Nungali

Errrrmmmm .... if you can post it here OFF THE INTERNET ( Spongebobfandom.com ) .... that doesnt really show that you thought up something that is NOT on the internet . No trophy for you !

Yes, thats the 'theory' ; " Theoretically, this process can go on indefinitely, effectively rendering the jellyfish biologically immortal,[3][7] although in practice individuals can still die. " and ; " This definition of immortality has been challenged in the Handbook of the Biology of Aging,[1] because the increase in rate of mortality as a function of chronological age may be negligible at extremely old ages, an idea referred to as the late-life mortality plateau. The rate of mortality may cease to increase in old age, but in most cases that rate is typically very high." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_immortality I suppose if they really where immortal , the Gods that cursed life with death must have missed the jellyfish ? I'd say nature is natural . But thats just me . I would say 'pretty unnatural ' . Human head trips unrelated to any process in nature seem unnatural to me . As is the idea of ; ' this imposition of death on humans by gods who don't choose it for themselves nor let humans choose. '

OR , some indigenous not plagued with obsessive ideas about 'the self' , individuality, ego, etc see something similar to waht you describe, as 'awareness' back through a sting of ancestors . probably accessed via 'genetic consciousness' ; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight-circuit_model_of_consciousness#7._(Leary)The_neurogenetic_circuit_(Wilson)The_morphogenetic_circuit[39][40]

I think the imposition of death from the Gods is a farce . Look at nature , what is immortal , look at humans , they are a part of nature , so why should they be immune to death ? Besides, the 'Gods' are immortal because they are not 'life' they are concepts, ideas and forces , not having mortality.

I find this interesting , thanks. Especially the 'attributes' given to sunrise . My practice was to do dawn but also at noon, sunset and midnight ; each 'station of the sun' , with each its own 'attributes' to incorporate into the self .

I've got just the place for you ! Near my place , the Great Eastern Divide , mountain range , comes close to the coast , it drops off in an escarpment , you can look east, across the canopy of ancient Gondwanaland rainforest , over the ocean and watch the Sun rise . Or even easy access for the disabled (or just lazy ) on the 'skywalk' up in the canopy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gondwana_Rainforests

Well, like most things, human greed ruins it . Small scale regional farming would be better , but, of course, multi corps take them over and turn them into conglomerated enviro destroying animal concentration camps . For example , if I go up the mountain on the plateau and got to Plateau Butchery , all meat there is locally produced, and as you drive through the area you can see the cows wandering around in large fields of green, with streams and copses of trees . The pork and chicken supplies come from local free range farms , the local trout hatchery probably crowds fish into ponds . The soil is good, grows good organic veg and its a famous good potato area . Local slaughtering used to happen, but nowadays its the horror round up and trip by truck down the coast to an abattoir , then truck the meat back to the butchers - how stupid is that . In other places mobile abortion trucks have been set up , they drive on to the farm - cows in one end , meat and by products out the other , farmer can then sell them direct to butcher . But this is a bit of a 'backwater' ( thank goodness ) and 'modern civilisation' has not taken over completely yet .

I can only do the first bit ....

Well, that sounds a LOT better than " fear God " . (it also sounds like the 'religion of Nuit ' )

The 'talent' over there is .... 'astounding ' Man ... you gonna shake ? Well shake it then ! ; WAIT! What's that guy doing @ 0:39 ! ?

No , but you have to post it here to win the prize .... there is a prize trophy involved with this award !

