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They work by people joining together in an association dedicated to a particular interest , sport or activity.
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Lookit me ! I got a woman in my car ! Hmmmmm .... not really trying ;
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a similar principle - if you take all the money , tourists numbers drop . Lots of tourists $5 each ..... raking it in .
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You should try making prep 500 in biodyamics , it requires one to fill up hollow cow horns with cow poop . At work we had to make heaps of them , so we do 'an open day' and 'teach' people how to do it , FOR FREE ! Some guy converted an old sausage making machine , that worked like an evil Mr Whippy snow cone ( except the 'ice cream' was not vanilla 'flavour' and the cone was bone ) occasionally air would get caught in it and the machine would fart . Some times a big fart would spray out some 'cream' and blat it onto the 'helpers' . (not me , I always positioned myself at the other side as a 'filler' )
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I'll pay you to insult me . It has to be a good one though .
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I like the Sufi story about the 'beggar' that got paid for being stupid . His stupidity was " Oh no, thats too much money, give me less . " . People thought it was funny to see a 'stupid' beggar ask for less money and not more . So they would take their friends to watch hand him a large amount of money, then the beggar would complain and give most of it back , and everyone would laugh at him . One day, a more compassionate fellow asked him why he did not just take the large amounts of money, and soon, he could stop being a beggar and establish himself in some business or something . The beggar told the man " Oh no, that sounds like I might have to do some hard work . Also, if I started accepting large amounts of money, people would soon stop offering it . If I originally just accepted the usual amount and never gave any back, I would be like every other beggar - poor and destitute . But by doing this, many rich people come here everyday and give me lots of money to show off in front of their friends how stupid I am and how smart they are .... by giving me their money .
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Here is me ' getting into Consciousness with the One ' * : Kids are playing in my yard , I see a large bamboo culm tilt over and crash on to the ground - I thought I had heard a sawing noise previously ! So I go outside , they had found a pruning saw and where 'practising ' . I asked them not to do that. Back inside I see it happening again . Outside, tell them again and take them to some lantana that needs pruning back , 'saw that up' . Five mins later , same thing , bamboo , timbeeer ! Go back outside , chuck a tantie , confiscate the saw and tell them to behave or F off . Then again ! They must have gone and got the saw ... little buggers ! So now I have got them out on the front lawn telling them off , but one of them is smirking and smart mouths me and ' ... so ? What are YOU gonna do about it . " " What am I going to do .... WHAT AM I GOING TO DO ? I ..... " - these recent events had distracted me from the late afternoon thunderclouds coming in from the west (and screened by forest ), a common occurrence at that time of year - they can come out of 'nowhere ' - the kids probably had noticed it either . " I'll tell you what I will do ! " and rose up and stretched my hands up wondering what to say, or scream or just breath out and do nothing or ... but a terrific flash went off with a huge thunderclap . It scared me just as much as them , but I didnt let on I just bought my arms down and ROARED as hard as I could . And, you know what's it like when near a thunder strike - your .... 'everything ' is frazoomeld .... hair standing up, etc . It was hilarious to see those three little ones, turn and scamper , full pelt down my driveway, leaving little puffs of dust behind them , they going so fast effen hilarious ! Then another thunderclap and I am standing there shaking my fist at them and " RRARRRRRGHHH ! " They didnt look back . - Good boys after that ..... well, with me anyway . I knew it was coincidence or 'good timing ' and funny , but they ... * The 'One ' in this case , probably Mars . I was possessed by the 'Spirit of Mars ' . .
