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If that person used those actual terms , to me, it sounds like they are unfamiliar with the subject matter . What is 'the deeper dimension" ? and what on earth is 'some kind of dark energy dark something ' ? It sounds like they have a vague feeling about you (or their reaction to you , which might be wholly coming from themselves ) and are 'offering to project' their ideas onto you about your constitutional make up . a sediment ? ? ? Thats even more confusing , it seems he is searching for terms , 'grouping in the dark' , as they say . First, verify if they know what the hell they are talking about . get a 2nd opinion. But essentially, disregarding what this person says , how do feel about yourself ? Do YOU or have you ever felt this about yourself ? (Believe me , if someone on this board, can post on the subject you did and come across as rational , even in such a short and direct post as you did , its more than likely you not possessed by an entity or whatever . ) Why on earth say that to someone ? Without further understanding, explanation or remedy ? Its like ; 'hey dude , I feel you have some type of cancer , eating away at you . No, I am not a doctor or anything , and I cant say more than that .' Why would someone do that and what would their motivation be REGARDLESS whether they have 'some abilities' or not ? I would make sure its actually true first before getting involved with some other freak thats gonna claim to 'fix' you . Again, how do you feel about it ? Are you plagued by it, does this 'sediment' effect you. Do you have a history of being subverted or committing 'dark acts ' ? etc . I think if you had some type of negative entity attached to you ... you would NOT have this realisation . However , our psyche is not a simple construct , we consist of all sorts of things , and some may get a 'hunch' or feeling about others , yet we have no way of telling how clouded their perceptions are by their own state REGARDLESS OF 'ABILITIES' . The remedy is to learn about your own constitution and balance and regulate it . Chose a system either 'magical. hermetic or yogic' accordingly here is an introduction to the western concepts ; https://swedenborg.com/recap-the-angels-and-evil-spirits-with-us/

If you can show me proof other than your say so or memory that the line was a lamb laying down with a lion and NOT a wolf then I shall gladly eat my hat . Looking at the info I supplied above , its rather obvious that the lion is mentioned later . And also when asking someone if they remember it being a lion and not a wolf , they are likely to remember , if they ever read it , that 'yeah, I remember something about a lion' . Aside from that, I think I AM in agreement with you as, you mentioned (if I am not mistaken ) with some amount of disdain , the meek shall inherit the earth . Well, to me, that has been the hugest amount of BS the system ever put out , akin to the 'just accept hardship unfairness and oppression now as in the afterlife you will get justice and reward '. To me these things are more worth focusing on and exposing than whether someone removed a lion and put in a wolf and then changed the Bible back through history . I dont see how that would accomplishes anything , or shore up the systems propaganda ? .

Not necessarily https://www.srichakrascans.com/

Nope . Apparently it has to come from her or your memory . or it doesnt count . And it has to be in Russian AND ... apparently , her memory has to be SOOOOO infallible that any lapse or mistake in memory is not seen as that, but rather , more probably , that someone switched universes on her , or there is some huge conspiracy underfoot to change every Bible in existence ( to substitute lion with wolf ) for reasons , I am sure , must have great global significance .

The thread will become clearer after reading , if you allow me to fiddle with your question ....

Submarine races . here is another one (different woman ) . Flatmate recently arrived from NZ so unfamilar with Oz and slang . She sees this sign ; 'Whats that mean?" Me; " Its for the submarine races ." "What ? " " We have submarine races, they are pretty popular, people come and watch them in their cars , the cables are for pulling the subarines along the bottom ." " What ! ? Never heard of that ." " Oh ? I will take you and you can see it . " So about a week later I tell her the submarine races are on at the beach this tuesday night . We go down to the beachfront car park and park, looking out over the ocean . She looks around . "There are a fair few others here too ." Me; " Yes, its very popular ." wait ... Her; "When do they start ? " " Soon, just keep looking." (I had an old Holden with a bench front seat ) ... slide over next to her , put my arm around her . "What are you doing ? " "keeping warm " Then I start patting her leg " What are you doing now ! ? " Then she looks around at the other cars and sees all the couples are ' snogging ' ...... then she finally realises what 'going to watch the submarine races' means . . . and cracks up BUT THEN " But why do they have those signs up about them ? "

