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Well, 'energy vortex is kinda general , what type sort to you mean ? I have experience with several 'phenomena' that could be called such . I suppose the first classifications are either intersections or gateways ( they can be both ) and 'good or bad' , like in dowsing its usually intersections of lines or streams of energy. A good one can give amplification of other energies in it's field . 'Down here' we dont call them ley lines ( well, some nongs do ! ) , they are 'dreaming lines' , some follow song lines . Got one right through the cabin , ; it starts in a birth pool down at the river , up the very steep side, through my place , out across the paddock, through 'Snake Gully' at 'Fairy Glenn Creek , up 'Pyramid Hill' , and 'nodes' near the 'lightening spot ' * , up to the steep back ridge and 'ends' (actually 'nodes out ' ) as the ridge drops down its very steep south side . Its taken 15 years of experience there and absorbing / learning plus elucidation from Aboriginal Elders (including my teacher) to map that out . So, the lightening spot is 'sore spot' , 'charge in' fire , lightening , watch out for that . Birth hole / pool is charge in , but water earth. Then it goes to my place / node, charge out - water earth . the 'end is node out , earth air . So, if you 'dream' safely past the lightening , to end .... you can come back in somewhere else , far across country - one step . Before I knew what the hell was going on there , I was both flummoxed and amazed at the vivid dreams I was having, I would be walking up the back ridge to the top, step and .... the in the dream I would be some where else , trying to figure out how the helI got there ( as its not like an ordinary dream, where surreal things happen and scene can chop and change ) . There is a lot more to be said about that, and the lightening spot , and the associated regolith and structure , quartz seams , etc . Not sure if this is what you are chasing ? I also have done magical ritual ceremony using energy vortex . Done some dowsing and remedial geomantic work ( at a 'stone age farming' workshop I went to ) , thats about lines and intersections . I also helped my mate in the film industry understand why his extremely high tech stabilising gear.was going haywire in some outback locations He uses these maps now ; ; One of Washington might me interesting ? Anyway, depends what you mean and what your bag is ? As long as it isn't ....

I see , you are now claiming that because the majority of 'Christian countries' are less homophobic it validates your statement of : "" FFS, You do realize that CHRISTIANITY is the primary cause for virulent racism, homophobia, transphobia, etc in the world today??? " because " Christianity is still far more influential in population numbers and global spheres of influence. " So, because they are less homophobic they are the primary cause becasue they have more influence in the world than others . .... And they won because of fights with Christians .... so that makes Christians the cause does it ? AND ! If you had said 'Abrahamic religion s ' instead of 'Christianity' , in the first place .... we would not be even having this conversation - genius ! . Oh yeah , and you sorta skimmed past the death penalty stuff . Isn't gay people being put to death a strong enough point for you to take into account ? Or do you just ignore those mostly Islamic countries that put gays to death as it doesn't support your attempt at 'proving stuff ' ? .

Gendao , I think most here agree with you about the bad aspects of Christianity and the bad historical record it has . Personally I see an insidious, negative, suppressive, guilt-trip, programme running through its indoctrination. But anyone new or outside or removed from the dynamics of the ongoing argument between you and EG , after reading your above post would think we are all supporters of Christianity . The thing is , THAT wasnt the original complaint protest or argument at all . YOU made it that , and that was part of the cause of frustration to EG . I dont know, that might have been your intent ? But as much as this Christian philosophy and religion go directly against and in opposition to my own philosophy and religion , I dont see how you can push the above 'facts ' regarding suppressions of homosexuals and others in other countries . I mean, look at this : " Notably, as of 2019, 28 countries recognize same-sex marriage, they are: Argentina, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, Colombia, Denmark, Ecuador, Finland, France, Germany, Greenland, Iceland, Ireland, Luxembourg, Malta, Mexico, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Portugal, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, Taiwan, the United Kingdom, the United States and Uruguay.[1] " - now, I would say those countries have a lot of Christians and Christian influence in them . " By contrast, 6 countries effectively impose the death penalty on consensual same-sex sexual acts, with three in Asia (Iran, Saudi Arabia and Yemen) and three in Africa (Nigeria (the northern states), Sudan and Somalia (Jubaland region)). " Are they predominantly Christian , or Moslem ? Religion in Iran. Sunni and Shi'i are the two largest branches of Islam, with the overwhelming majority of Iranians practicing Shi'i Islam. About 90 percent of Iranians practice Shi'ism, the official religion of Iran Nigeria, the most populous African country (with a population of over 200 million in 2018),[2] is nearly equally divided between Christianity and Islam, though the exact ratio is uncertain. Saudi Arabai - The official form of Islam is Sunni of the Hanbali school, in its Salafi version. According to official statistics, 75–85% of Saudi Arabian citizens are Sunni Muslims, 10–15% are Shia. (More than 30% of the population is made up of foreign workers who are predominantly but not entirely Muslim.) Yemen is an Islamic society. Nearly all Yemenis are Muslims, with approximately 56% belonging to the Shafi'i Sunni school of thought and approximately 44% belonging to the Zaydi Shia school of thought. There are also approximately 1,000 Christians and 50 Jews. Sudan, with 97% of the country's population adhering to Islam. The vast majority of Muslims in Sudan are Sunni belonging to the Maliki school of Islamic jurisprudence. Protestants are about 5% of the population mainly in the south. Roman Catholics are 3.2%. The major religion in Somalia is Islam. There is a small Christian community in Somalia mainly living amongst Somali Muslims in the Banaadir region. In addition, the death penalty is a possible punishment in 6 other countries: Afghanistan, Brunei, Mauritania, Pakistan, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates. Iraq has been removed from this list following the elimination of the Islamic State (ISIL/ISIS), it remains as a "de facto" criminalising country due to reports of State prosecution using laws on public indecency, prostitution or others. suppressive, guilt-trip, programme running through its indoctrination. Guess what the main religion is in these countries ? So yes, in answer to your question ; " FFS, You do realize that CHRISTIANITY is the primary cause for virulent racism, homophobia, transphobia, etc in the world today??? " Errrmmmm , no we dont . I mean, it might be ' a' cause ..... but certainly not worthy of a ranting , for fuck's sake, bolded, underlined PRIMARY triple question mark , a - la - gendao post, cause . So .... what other 'facts' ya got in that bag of (failed ) tricks of yours ?

