Nungali

Any sex festival / sex arena / public gathering should be out in the open , I say , and not concealed by symbolism

" In there ... ? " - Raquel Welch battling through 'tubes' . ( Remember 'Fantastic Voyage' ? )

Especially when 'they' write ignorant stuff about Shamanism like that which was written here . That was in the days before one could easily put up references and historical pictures right next to what one was saying . You might not win the argument , in the others head , but anyone else can clearly see the evidence put up by one side and the silly attempts put up by the other . Eg , numerous historical pictures of shaman put up Vs one cowboy gaymodel . . . . then a sting of angry abuse . I disagree that acting always delays resolution . Eg Did not your actions in resolving things with Gendao speed up resolution ? Where would you be now with that if you had not acted ? "Would you like a cup of tea Gurdjief ? " ..... " Errrmmmmm ....... ummmmmmm ..... well ........ "

Here is some more Starjumper ' wisdom ' ; " If you think you can learn the real thing from books, go ahead. " ... and all his comments against fakes and 'losers' who try to learn from books . Well ........ ahem !

As I said , YOU yourself a doing a better job at embarrassing Starjumper in the minds of others than I ever could ! And other readers are noticing that . I mean , just look at this post and the claims you are making in it alone . yet all can see, from what you wrote before that here , again , YOU are the one being delusional . I dont see what pot has to do with it . people much worse or more untogether than me dont smoke pot all . Also, I smoke more than most people around me, and they have not got their shit together anywhere near I have , on multiple levels . Maybe if you smoked some you would chill out more and become less aggressive and concerned about everyone else's way ? Then again, maybe not ... apparently it can magnify some peoples psychotic problems . . . . . if they already have them . That phrase is usually reserved for people that claim OTHERS are the way they actually are and they should look in a mirror to see it in themselves . Except here YOU where the one that started calling Shamans, from traditions across cultures, times and locations all fakes and started some 'low , medium high' classification system of shamans , depending on whether they wore a costume or appeared as a gayboy cowboy model . So your ; " speaking of fake shamans " .... YOU where the one speaking about ! ... but now I should go look in the mirror . And that Starjumper classic is followed by you calling ME numb nuts ? - MORE self embarrassment ! Ya know , writing insane stuff like the above and doing your psychotic laugh thing , right alongside and advert for people to buy your 'Tien Shan Chi Kung' * home made video ..... might NOT be a good marketing ploy . I dont need to go there and call you a liar to your face , that is not my intention . What would be the point of that ? You would continue to argue while I continued to affirm . I would rather do it here, where others , can give you 'objective feedback' - TBs style . My intention was to draw you out from ignoring me, via silly taunting , so you would make your own posts , that I knew would embarrass you far greater than anything I could write here . And it worked .

Being too concerned about money will harm your masturbation technique .

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But ... but .... you will miss all the red dots !

Imagine what he is like in 'real ' life .

Is that your Mother Heartbreak ?

