Nungali

No I am not a parent . I am one of the guys that step in when parents mess up, cant cope , or are a single mum under great pressure . It has happened a lot , I guess its my karma ... and have the karma NOT to be a parent .. maybe I am infertile < shrug > . Parents have often noted how good I am with their kids though , some are even amazed at how much their kids like me so quickly . I guess its because I 'get them' , in a way their parents cant . Thank God for 'uncles' , they have a special relationship ... and that is fostered in some tribal communities , its a very important part of their society . Also I have been a teacher for year 10 students in a multi- faceted 'life skills ' course . Most of them are grown up now and have their own kids . I saw one recently I havent seen for years , he was a funny guy , class clown , borderline 'special' . He was glowing and told me about the new house he had just bought , his first, and his new wife and their new baby . Well, that sort of thing makes it all worth while . I am married to a very tall German woman . (another single mum in need , illegal immigrant and abandoned here by her boyfriend after he bought her here illegally, got her pregnant then abandoned her and baby to run off with her newly acquired 'best friend'). She is stern and strict and would eat the likes of you for breakfast ! Trouble is, she is sooo tall and long legged , that I cant catch her , she just runs off . We have been separated for some years now, but still married . She is rather incredulous bout and still tells people - we never had one single fight or cross word ... and still dont , her house is right next door to mine , She makes nice baked cheese cakes and now has two more children with the guy she ran off ... who left her too , now with 3 kids . Ho hum ! Cum and run ..... who will pick up the pieces ?

I am calm . I think you really want to say ' shut up ' .

See ... you cant help yourself . You paint your own self portraits all the time . And please cite where I claimed I am so developed in love and spiritualism .... I thought it was my intellect you where insulting before , I made a claim about that . Dont know where I claimed to be 'developed in spiritualism ' .

I tried , but he kept insulting me .

a 'concierge ' is a moderator . I cant believe (especially now ) that you didnt know Ilumairen was a Mod . - you seem to be playing some sort of cover up game here (and not being too good at it ) .

Well thats a LOT clearer now . It appears Welkin hid the whole thread ... and then attempted to blame the Mods for directing him to do it . I guess my attempt at having good faith in him (ie, believing what he wrote ) backfired on me . What a sucker ! Hopefully I will learn from this mistake .

Aha ! That seems clearer . If I have it right ; A poster COULD do it , but Mods thought they SHOULD NOT do it , without consulting them first and asking Then, with no Mods and no one to consult , the should not turned into ' I can and will ' , as there is no one to ask . Should and could are pretty different words , though similar . Hope I got it now ?

I dont think you where asked to close it because it suited me at all . It seems the mods asked you to close it due to its content and what you said . Which to me is weirder ! But maybe you got canned and warned in a PM ? More ' under the carpet stuff ' ? ... I'm still calm . I wonder if you would be if I hurled the same insults at you , your parents , DNA , ancestor and country ? and it got dealt with the way this is being dealt with .

I was calm from the beginning . Even amongst your insults . Maybe you are angry because I didnt react to them ? I suppose you will just hurl more now ... and then close the thread and hide it .

Anything to do with technology and computers , owner ' permissions ' ... and especially, how the above read like it couldnt be done (hiding a thread ) without Mods , yet when no mods around a poster could do it . To me , that is confusing .

members 'took back' 'owner permissions ' that Mods said 'didnt apply' ? Now I am more confused . Uggghhhh .

Is it that small faint 'moderations options ' box next to 'start new topic '. So, one can 'moderate' a whole thread out . No folks, I am NOT being a deliberate idiot , I just never noticed that before , or if I was told , I forgot . In my 'defence ' . I recently wrote about a picture resizing tool available here that a Mod didnt even know about . ... so 'things' can be missed . I wonder about the purpose though ..... I mean someone could start insulting people .... tell them to " go F**** yourself " ... even after a Mod warning , continue in the same way and then 'hide' one's 'work' . .