You are the type of person I would luv to try that on ! < Why the hell is he marching around the room like that ? ! > I have a naive friend that I tease endlessly (one would think she would be a wake up to me by now ) . A while back we stayed at a place up the mountain, it was on a hill and had a near by old style telecommunications reflector screen , not like the modern round ones but an old square one . and since it was on a hill, didnt need to be on a tower - just above the ground level. Her ; "What's that ? " Me; " Drive in movie screen ." Her; " What ? They dont have drive in movies way out here ! " Me; ' They used to, but it closed down. Then they ripped up the parking lot and projector housing and turned it into cow paddocks, but left the screen there ." Later I found out another friend asked her where she was staying and she answered 'next to the old drive in movie theatre . " and they ... WTF are you talking about . She explained my explanation to her and they cracked up . her response was muttering 'Bastard! " under her breath . I am waiting for the next one . A male friend and myself where talking about prostate problems and she was listening in and then she ; " Oh, I better look out for that .... ummmmm , I mean ...... do I have a prostate ? " Me ( quickly silencing male friend ) ; " Oh sure, and if you never had it checked, you better ask the doctor to check it out next time you go . " - can't wait to get the 'feedback ' on that one

What will you ask her ? 1. ST: " Do you remember the Bible used to say 'the lion laid down with the lamb ? " and if she says yes , "Well, look at it now ! " Sister : <opens Bible > " MY Goodness it says wolf and lamb , when did that get changed ? " ST ; " During the Mandela Conspiracy ." OR 2. ST ; " Look in that old Bible and tell me what it says about lions, lambs and wolves ." OR 3. ST; " Do you remember the Bible used to say 'the lion laid down with the lamb ? " Sister ; ' No , I always thought it was wolf . " ST; "Aha! No, it used to be lamb lying down with wolf , " Sister ; " Well, I am checking Mum's old Bible and it doesnt say that , where did you get this from ?" ST; " Errrmmmm .... someone in the internet ." Sister ; " "

You remember lion ? But what do you remember lion doing ? Is the Mandela effect within your own memory , is it wrongly remembering something and then when its shown to be not correct, one assumes that reality changed while one's memory is infallible ? I think the question of , if you can lay with and eat someone at the same time is NOT suitable to pose to a Sunday School teacher . That's correct , giant meteors will be going on strike in 20 20 ... we won't be seeing one of them , until they get better conditions . .