I see you missed that 'lesson' in the school yard . The deferens is subtle

I am sure he is used to his presence having 'strange turns' around it . Anyway, if I might get back on topic - my ''low level , fat arse' shamanic opinion on weather magic ( and considering my experience - as opposed to ' just sayin ' - is 'regional' ), and its original primeval form is that it was mostly about weather predicting . In a society that is highly mobile, 'vulnerable' to the elements, has no substantial housing, no means of distant evacuation, or dependent on canoe travel , knowing what the weather is going to do is an invaluable art . And of course , predicting the weather is very close to 'making' weather , to those who do not understand the prediction process. A while back, an indigenous elder was telling me things ( he probably should not have , as another one interrupted and shut him up ) that where interesting . The first part of what he said seemed to imply 'control' or some type of 'manipulation' . The context of the conversation was about how some indigenous where angry about a group walk , long distance, some people where on and a 'spiritual white guy' had been planting 'charged crystals' along the way at 'special spots' . The elder became enraged and went off on a tirade of abuse including how it will interfere with things and people should leave crystals where they are and broken rant , like " ... and I have to go into this big cave with all these holes in the wall and each one, its got these big crystal rods and I gotta look at them and put them back in the right holes ... " ( thats the bit where another told him to be quiet ) . Then the process seems to imply prediction ; he went on , generally , not about the details " .... so if someone mucks it up , how am I going to know if a big storm is coming, or a giant wave , how will I tell my people before it happens so they can be safe ?" It was explained to him that these people where not digging up the crystals from here , they where from elsewhere , bought in a shop and they probably came from South America . Then of course , he wanted to know why the hell people where bringing crystals from South America to bury in his land . They agreed together that this should first be explained to them by the person that wanted to do it and why ... and THEN he should ask permission of them to see if he should do it or not . I agreed with them on that too and told them i would tell people not to do it . So, Hey you lot , dont go planting crystals in Australia , talk to Indigenous about it first ! Another version was from an elder woman I saw interviewed on film , she was explaining how she knew, from traditional teachings, about weather cycles . She was having a hard time explaining the concepts in English, but from what I could get she was explaining levels of cycles within cycles that sometimes line up and some times dont , over short, medium, long and very long times . I got the concept of 'ring gears ', like this ; But many of these cycles inside each other, 'geared' inside and out . or like the Mayan Calender works So, like we say now ; we have large '20 year floods' ( 1 in 20 ) , larger '50 year floods' and much larger 200 year floods ( Euro records here dont go back further ) . The same with other weather events . It depends what parts of what cycles have lined up for any date or time period . The woman interviewed said she knew of about 5 of these levels, but a lot of knowledge has been lost, in the teachings there are talk of many more levels that people used to know about, spanning vast distances of time . - Considering her ancestors have been here, and their descendants still are , over many tens of thousands of years ; through ice age , drought ,huge fire events, volcanoes, tidal waves and ocean rising - massive climate change ..... they had some powerful ' weather magic ' happening here .

A selfie for his own selfie album so he can look at himself later . " Hi there handsome ........... I said - HI THERE HANDSOME ! ..... OI ! "

That reminded me of when I had a bellydancer GF .

More of Starjumpers 'Real Men' : Ooops ... that 3rd one is out , he forgot to shave .... his body .

Obvious . becasue you are not one of Starjumper's ' Real Men' . You must be one of them fake weak men ? Man up ! - Get rid of your shirt, go get a cowboy hat and a few hundred $ worth of ; MAC Studio Face and Body Foundation 120ml - C2 Tom Ford For Men Concealer makes skin look like velvet perfection. Highlights, creates a subtle glow, enhances natural skin tone,

So, its not a picture of you ?

Nahhh . Its just that NOW you are tellign lies about what you said in a weak attempt to cover up the crap you wrote Thats his claim NOW about what he said . What , you think our memory is as short as yours is ? You where claiming to speak for the whole history of shamanism ! Now you are tryng to pretend you said only the " type of shaman that I am familiar with . " And .... ummmmm ... it just wasnt just me , if you noticed , a whole LOT of people in this thread made fun of your stupid ideas . I see , so you understand yourself to be a 'real man' . And those that dont pump at the gym and dont have puffy muscles and dont get make up for photos are NOT the 'real' men ? They some kind of fake or inferior men , yeah ? Keep going with the posting here ... you are embarrassing yourself even more than I could !

Wait ! is that picture from the ' My New Step Mother ' site ?

Well, she died last year , so I hope you have a Ouija board .

At early stages in the womb some of us mutate into male .... a little something is missing ( one arm of the last ' X ' on the last pair of chromosomes is gone making it look like a ' Y ' ) . Then changes start ; the clitoris turns into a penis with a urethra through it . The sex organs drop so the vagina becomes a scrotum, the ovaries become testicles and the fallopian tubes are the vas deferens , etc . Yes guys ... you are mutated women

composting toilet generates its own heat and you should not piss in a dry composting toilet . regarding sitting all the way down - a mystery might have been solved . When I worked as a hospital orderly I once got an emergency call to the geriatric unit . I rushed there and a nurse asked me to sort out a problem with a patient stuck in the toilet . Somehow he had trapped his testicles under the lift up toilet seat . I couldnt pull them out as he was sitting on the seat , I couldnt lift him off the seat as his balls where trapped under it . I had to call for assistance to another orderly and together we lifted him and the seat up together and released him . But ... how did he get them trapped under there in the first place ! It remained a mystery . Until someone offered ; " Maybe he 'rode' the seat down? " So folks , maybe , finally , a 'man reason' not to 'leave the seat up ' .

I agree ! EVERYDAY I am shocked at what I see ... especially on those REALLY bad porn sites ! And at the local porn shop ! And inside the local brothel ! Its disgusting !