celebrated munga.nunga, ('visionary / artist ' ) Wibalma. This is probably one of the few societies in the world that begins with an artist and not a warrior, king, queen or warlord. The ‘artist-visionary’ Wibalma created a sacred object of Justice as the catalyst to inspire an enduring social order under law — Wunan. The Ngarinyin evidence should be acknowledged as the basis for a new paradigm in the disciplines of art history, archaeology and anthropology, and indeed Australian History (Glowczewski 1988, 2013; Glowczewski and Henry 2011). " -
Sumer: the "black-headed" vs. the "red-faced"
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Okay, I dont expect you to defend him. I was questioning you about the purple feedback and statements you responded to me with . Any, here is something that I find a lot more interesting Another theory about the 'rock art ' at GT * corresponds to , not a theory but a recent revelation, in Australian Gwion Gwion rock art (from its indigenous custodians - formlerly held secret and not pubic knowledge ) not only seems the same but is dated at the same era . That is very curious . * “Markers of ‘Psychocultural’ Change. The early-Neolithic monuments of Göbekli Tepe in southeastern Turkey” (by Oliver Dietrich, Jens Notroff, Sebastian Walter, Laura Dietrich, pp. 311-332) I cant think why an impetus to ' crucial transition phase of cultural and economic change.” would be happening in Australia at the same time ? Yet is recorded Indigenous tradition and artwork . of course down here it wasnt a prelude to a 'neolithic' (not anything like a 'northern one' that is, nor displayed in monumental stonework) , but the most important changes where made that resulted in the establishment of laws and principles (and also a huge gathering of clans ) that changed indigenous culture forever and set up a system that survived up to colonisation . " ( unless it was an 'astrological influence ' ) The again , I cant think why Australian ingenious have a similar myth to the Greek and other ones regarding the Pleiades women and water https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Aboriginal_astronomy#Pleiades and even stranger : when some point to Scorpio ( which they dont see as a scorpion , nor use all the same stars ) they tell a story that is very scorpionic and has many of the motifs assigned to Scorpio in their story . Thats a head scratcher . All I am left with is that bit of the above wiki article ..... no I'm NOT ! I just went to cite it and its been removed ! It was right after ; " The close resemblance of this to Greek mythology is believed to be coincidental — there is no evidence of any cultural connection.[12] .... then it used to say ; " ..... however ..... " and go on to outline how there could be old connections where things have come from originally , further research may reveal .... -
Sumer: the "black-headed" vs. the "red-faced"
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Have you ever considered that the pillars and the animal depictions might be a type of totemic ID 'Nome standard' type of thing for the different groups involved in meeting there ? -
Sumer: the "black-headed" vs. the "red-faced"
Nungali replied to Taomeow's topic in General Discussion
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Sumer: the "black-headed" vs. the "red-faced"
Nungali replied to Taomeow's topic in General Discussion
I certainly think a lot of neolithic culture and pre-neolithic culture is related to the stars . The night sky is part of 'the world' ... well, that was the view down here . I am not sure why you see the Gobleki Tepe professional researcher's criticisms as " very amateurish " . The tepe telegrams site is from the research team . One curious dynamic is their work is mostly ignored ; all the research, data , statistics etc put together and published their own theories , yet Sweatman's is the popular one Anyway, that last reference in my last post is a podcast and is very interesting to listen to . -
Its not about wanting you to abandon you mood and switch to mine . It was an answer to you about what you seemed to be assuming was the place I was coming from . You dont think that I am not well aware that my jokes are sometimes not received well , do you ? I'm pretty used to that . - I even have a joke on that very subject , and although there may be other readers who might want some light relief at the moment , I won't tell it now, as I might be accused of further attempted manipulations which you seem to think I aiming at you personally . Oh yeah , and in answer to your question " You are not one of them , right ? " No, I am not one to try or think that Taomeow ( of all people ! ) is likely to switch on cue, demand or suggestion her current mood .
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Sumer: the "black-headed" vs. the "red-faced"
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Yeah, except what I wrote about is not based just on 'this addendum' . if you can direct me to 'his other vids' where he explains these obvious discrepancies and where he addresses the original criticisms of 2017 on his original hypothesis , I will gladly view it . I have watched a few , you realise ? Which also showed similar discrepancies and other problems , which I highlighted some of previously and they where not addressed either eg (GT is dated at the END of the Younger Dryas , nit as Sweatman dates them ( hear it on podcast by a researcher who works there ( see link below - from 8:30 ) . But hey, if it supplies a 'good read' for people .... enjoy . The issues summarised : https://www.dainst.blog/the-tepe-telegrams/2017/07/03/more-than-a-vulture-a-response-to-sweatman-and-tsikritsis/ The excavation team and research staff view (remember, Sweatman and partner are engineering people , why not listen to the actual accredited people working their who are actually working within their professional fields ) ; https://tepetelegrams.wordpress.com/2017/04/21/archaeoastronomy-meteor-showers-mass-extinction-what-does-the-fox-say-and-what-the-crane-the-aurochs/comment-page-1/ & https://www.archaeologypodcastnetwork.com/pseudo/73 .