Since you specifically mentioned ' boost my defences with spiritual shielding warding magick' (and spelled magick with a k) the SPECIFIC magical ritual for defence, shielding and warding is the Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram (LBR) . It is recommended practice before any operation , including meditation and some also recommend a morning and night performance , after and before sleeping , for the very purpose you propose . [ These types of rituals work 2 ways , the first is recommended for beginners and might be used for many years , or forever . It is shielding, repulsing, banishing and making a safe place for yourself . The 2nd is more tricky and more advanced , it is more like owning it and balancing any 'opposing force' by invoking its opposite - this is related to a few comments people here have made in the this thread about dealing with the problem in a different way . Unless you are an advanced practitioner and know the 'ins and outs' ( yourself and 'environmental forces' ), I highly recommend the first approach and rituals like LBR ( or 'Rose Cross Ritual' , etc .) They do use 'mantra' or 'words of power' but also a whole range of other techniques layered into the ritual ; light invocation and charging of the self with it , vibrating 'divine names' and words , casting sigils in the air , visualising and invoking angels of protection and elemental forces , establishing a 1/4 in each direction and radiating out force from there, linking them into a circle , affirming your position in this 'cosmos' and then a 2nd light invocation and charging . At the end of the ritual (it only takes a few minutes ) you should feel surrounded by a reflective sphere of energy . In this tradition, it is considered rather foolish to attempt operations without doing this before and after them . I would NEVER do ritual on internet ... but this guy shows a reasonable demonstration; There are directions written about it all over the internet . Practised over time, it is very effective on a few different levels . Of course, this appears to have derived from a Judaeo-Christian tradition , you can use the same principles and substitute God names and deities from your own cultural tradition . There are also banishing with fire and air (incense) salt and water (asperge ) with incantations like ; (Mix salt and water ) ; " Let the salt of the earth mix with the waters of the great sea ." (offer them) ; " Mother , be thou adored ." (walk around the room or circle sprinkling it ) ; " Earth and water where thou be cast, let no evil power last , let all be in accord with me , as I do will so mote it be . " and so on . You can do this before the LBR as well .

So ? When wasn't it problematic ? Ummm ... wot ? I see you have made that decision already Are you saying 'species' have a choice in cooperating with 'evolutions' ? Oooo ... ummm , maybe read up a bit on how evolution works . Cut off the head ? LOTS of stuff . Maybe you mean what does the human mind give humans that no other animals have ? I will agree with this bit ^ . Yup , agree with that too . That is why talking up new activities , especially in old age , and ones that rely on forging new neural pathways related to hand eye co-ordination are good for the brain .

Mostly different . Different in that the 'dweller' or guardian of a particular path process or thing is seen as an external force and can mean a whole lot of different things depending on the tradition. And that ego is seen as an internal force that an mean a whole lot of different things depending on the tradition. Both have accreted modern pop concepts , the first , like many things , we blame the Theosophists . The second, Freud . Although the Theosophists use the concept of 'ego' in their system ;

Those already infected will be rounded up and kept in one of our ex- immigration detention centres . ( That gives rich holidaying Aussies the chance to experience what we do to to other people in trouble that want to come here . ) ... HEY ! Wait a minute ..... what about the indigenous population that ALREADY lived on Christmas Island (ex detention centre now a quarantine centre ) ?

? Why not ? Put it in a secret box

Mhe ...... the cowans always say that .

On my club tab, it says I am a member of several clubs .

I could make you a member of the Nungali , ' Hey Dude ! You-thought-up-something-that-isnt-even-on-the-internet club ! ' - but you have to think up the thing first .

Pop quiz ? What is an ego ? a ) b ) c ) d) e) One of the three constructs in Sigmund Freud's structural model of the psyche f) g) All of the above . ,

Lets not dignify this subject with comparisons to Sade or Rand - this has been an expose of lower astral, dirty ego smut desires with a dose of manipulation under a thin guise of 'spiritual help' internet proto cult . It infiltrated the forum , and was ( mostly ) purged ( but expect the occasional re-emergence of the past symptoms) .

i think the original premise given to you is wrong ; " return to the subconscious whilst escaping the clutches of the ego " - unless one has a very different understanding of the term 'subconscious' . I suggest exchanging subconscious with superconscious . Otherwise you just in 'normal consciousness' with all its ego implications .... or are in a subconscious state , which is not very good for functioning , on any level . https://www.ananda.org/ask/levels-of-consciousness-and-what-they-represent/

In a different way , you pre-empted what I was about to write . Like many things ego is not a problem IF we are aware of it - as stated in the OP . It can actually be a tool instead of a problem, as long as we understand its function and its right place in the inner personal hierarchy . Like 'mind' it rises to a position of control due to vacuum . If the spirit or higher aspects of the self ... or ' a vast impersonal space whereby all form is born and all form dies' .... or even a 'selflessness' or 'an over riding compassion for others , etc is missing or undeveloped , then the ego will rise , grow , swell and fill the void .