Thanks ST . I guess things are more permanent in the Rabbit Hole then . Maybe before writing any longer answer in the general section , from now on. I will ask the OP to re post in the rabbit hole .

I thought you needed 'permission' to do that ? The above thread you cited doesnt make it clear what happened . I commented there on 'thread removal ' not ' removal of a thread by the OP' . I was confused as others by a thread removal with no mods present . ..... from the thread, you commented ; " Sean actually gave me permission to hide a thread I had started in the past. " So that doesnt indicate at all that an OP can just eliminate a whole thread (and everyone else's work as well ) themselves . I see also in the thread you cited that other people think its a rather strange option as well . SO ... where do we stand now ? Can a person (OP ) just randomly ' hide ' ... which basically means 'remove' .... a thread and every other persons posts in it or do they have to 'ask permission' ( which means they cant do it by themselves and are really asking a mod to hide it ) ?

Its the Universal force of attraction that makes things that appear 'separate' come into union or 'oneness' . It can be two people or 2 atoms of hydrogen and 1 of oxygen or a whole range of 'reactions'. " I am divided for love's sake for the chance of union . " Yes. Its a word used freely ; I love a cold beer on a hot day . We had this exercise where you list all the things you love, then you make an equation out of it . The above might be ; love x quench thirst x relax x cool down x inebriation . or Love mother (for a child ) ; love x security x nurturing x nourishment x ...... etc . then work through the list eliminating what is not love . Its an exercise in what things we attach to love and might consider love but are really something else . Well, regardless of what I just wrote, there are different types of love , so those stages are different . Take initial attraction 'love' , it might be chemical, you might be unconsciously sensing that the other has a good genetic makeup and combination with yours to make healthy children . 'Lust' might be in there , but bringing up the child and a family requires a longer bond than that so 'pairing' is also stimulated . Maybe after children are born or they grow up 'love' dissipates . Then there is this whole other dynamic that is more psychological relating to anima anmus and the reflections we see in others .... that can make someone seem like th most wonderful person on the planet ..... for a few weeks or months . Unconditional love ; she rings you up at 8:30 am < sounding terrible > " I am soooo sick, I cant get out of bed except to vomit . And the kids are sick too, one vomited everywhere and the other two are crying for breakfast, and one broke some glass and thats all over the kitchen floor, with the vomit, and the kids are walking through it with their bare feet and ..... " Me; " Okay, I'll be around there in 15 mins .. Conditional love ; That was her boyfriend pissing off as soon as she felt unwell the day before . Thats a good question ! Maybe yes ? ... and that is 'energy flow' ? Hmmm .... I feel all love creates some type of kama . because the experience of feeling them is 'pure joy ' ? .

Really ! ? I dont think I can ever recall conversing in a thread in the morning and have all trace of it gone by the afternoon . Doesnt this cause problems ? I mean, I can see the need or reason someone might have to delete their posts , but the whole thread and everyone else's posts ??? Wow. That must have pissed some people off in the past . .... I mean this one disappearing was no big deal , I did want to explore the natural / unnatural thing , but mhe . But what if someone in another thread devoted time and research to an issue, posted on it , for others ( than the OP ) to read and it just got deleted . ' hidden waterdrop threads ' ? You are going to look through hidden threads to see if I commented on them ?

A poster can hide their own thread ? In the main forum ? I didnt know that . Without notification .... they can just vanish it ? WOW .

Calm down ? Feeding ? ? ? What ? What you on about ?

Nope , cant see anything in that section . Do you think threads 'get disappeared' due to moderation - without notification ? That makes things a bit confusing .

Hey Welkin , What happened to your other current thread 'Biological Manipulation Towards What ? " It just seems to have vanished into thin air ! Manipulated away towards ... where ? - just when you thanked me and I said "You are welcome . " Anyway, its gone . Could of sworn it was there this very morning . But now ..... POOOOF ! ... not even in the index.