What that music coming out of it ? Any suggestions ?

Yeah ! and not only that ....... < grunt > ...... < scape > ...... < drag > ...... Give me a hand will ya - to drag this thing over and point it at him .

Yeah ... real easy isn't it ? Nearly as easy as starting up an argument and posing a whole lot of questions and criticisms at someone who just took stress leave and isn't here . Interesting that you call people who question immortality 'cowards' . I wonder what drives your quest for immortality ? It doesnt really matter as you, for sure, like the rest of us are going to die . And this isnt some hope or promise or religious belief , it reality, for EVERY LIVING BEING on this planet . Thats why no one can demonstrate immortality for you . So why complain about it . Me , personally , I want to fly I want to FLY ! Can you prove some spiritual authority has flying abilities? Scientifically that is? If so please provide evidence. Until then spirituality doesn't need gurus or masters telling people what to do when they can't fly . You don't have authority, if you cant fly. Nobody is an authority on spiritual matters, not some Celestial Master, not the Dalai Lama, not the Pope, nobody, because they cant fly . . So sorry to burst your superiority bubble. Guess who the real supremacist is, the guy kissing some false authority's ass so he can talk about his supposed authority, but none of them can fly . You can't go flying by holding your masters hand.

No ... white people are not a minority and other white people are not 'other' minorities . And white people can validly make criticisms, observations, and prejudices about other white people without it being ethnic discrimination. * Canadians Australians and Brits are not ethnically different . We are all a mix of different types . "Canadians , Australians and Brits " are terms of nationality , not ethnicity . * Thats why a black person can make a n***** joke , and feely say <that word> . But apparently there is ONE occasion when it is okay for a white person to say the ' N word ' . I know this because a black person told me so .

Now I know what you mean

Hmmmm ... yeeeeesss . So yesterday , I am sitting waiting for come chips at the beachside cafe here , as others are . Its taking some time . near me are 4 young holiday girls, teens ..... muckin up . One starts laughing and does the - cant stop, then everything makes you laugh, you are now gone to convulsing laughter, hard to get a breath - thing was, it was a really funny laugh ... a great crazy laugh. Her friends are"Shut up ! Embaras ING! " but that just made it worse . It finally stopped so I turned to stare at them ..... off again ... finally stops. So I ; " I wish I had my phone , I would record that ! " .... on again ... finally stops . Her fiend ; "You sound like a whale!" .... on again .... finally stops . Me ; " A BEACHED whale ! " .... on again .... finally stops Point is .... I was laughing like that through this thread . : Oh shit ! I'm off again . ... finally stops . Lets see what happens if I do ..... THIS { No it isn't another Christa McAuliffer joke ... I am looking it up on the internet .... it seemed good candidate for the Nunagli ' Hey Dude You thought up something NOT already on the internet award ' . But actually , I might have found the little bugger , ie. Projecty the Projecting Projector Amazon.com : Per Drawing Projector Set Cartoon Shape ... Per Drawing Projector Set Cartoon Shape Painting Desk Music Art Projection With 24 Patterns &12pcs Color Pen For Kids Learning And Doodle-Blue Sorry Walker . Close though . Perhaps a consolation prise ; Now you have done it ! DUDE! I used to put on that accent at work ... it lead to ALL sorts of ... things . What I can say here is , sometimes new people would " Oh , are you from South Africa ? " and I would lie and say yes and go with .... bosses and crew would crack up s they knew me and .... 'my prejudices' . Also , during the aftermath scuffle that ensued from such a 'joke' one time , I admitted I was racist - against whites . Maori workmate enlightened me " You're white, ya can't be racist against your own race ; that's not racism , thaat's shame . " Laundry bill for one sarong heading your way . Another one . You would think there is enough info out about this already - even for the casual beginning seeker .