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Regarding have a 'spirit guide' or an ' immortal ' or 'a Kongming' or whatever name or term one wants to use ; I am not going to comment specifically on Josh's experience, as I am NOT a Daoist ( ) but generally , across most cultures through time , I have observed this as a common human dynamic , for many . Jung's Philamon is the classical example . We also have Blavatski's Old (or King ) John , and a heap of others . In or out of tradition , its a human dynamic . I have one as well , been with me since I was a child . And of course, has nothing to do with any tradition ( excepting that some traditions recognise this 'entity ' under different cultural names ; there are 'classes' types of them , or even maybe 'neters' ). A big part of practising magic is finding ones essential nature, and the essential nature if this being (or 'archetype' if one prefers) . Really, without this, a 'magician' is not a whole person or developing properly . The thing is, as I said before , there are different types , one needs to 'invoke' ones higher 'Genius ' or higher 'Daimon ' . and regulate and control one's 'demons ' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daemon_(classical_mythology) “Philemon and other figures of my fantasies brought home to me the crucial insight that there are things in the psyche which I do not produce, but which produce themselves and have their own life. Philemon represented a force which was not myself. In my fantasies I held conversations with him, and he said things which I had not consciously thought. For I observed clearly that it was he who spoke, not I. He said I treated thoughts as if I generated them myself, but in his view thoughts were like animals in the forest, or people in a room, or birds in the air, and added, “If you should see people in a room, you would not think that you had made those people, or that you were responsible for them.” It was he who taught me psychic objectivity, the reality of the psyche. Through him the distinction was clarified between myself and the object of my thought. He confronted me in an objective manner, and I understood that there is something in me which can say things that I do not know and do not intend, things which may even be directed against me.” ― Carl Gustav Jung, Memories, Dreams, Reflections This is fairly essential psychology / 'psychic anatomy ' , IMO you cant say 'you should not be doing this ' - to some people, it 'just happens ' anyway . One final point ; there are 2 schools of thought on this ; 1. That it is dangerous knowledge and not should not be 'unleashed' as there are forces that can disrupt one's psyche . Its best left sleeping, and we have got on pretty good as is, without bringing all this stuff 'into the light ' . My answer to that is .... are not many psyche's disrupted already and need healing , and DO WE get on pretty good ? I mean - look at the state of things . 2. Teach instruct and be aware of these forces ( Steiner , advocated this , along with Swedenborg and many other teachers ) - its better to understand and DEAL with something than ignore it and let it run tour life without you being aware of it ... especially if it is a negative manifestation . (Positive manifestations can dispel negative ones, but not visa versa { see the work of VanDusen and others } , so we have some hope here for those 'afflicted' . )
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I Apologise To The Universe For Not Being Sincere Enough In My Endeavours To Become Enlightened
Nungali replied to Heartbreak's topic in General Discussion
Ooops ... it wasnt one word yangman it was two words ' yang man ' Nope , we dont got one of them ; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yang_Man ( I never knew you played football ! ) -
I Apologise To The Universe For Not Being Sincere Enough In My Endeavours To Become Enlightened
Nungali replied to Heartbreak's topic in General Discussion
We got a little nation of those guys here ; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yangman -
yes, thanks . I had a look through them a bit ....... oh dear . Oh well, such is the way of the world, nowadays .... and the internet . In the version I did one could ask for 'possession' or 'communication' (and they used a type of 'chakra system' activation to achieve one or the other ) . I opted for communication as I wanted to drum for the ceremony , which I had not done before and wanted to learn the rhythms . Great stuff ! eg 1 :50 WHAAAAT ! You haven't been doing that ! You need to be aware of ..... Where is it 'coming forward' from ? In light of what you said above , I am sure you will find those links interesting .
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I Apologise To The Universe For Not Being Sincere Enough In My Endeavours To Become Enlightened
Nungali replied to Heartbreak's topic in General Discussion
You're a man ! ??? -
Its easy . Just imagine your body 'over there ' (maybe doing something that is familiar , an exercise or something ) now , transfer your consciousness into the form you imagined . ie, dont think from 'here' .... think from 'over there' . Yes. Its easy . . .
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I Apologise To The Universe For Not Being Sincere Enough In My Endeavours To Become Enlightened
Nungali replied to Heartbreak's topic in General Discussion
" Dont worry about it Son . Take some time off , relax . Just dont think about me for a while . Go and enjoy the planet a bit and have some sex . " -
What one practice has brought the most benefit to your life?