Yep . Many small and 'insignificant ' animals wield great power and authority . There is a more recent story called 'The Oldest Rock'. Its a great story and goes on and on, eventually at the end our 'hero' triumphs, he finds the location , meets the people who are custodians and affirm "Sure, we look after the oldest rock in the world , the first one. " The quester wants to find it and see and feel it, the people say " Thats okay, its down by the water , down there . " He searches and finds it (by its energy, whose trail he has been on ), but its no more than a tiny speck. He takes it back to the people / guardians and they affirm " Yep, Thats it . " He complains ' But is so small .... its tiny ! " " Well, " one of guardians offers , " it is the oldest rock, after all ... so its been all worn down ." (love the end of that story ! ) Do you know what the 'human centric' 'purpose' of a virus is ?

Another gentle reminder ... about perspective . The above picture makes Earth look small , but if you can, imagine how big it is in relation to our individual size. , Then lie on the surface where we actually live , in the near invisibly thin layer, at the top of the crust and the bottom of the atmosphere between the freezing radiation filled expanse of space - just above our heads and the super hot , twisting, flowing, electro magnetic , massive molten , and hugely compressed 'solidity' - just beneath our feet . Then try to imagine all those forces, the immensity and how small we are . Then, with that in mind, go back to the above diagram . And some people think life isn't a miracle !

Hmmm ... maybe I should make a 'check list ' Still alive < tick > good ! Have fun < tick > good ! Give thanks and show appreciation < tick > good . According to Solomon ; " A person can do nothing better than to eat and drink and find satisfaction in their own toil. This too, I see, is from the hand of God, " According to Nungali ; " . I have done all things under the sun ... and the only worth of man is to do a good days work (in the field that he loves , where he can express his individuality and particular calling and skills ) and rest and contemplate it at the end of the day , while drinking wine ... or a pawpaw and passionfruit smoothie .

I wake up . - thats a great start. Seriously - every morning I wake up, and think " I am still here - still alive " and that's great , another day! I lie and look through the window, usually at a brightly shining Venus and some stars and watch the sky start to get light . Then I get up and make a coffee. Go back to bed, propped up and watch the light spread, illuminate the rainforest fog and watch the view outside gradually get illuminated by golden light ; the forest, the tree ferns and palms outside the window . By now the birds are calling , that changes , depends on who is around ; Whippy ( whip bird ) might be cracking and calling, magpie might be singing on the door step for a rosemary cracker (his favourite ) . In summer , the pulse of cicadas might rise . Then usually, as the sun rises and the dew lifts and the fog blows away down the river valley, I go online and do 'computer stuff' . There is a zillion chores to do around here , so I like to do some of them. A good day though, can be simply 'nothing' , a bit of pottering and a lot of just being and observing and 'being in' nature . Mid week days might include a motorcycle ride , a walk in old growth ancient forest, a trip to the deserted beach, a swim in the river . Harvest some food from veg garden or the trees on the property. Maybe have a pawpaw and passionfruit smoothie. If its raining, I spend time indoors, reading and studying . A bit of practice now and again ; kata and weapons , train with others once a week . It varies of course , depends what I am currently into . Lately I have been building an outdoor bathhouse , its mostly glass on the front with a fantastic view through the palms and ferns, to the escarpment and down the valley. Still waiting for the tiler to turn up . Today I am going to the coast to buy fresh prawns , to make 'prawn twists ' ( minced prawn, coriander, lime leaf, chilli rolled up in spring roll wrapper and fried ... with lime juice and sweet chilli sauce dipping sauce ) for the local 'country store ' * - they have a new large rustic verandah they built with great views and are having their first dinner and live music night there . At home we have a large fire circle on 'solstice hill' nearby my place . Sometimes people have a fire there and gather . This time of year has been good as I like a fire , inside or outside , but that time is passing , now at night the fireflys are coming out and thats pretty cool . Then I give thanks for another great day ... even if its been 'bad' and express appreciation for how good I have got it .