You would have to prove to be immortal though .... according to Mr Turdsausage . I could help you with the demonstration ; Now .... what shall we try first ?

Well , he has made 50 posts and got uppity on his 2nd thread , as he came here to ask advice and didnt get what he expected ... that is ... he GOT the advice he asked for , just didnt like it . I detected this stream in him earlier on , thats why I offered him my shit sausage eater 'pun' Boerewors Boerewors ([ˈbuːrəvors]) a type of sausage which originated in South Africa, is an important part of South African cuisine and is popular across Southern Africa.

So , immortality (again ) then . To be a spiritual authority (even though the original discussion had nothing to do with spiritual authority ) you have to be immortal .

Oh ... so you relate 'spiritual authority' with 'spiritual abilities ' but not 'spirituality' ? Okay .... now, what exactly do YOU mean by 'spiritual abilities' ?

I went and read your 'introduction post ' (it wasnt ) that you complained about the 'reception' you got from EG - the very beginning of it (from you) and EG's first responses are telling .... to someone with an objective view .. Its rather disingenuous to start up a little war with someone that is absent and on 'stress leave ' ... unless you think he isnt and are trying to smoke him out . Also in the above you totally misunderstood the whole context of EG 's comment on authority ; it wasnt 'spiritual' but the authority of someone working in the field with real life experience . For eg . if someone with no in the field , in reality , experience of . say, refugee relocation, argued with me about that , I would say similar - they have no 'authority' . The comment related to gendao and his criticism of EG's humanitarian work . Eg asked gendao numerous times to show his work and expereince to prove EG wrong and show that he did have 'authority' ( ie due to personal experience ) to speak on the matter as he did . As far as I saw ; Gendao was not forthcoming with that . I think you just got a bit ***hurt when EG caned you for going against the valid advice (you first sought and asked for yourself ) that he and a few people here gave you . Now you got a chance to get ' even '

Stupid things ... invented horse riding raiders to keep their legs warm . I was explaining this recently to a female friend - woman should wear them ! Consider a man's anatomy , we dont need something with no space there and a seam right up the middle ! bring back the codpiece I say !

Canadian company plane - the three crew killed where from USA, over here helping us . Something sus about that plane ! Two others have gone down before , one had its wing break off . They have all been grounded now . A pity they where not grounded before this happened ! What a fuck up ! https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-23/large-air-tanker-c-130-water-bomber-crash-cooma/11894892 .

A kilt ? You look a bit Scottish ? What is worn under your kilt though ?

Bushfire threatens Canberra airport , but it seems to be under control now Water bomber jet down ! One of the big ones - MIA dont know much yet . Australian wildfires: Water-bomber plane in horror crash as ...

Hey ! No homophobia ! If peeps want to ' bam bum' thats their business !

Nah ... that just means you need a self imposed exile for a while . Bye bye . Here is a twist ; Ban Nungali ! ... now I need an exile from myself

yeah but ....... annoying ! WAIT ! OMG ! Finally ! >>>> thunderous revelation <<<<< ! I just realised how you guys put with your cats !

I just started getting into the geology of Baikal area . fascinating ! But then again, I am a bit of a geonut . - I stayed in a Maori camp on the 'other' side of Lake Taupo, the place parkia (white people) are not supposed to go ... by invite, that is . Its a diff geology than Baikal . The people in town, on the other side , said to leave and come over this side , all the good stuff happens here HA! Those guys ( the Maori on the land on other side ) , took me out on the lake in a jet boat, made me jump in (I didnt want to , I said , I'm gonna 'fall' to the bottom ' ... " get in there ya wuss ! ..... Dont be an eeig * " I'm floating on the surface , looking down , I dont know how far , to the bottom " Arrrghh !I'm gonna fall ! " and they rolling around with laughter , I went 'traditional Maori' duck hunting - with a rat trap , jet boated up the rapids and through near boiling water , etc . Fun ! * An egg is a New Zealand slang word for someone who is acting like a dumbass, clown or an idiot. However it is used as a nicer way of saying such things. A recent Kiwi movie called "Boy" uses this word several times. It also could be used instead of saying dick. "stop being a dick, bro '