You asked me which scenario is more plausible . For me , the one I outlined is the most plausible . Ohhh .... right . I suppose I will be selfishly ignoring the rest of humanity, as usual . Thats why I established myself and situation the way I did in the past ... to avoid all this present nonsense . Well, that IS questionable . Also questionable is the toxic negativity of the undercurrent death wish that seems to want to make any passing mote of cosmic debris a potential world shattering event . I am glad that my chosen life style gives happiness to others ! I remember the lion from the Bible . I also remember the wolf and the lamb from the Bible . . However I DO NOT remember 'the lamb shall lie down with the lion' BEING SUBSTITUTED WITH 'the lion shall lie down with the lamb ' in some type of revisionary process or even as ' a glitch in the false memory of accidental amnesiacs -- which some of them, in their denial, call the Mandela effect" . Isiah 65 - 25 But then again, perhaps what I remember has been effected by 'Mandela ' , as apparently it 'got changed ' ? Let's see ...... " there are no biblical passages that refer to the lamb and the lion lying down together. That is a very common misunderstanding. " Isaiah 11:6 Has Not Changed Every historical document that refers to Isaiah 11:6 does not say, “the lion will lie down with the lamb.” They do not refer to the lion and the lamb. They say that the “wolf and the lamb shall graze together.” What follows are six historical examples of information that demonstrate Isaiah 11:6 has never read “the lion will lie down with the lamb.” They always refer to the wolf and the lamb. The Hebrew Bible — The Tanakh The first example of Isaiah 11:6 comes from the Hebrew Bible. It is identical to our English Bibles. And the wolf will dwell with the lamb, And the leopard will lie down with the young goat, And the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; And a little boy will lead them. Isaiah 11:6 (The Tanakh)[1] The Hebrew word that is translated as “wolf” is zeeb. It occurs seven times in the Hebrew Bible or the Old Testament (Genesis 49:27; Isaiah 11:6; 65:25; Jeremiah 5:6; Ezekiel 22:27; Habakkuk 1:8; Zephaniah 3:3). Every time it is translated as wolf because that is the meaning of the Hebrew word. It is never translated as lion. Therefore, Isaiah 11:6 does not refer to the lion and the lamb. 1611 King James Bible The second important example is the 1611 King James Bible. It should be noted that Isaiah 11:6 in the 1611 King James Version Bible reads the same as it does in modern Bibles. Here is Isaiah 11:6 in the 1611 KJV: The wolfe also shall dwell with the lambe, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid and the calfe and the yong lion, and the fatling together, and a little child shall lead them. 1611 King James Bible[2] This reveals that Isaiah 11:6 has not changed since the 1611 King James Version Bible was printed. Early Church Fathers (A.D. 349-407) A review of the writings of the early church reveals that John Chrysostom paraphrases Isaiah 11:6 in his commentary on the “The Gospel of Matthew.” It is important to note that Chrysostom lived about A.D. 349 – 407. Here is his paraphrase of a portion of Isaiah 11:6, Then wolves and lambs shall feed together . . .[3] Saint Ambrose (A.D. 340 – 397) also refers to the wolves and lambs feeding together.[4] The article Did Isaiah 11:6 once say the lion shall lie down with the lamb? contains a more complete listing of the writings of the early church fathers that quote Isaiah 11:6. Each of the quotes contain the phrase “wolf and lamb.” The Pseudepigrapha (A.D. 2nd – 7th Century) The Sibylline Oracles (A.D. 2nd-7th century), which is part of the Pseudepigrapha, rewords and plagiarizes the verse without giving credit to the original source of Isaiah 11:6. Wolves and lambs will eat grass together in the mountain. Leopards will feed together with the kids.[5] Dead Sea Scrolls (circa 125 B.C.) The scroll 1QIsa (~ 125 B.C.) in the Dead Scrolls also contains the book of Isaiah and Isaiah 11:6 states that the wolf and lamb will be together and not a lion and lamb.[6] The Septuagint (3rd to 2nd Century B.C.) The Septuagint (third to second century B.C.), which is the Greek version of the Hebrew Bible contains Isaiah 11:6. The following is a translation of the Greek text, And the wolf shall feed with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid . . .[7] Therefore, this means that Isaiah 11:6 has not changed since at least 270 B.C. The reader is also encouraged to visit, “Did Isaiah 11:6 once say the lion shall lie down with the lamb?” There are those who think there is a Bible verse that says, “God helps those who help themselves.” But it does not exist in the Bible and there is no verse that says the lamb and lion will lie down together. Yet, since peace will exist throughout the millennial kingdom it will be true that all the animals will be at peace with one another. What is truly amazing about this passage is that a little boy will lead them. Now that is amazing. " https://www.neverthirsty.org/bible-qa/qa-archives/question/where-in-the-bible-does-it-say-that-the-lion-will-lie-down-with-the-lamb/ yes I do get a sense that a lion is wonderful creature .

I suppose the scenario depends on what and where you are . next for me is a warm wet spring, which will defray next bushfire season. I hope to have my plush new bathhouse finished by then. So I shall be relaxing in a hot tub looking out through ceiling to floor glass at the tree ferns. palms and view down the valley . Occasional I might take the motorcycle or Rover out for a spin . Maybe float down the river on an air mat and watch the rainforest drift by , I dont plan on laying down with any wolves or lions ... the current vixen is enough for the moment. I will do a revamp of the veggie garden and make new organic compost heaps and probably spend some time at the , beach. Also I plan to spend some time at the little local city on the coast and visit the nearby small islands and partake in the new trial programme where they are allowing people to interact with whales ( in other places except here and Coral Bay WA, one must keep a big distance from them and retreat if approached by them . The rest if the time I will be hanging out here , in our safe from covid bubble area / state . - sorry f I disappointed any panic merchants with my anti ' death asteroid ' info - Wait ! Maybe it WAS a death asteroid ... and we are all in 'Mandela denial ' ?