Nungali replied to alchemystical's topic in General Discussion
Gratitude and appreciation as a 'practice' of ritual and mind set . For a more concrete practice , Liber Resh . But I did this for many many years , some times 4 times a day ( at each 1/4 of the Sun ), every day for months on end . I imagine any good practice done 4 times a day every day would bring long term benefit . . -
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You didnt do the exercise and post the results first ! Okay then ..... I am low on compassion today ....
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Thanks for the hint . Now for the next part ..... while doing this , lift your other leg off the ground .... any hints on how to achieve this , please post here ;
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< Phew > ... morning 'tea' time / coffee recharge . You probably know the following, I'll just comment here in case others might be interested ; Similar with concept of a consecrated temple and within 'the magic circle ' . Or a sphere ( which also goes through the ground and under the magician ) Thats handy . I spent weeks and weeks making, purifying and consecrating each 'tool' separately . 'The Licence to Depart ' . Is this possession or 'invocation' ? Some systems dont like possession , others like voodoo seem to have no issue about it . { an example of 'testing possession' in a voodoo ceremony I went to . A rather mischievous chap was saying he was possessed by a certain Loa . That Loa's offering and favourite food included chilli , chilli oil was on that Loa's segment on the offering altar up behind his veve . So one of the people there goes and gets a bottle of chilli oil and goes up to this guy .... " Then you will love to drink this ." " Errrmmmm .... " He drank it .... and he handled it VERY well .... but you could see a supreme effort was required ...... his face was pretty funny as he was 'enjoying ' it . } That is one indication . Wilson Van Dusen lists differences between 'bad and good' 'spirits' and' hallucinations' (he uses the term hallucinations as he worked in a psych hospital and observed ' possession') . He decided to test these good and bad 'spirits' one indicator was ; Good 'possessing' spirits can give information that seems beyond what the 'possessee ' could know . The bad ones cant , they can only have knowledge that the person does . They claim to be able to but use lies, trickery, diversions, insults (straw men and ad hominem ... wait ! why is this sounding familiar ? ) I've put this up a few times , you might find it interesting ; http://www.theisticpsychology.org/books/w.vandusen/presence_spirits.htm https://maps.org/research-archive/psychedelicreview/n11/n11063dus.pdf 'Concrete reason ' - indeed . I was taught to write up each ritual before hand , like I used to do in school science when doing an experiment . The first heading was AIM . then method, equipment, preparations , ritual, closing . Then notes and observations during and afterwards and finally CONCLUSION . .
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more later ... gotta go chainsaw up a fallen down tree in my garden .
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I think this is why an esoteric occult forum was set up within this site . That might be a better place to post such stuff ? Maybe I should visit these sites you mention and check them out . I actually first came here due to a linked hit I got on evocation .
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The funny thing is , last night I turn on TV movie channel SBS and the first thing I see is 3 crazy Chinese magicians demanding who is the demon , one has huge mirror that he points at them , one has a collection of papers talismans and 'stuff' the third does some magical kung moves ( winding up ), solid stance , hand mudra and 'kapow ' ! Blasts the chi hand mudra, mirror goes off like a laser beam , incantations .... nothing . 2nd person - nothing . 3rd person - she transforms into a spider and attacks them . 'Synchronicity ' .... love it !
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Okay, I see that a similar dynamic happens east to west ( here on DBs, and other places ) . Thanks for response . As far as I can tell , Western Magicians (or those that claim to be ) are slack about this as well . Most people that are aware of it and criticise dont practice magic , they just say " are you guys nuts ? How do you know it is isnt ..... would you let someone in your house if they just claimed to be .... (so and so ) ... etc . Looking forward to your longer responses , thanks, ( I know you are busy and have little time for this - as you tell us each time you post )
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I meant our OP here . YOU told me you would do it on the weekend , didnt you ? I thought thats what you said ? Do you mean to say you posted here without trying it and against my rules ? If you try it now, I will let you off .