I taught at a Steiner school for while . It was GREAT experience . But I cant agree with the second part of the above .... not 'everything '. Thats one good aspect . We did HEAPS of 'hands on' . They adopt other 'obscure' Christian religions and ceremony . Eg . from another tradition ; The PRIEST, issuing from the Tomb, holding the Lance erect with both hands, right over left, against his breast, takes the first three regular steps. He then gives the Lance to the PRIESTESS, and gives the three penal signs. .... The PRIEST makes the five crosses: ☩1 ☩3☩2 on paten and cup; ☩ 4 on paten alone; ☩ 5 on cup alone. here is some info on the roots of the influence on 'Christian Community' ; https://reverseritual.com/remembering-friedrich-rittelmeyer/ No, but they still have influence . I was listening to radio interview, man was complaining about what they said to his child , student and himself - My daughter showed me picture she painted and I said 'very Good'. But she said 'teacher said no, it isnt .' So I went to ask the teacher and she explained that the colours where all wrong ... too much brown, they didnt like to use brown as it isnt a pure colour, is associated with this and that (negative) , etc . she went on and one ... I was amazed that she didnt even seem to realise she was talking to a very brown Pakistani ! ... and the 'stuff' they teach the kids about 'history ' .... YES ! Part of the problem is that Steiner was an initiate of a certain tradition . At one stage it was close to the tradition I am an initiate of , so I understand him in a certain way ( eg, a LOT of 'The Theosophy of the Rosicrucian' is insightful and brilliant - in this tradition) . But Anthroposophists - generally are not such initiates , they follow Steiner , they do not attempt to become initiates like he was* . In my tradition we re encouraged to take on new developments and understandings. . . to nurture and develop the tradition , it isnt considered 'static' , its evolving . * Eg. I am at a dinner put on by Anthroposophists (when I worked in BD agriculture) . The focalizer declares (in a put on voice and snobby accent - for some reason ) " Steiner said ; 'The first task of the initiate is to encounter 'the dweller on the threshold ! ' " A guest ; " Oh ! Goodness ! But how does one become an initiate in the first place ." The other gets a look of surprise and (dropping her fake accent and reverts to using her 'Queensland Aussie drawl ' ; " Ahhhh ..... I dunno . " How efen embarrassing ! Another time ; in BD they use prep 501 , made from crushed quartz crystal . I had got a large supply of pure crushed topaz 'sand' . I suggested we could use this ( to use the benefits of topaz for other effects, like they used quartz for its effect). Response ? All of them : But Steiner never said to use topaz . I responded ; yes but what Steiner is explaining is the use of a specific mineral that can give effect in food production .... they all have an influence and use . We can look at all their uses and find the ones that have good agricultural effects and use them for that . - dumb looks all around and ' Steiner didnt say to do that . " Me ; Okay, but Steiner never said to use native casurina as a substitute of equisetum plant, but you do . No answer . But I know the answer .... some Steinerite ' with cred' channelled it ! These people dont even know the tradition Steiner trained in .... they are into Goethe , as Steiner was , but not Agrippa, a major source of Steiner's knowledge . ' Followers' . Lets not forget the addition of modern sciences as well ! For those that scoff at this , they need to remember that incorporation was what made the tradition in the first place , only they used the (now outmoded) science of that time - as you explained above in the bit I bolded. . Indeed . A lot of the symbolism carries over , but what if, for example, you are not Christian ? Thats why I chose another tradition of Rosicrucian ... a more modern one . And, it turns out (after I did a lot of research ) that some of the main pop schools of R+C today evolved spuriously from THIS tradition . Eg, I hold the title 'Sovereign Prince Rose Croix ' in this tradition and it took me many years, 8 initiations , study and integration periods, examinations , etc to get there. Spencer Lewis, who started A.M.O.R.C. ( Ancient { } Mystical Order Rosae Crucis ) broke away and formed his organisation after the first initiation (no where near R+C ! ) in this tradition . Steiner was an initiate of this tradition , while it was still Christian based , and broke off to form his own group based on his teachings and his understandings ... whas valid within this tradition as he had achieved the level of initiation and understanding to be able to do that . But, the world changed , and not all the western world continued to be ruled by Christianity . Anthroposophy ( 'Steinerism' ) is Christian mysticism .