An asteroid roughly the size of an SUV has whizzed past Earth at a distance of about 2945km. The event at the weekend was the closest-ever known encounter with such a space object, NASA and Pasadena-based Jet Propulsion Laboratory announced on Tuesday. “It’s really cool to see a small asteroid come by this close, because we can see the Earth’s gravity dramatically bend its trajectory,’‘ Paul Chodas, director of the Center for Near-Earth Object Studies at JPL, said in a statement. “Our calculations show that this asteroid got turned by 45 degrees or so as it swung by our planet.” The Near Earth Asteroid, or NEA, flew past the Earth roughly over the southern Indian Ocean just after 9 pm California time Saturday, according to JPL. The space rock known as asteroid 2020 QG was about to three to six metres long. Although it passed safely by Earth, if it had flown directly at the planet, it likely would have broken up in the atmosphere, officials said. In space terms, the asteroid was considered to be very small. JPL and NASA official said there are “hundreds of millions’‘ of such small asteroids, and they are hard to detect until they get “extremely close” to Earth. - 7news.com.au AND The celestial object known as 2018VP1 is projected to come close to Earth on November 2, according to the Center for Near Earth Objects Studies at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory. It was first identified at Palomar Observatory in California in 2018. "Asteroid 2018VP1 is very small, approximately 6.5 feet (1.9 metres), and poses no threat to Earth. If it were to enter our planet's atmosphere, it would disintegrate due to its extremely small size," NASA said in a statement. "NASA has been directed by Congress to discover 90 per cent of the near-Earth asteroids larger than 140 meters (459 feet) in size and reports on asteroids of any size." NASA says that, "based on 21 observations spanning 12.968 days," the agency has determined the asteroid probably won't have a deep impact, let alone bring Armageddon. The chance of it hitting us is just 0.41 percent, data show - 7news.com.au NEXT !

Thorts are tricky enough by themselves . Belief ? Now there is a bag of snakes ! and now, I shall pre-empt you ;

I believe so .

Highway Patrol Police Officer ; " Do you know why I pulled you over Madam ? " " Ummmm ...... so it would't be so windy when we talked ? "

Huh ? I thought I did answer it . We are (or should be ) trying to refine, develop and control them . ... to use them to our advantage, rather than 'them use us' .

Little Lagoon Western Australia . Cathedral Rocks (near home ) The last step up. It has a ledge with a small cave under it . I felt compelled to put my arm in there didnt know why , it seemed a good hole for a snake to live in . I had to lie down and put my arm in up to the shoulder, felt a rock pulled it out and it was a black quartz cluster . I told friends at home and they said L. had got on there . I asked him and he described the same spot and compulsion and told me E. got one there too. So I talked to her and she said she felt the same , put her hand in palm up and a crystal cluster fell into her palm. Part of the way there is between cliffs either side shot through with seams of black and white quartz . Another one is the 'lightening tree' spot on the back ridge of the property (underground quartz seam again ... they attract lightening) .. An Aboriginal Elder traced it for me ; starts at the river birth pool, goes up hill and under my place, cuts through 'solstice hill' ( a good site for gatherings and celebrations ) , up Pyramid Hill ( a 'problem zone' ) and comes out at lightening tree . From there you can 'take off' and reappear elsewhere at an 'arrival node' . In dreaming , it takes one step, The first lightening strike (since I was there ) blew the top and branches off, the crown was about 60m away , blew the outer parts of the trunk in 4 pieces and scattered them off in four directions , and blew the inner top part of the trunk down and into, crosswise the lower part, to make a huge cross . Many later strikes have destroyed this and much of the surrounds . A great spot for meditation .... but not in a storm !

Young man to young woman's father ; ' Sir, I ask your permission to take your daughter for my wife . " Father ; " You pervert ! Go and find women for your wife somewhere else ! "

This is why I now wear a face scarf on the motorcycle !

Why do think he has no pudding ?

Totally agree about language . Indian tradition and terms are suitable to consciousness and cosmology , French is the language of love, as they say , Farsi ( Persian) the language of poetry, German the language of engineering, and so on , but what about English ? Its good for commerce . Even the concepts are lacking , in English there is 'soul' or spirit' and both are confused and indistinct . The Egyptians had at least 7 terms, Judaism has 4 types of human souls . I mean , compare Vedic cosmological complexity with the Bible . Yikes !

Okay ... except when I am 'enlightened' in my deep sleep I act like a 'master ' .... travel in time , ride my old Triumph Bonneville down the street I used to walk to go to school, but now, for some reason there are deck chairs all over the road and sunbaking on them are the nurses I live with when I lived at the Nurse's home at the hospital I used to work at, and they are all wearing bikinis, I have to swerve in and out and drop the bike , it splits in half like those olfd airfix models I used to make . My mother comes out one of the houses and yells at me . Ahhh .... enlightenment ! ( PS . yes, you CAN dream in deep sleep . )

I am going to jump in here without reading any of the following posts . I have always had an issue with people that talk about 'meditation' . Whats that ? I might ask . The reason I do ask is I think there are so many types of and purposes for 'meditation' or 'mental practices' , or even physical practices which might be 'mindful' or done with 'awareness' that to term them all under one word, or to use that one word to describe a practice is far to general . Its like me inviting you to exercise ..... that could mean anything from a boxing match or going for a jog together or .... So when people say 'let's meditate' or 'I meditated ' I am likely to ask them what they mean . The general answer seems to be to sit still , i some version of attempted 'lotus' , close their eyes and drift off . Only they can tell if they have 'no thoughts' . because of my views on this I became very interested in what an elderly Tibetan lama taught about it on his visit here years back (our community used to hold such events back then ) . We where in our meditation sanctuary and he asked about the building . Some person who didnt live there and was unknown sprouted up that it was for meditation. Lama asked " Oh ? You meditate ? What is that ? " The answers where diverse and confused . Lama declared "let's all meditate then " and most assumed the position, closed eyes and 'went spiritual' ... exept for Lama Anyway, I have written about all this before , how he informed them that was NOT meditation " Some of you where sleeping ! " I have a VERY active mind , so yes, a break of stillness in thinking is refreshing , but it doesnt last long . yes, it is like trying to dam up a river ... and that does not seem like 'the way of the Dao' . I say, in teaching sword art ' , 'dont think, if you can not stop the mind thinking , think only of clear blue sky ' . One reason I enjoy sword (and other weapon practice ) is I am not thinking when I do it , its all feeling and response and reaction. It seems one , or at least for me , needs something else going to stop the mind wandering . And for me that is the key , if we can control the minds thought process, or only think of one thing , then the mind works better for us. So the reason is develop the use of and improve control of the mind . This is what makes magick and yoga the same thing . And I think that is the purpose of meditation and magick . " To obtain Magical Power, learn to control thought; admit only those ideas that are in harmony with the end desired, and not every stray and contradictory Idea that presents itself ". Fixed thought is a means to an end. Therefore pay attention to the power of silent thought and meditation. The material act is but the outward expression of thy thought, and therefore hath it been said that “the thought of foolishness is sin.” Thought is the commencement of action, and if a chance thought can produce much effect, what cannot fixed thought do? " - Liber Librae and " In this book it is spoken of the Sephiroth and the Paths; of Spirits and Conjurations; of Gods, Spheres, Planes, and many other things which may or may not exist. It is immaterial whether these exist or not. By doing certain things certain results will follow; students are most earnestly warned against attributing objective reality or philosophic validity to any of them. The advantages to be gained from them are chiefly these: (a) A widening of the horizon of the mind. (b) An improvement of the control of the mind. " - Liber O But yes, it IS very common for people that practice either magick or meditation to not know really why they are doing it . Well, my first meditation practice was to think of one thing only. I could have myriad thoughts but they had to relate to one thing . Eg. if I could not have no thoughts, I was encouraged to have one thought , say a candle flame . It was permissible to have the candle and flame present , to help focus and discourage mind wandering . Thoughts like ; the flame gives heat , what is a flame anyway , is the candle beeswax, why does it flutter, etc are permissible , if I think I am hungry and wonder what dinner will be , I have broken my meditation. I am learning to focus the immensity of my mind that is usually occupied with a zillion conflictual processes onto one point or subject . So IMO, it doesnt matter IF you are thinking , but it matters WHAT you are thinking . I would say raging anger is emotional fuelled thought but abstract formulation is intellectual thought . The two should be separated , how you FEEL about something should be sorted out before you intellectualise it (so not exactly the same thing ) . Fire first (inspiration ) then water (feeling ) then air (thought and intellect ) then earth (put it into practice ) . If you only ever meditate with no thoughts whatsoever then you will have nothing to put into practice . One thing a period of no thought (and no emotive reaction ) can bring is a space for new inspiration , but what good is new inspiration unless it filters down through the elements of the psyche into 'practice' ? Commands and visions / objective thoughts and imaginative thoughts , I see as two aspects of 'soul' . Soul is that unique human ability to not only have visions and most essentially IMAGINATIVE PROCESS that lead to outcomes that can then be turned into decisions but to also put them into practice . The imaginative process throws up all possible potential practices and outcomes and navigates through them to select best outcomes for, not only what IS happening but what MIGHT happen in the future . The commanding or decisive process in thought , hopefully, selects the best solutions . So I see them as the same process but different parts of the process . Develop the faculty of concentration . Well, thats what I try to do with meditation . I have noted that many people that say they 'meditate' can not answer your question .