Nungali

You should have put on 'black face' make up to say that . ....

Well, I would have to cite the writings of both Egypt and Sumer and compare them to demonstrate - which is beyond the scope of this thread . He is going on their literature , whether by an elite or a king or a slave owner , he is comparing one to the other . I am not condoning any form of slavery, of course , its just a comparison of the elements of their beliefs myths and writings. A cultural comparison, not an attempt to justify slavery . A background might help to understand , but thats also a veer off the subject , perhaps .

Oh dear, more crap ! I am not nor does TM need any 'spoonfeeding' , that was sent and clearly said so as a response to EG . Can you get anything right ? Others here know whats going on . You dont seem to be able to focus your attention, or comprehend what is happening Basically, you are out of your depth, and your Dunning - Kruger retorts aren't helping you . I suggest you take it to your other thread which you just necroed with these same posts and pics . If anyone else asked me this question, I would offer my opinion on it ... but not for you !

Well .... the Nile IS in Africa

Rice seems to be suggesting its about the rivers and that the T & G system was prone to more devastating flooding and droughts, where the Nile was more reliable . Since both cultures depended on the river so much and the river/s had been integrated into their psyche , he assumes this had an effect on their attitudes to nature , hence 'Gods' and life . It might go against things , but yes, slaves can be happy , it depends how they are treated . Even a promise of reward in the afterlife can make people happy ...... not that I condone such beliefs, but I am just thinking about a persons individual or collective happiness - to them ... to us it might seem a tragedy ! I guess we go on their writings , if they seem to be in wonder and ecstasy about their world and work, thats very different from people that bemoan and wail and feel unsecure and threatened .

No, not at all . This is what you do gendao and this is why people react to you the way they do . You asked several questions and made certain specific claims . I answered them . I am not going to rehash it here and disrupt the the thread more - if anyone wants to see it they can go to the other thread . Also I noticed you never came up with a valid response there , but came here into this thread and started it all up again here , without addressing ANY of the things you where previously demolished on .... instead, just citing 'lego block' explanations and posting a picture of lego blocks . As if I am going to say stacking lego blocks explains everything in the universe ... ridiculous, exaggerated and stupid retort ! Then again, maybe you are just posting stuff like this to disrupt this thread . Then again, maybe even that is beyond your awareness and you just convulsively spew stuff without forethought or consideration ? The more you go on with this the sillier you and your 'theories' are seen to be .

This is even more embarrassing for you than what you said in the other thread about ancient building techniques ! and that was VERY embarrassing. But then again, its your reputation ..... I suppose you can do whatever you want with it .

[ The bit that got 'edited' out ^ & : ] Rice talks about a basic difference between the Sumerians and Egyptians . The Sumerians where gloomy and class ridden, their Gods made lesser Gods to do their work for them, and then the lesser gods made people to do their work for them . Except Enki, the god of Earth, he seemed to be on peoples side . He cites other factors as well to do with location and climate . But the Egyptians seemed a lot happier and positive mostly, they worked in partnership with their Gods and seemed to rejoice in their work and country . It seemed more predictable , unlike Sumer, so that 'apprehension' was projected towards the gods . (Rice puts it a lot better than me of course , but because its a physical book I cant copy and paste here ) .

Oh dear ! My old long thread on the Aryans ( here on DBs somewhere ) is rolling in its grave ! We have to remember a LOT of this old stuff and its interpretations (via then mindset) is basically , not just western ( and of that time) but Biblical . ( Like a lot of New Age stuff that 'developed' by ignoring academia and re adopted old biblical racist stuff .) Basically, they didnt have that much else to go back then . Even the British Museum back then had Biblical exhibits explanations and timelines . The Timechart History of the World: 6000 Years of World History . Great empires, dynasties, rulers from King Solomon to present times - a panorama of history covering 40 centuries before Christ and 20 centuries after his birth. Over 30 feet of history, with more than 400 illustrations providing a complete overview of each civilizationshistory. Based on the famous and now very rare Victorian wallchart with much material specially reproduced form the world famous British Library.Hhere is the page that shows development in Mesopotamia ; apparently from Nimrod ... from Cush ... from Ham ... from Noah . They didnt even know anything before 'Chaldea' A book I am reading at the moment ; 'Egypt's Making' by Michael Rice outlines the early Mesopotamian influences on Egyptian culture. ( Something I wrote elsewhere ) ; Well, 'the two lands' where not unified all the time . Perhaps northern / lower valley cultures had an influx of development from the Levant and southern / upper valley had influx from Mesopotamia ? Wadi Hammamat seems a key area ; the river snakes to the east , the wadi shows cave art of perhaps the beginnings of Pharaonic culture ( see Toby Wilkinson - ' Genesis of the Pharaohs ' *) . It then travels east to Quseir on the Red Sea where they have found the oldest maritime port in the world yet found . The book I am reading at the moment postulates a trade link across Arabia ( and a lot more about Arabian influence ). There is also a sea trade link from BMAC ( for lapis and other things ) through to IVC and then by sea to Quseir . Perhaps there was an overland route through Iran as well ? * Also in this book Wilkinson starts off with some good info about the history of interpreting these things, how it passed through the Biblical age, and age of predominately western Euro academics, then others including the 3rd world got their academics and views broadened and then he goes on to the modern approach of 'evidence based' archaeology. He cites the above 'Empire model' view ; ' that many cultures and ancient civilizations, such as the Indus Valley Civilization, Minoan Crete, Phoenicia, and Dynastic Egypt, were the product of Aryan Sumerian colonists. ' as the beginning of the problem because the finds in the Wadi Hammarmat where the same ones these old school archaeologists and Toby himself where looking at . Now this old school model is out ... BUT ... there is still a lot of answered stuff about what these finds indicate , like in the Rice book . Rice also makes a case ( I havent got to that part yet ) about unknown developments and hints of it in the Arabian Peninsular . ( Sorry, editing probs )

Here you go then - K.3364 - Wiki .

... well, at least he has given up on his " modern cranes can only lift up to 200kg ..... we havent ever been able to move anything big like the ancients did .... we dont know how they built this stuff ..... " rant . But now, apparently , not only the Matrix movie has 'significance' but now 'Mad Max' as well .... somehow .... ? wtf ?

" Psychometric archaeology " ? " could a winged disk simply be an emblem for a flying disk AKA flying saucer " yes - discounting the Sun that every person of every place and every culture sees ' flying ' across the sky every day it could SIMPLY be a ' flying saucer ' instead .

Your sources REALLY suck ! if one cared to look at this 'reference' .... one would realise its the 'guys' that I often cite as a stupid joke ( Out of Australia Theory ) If you want to cite some real research, I suggest NOT the Strong Brothers . What is Stephen Stong's credentials and experiences ? He is an ex primary school teacher from Mullumbimby - a small regional dope growing centre These advanced qualifications lead him to suppose that ; " Religion, art, burial, sailing, astronomy, navigation, democracy, gender equality and all the nobler hallmarks of civilised behaviour, are Original blessings exported from Australia. There is ample archaeological evidence of the highest pedigree of an ancient sophisticated technology operating in Australia that is still unequalled by today's standards. " Of course Gendao will know nothing of this as he does no research whatsoever ... just hunts copies and posts internet rubbish that agrees with his re formed views . - now that I have dared to expose him (yet again ) , I guess he will go for me now ....... like he did to Earl Grey .

I shouldn't tease people while they still have a Christmas hangover ......

He didnt ? see 5. ^ “We can state with certainty that the universe is all center, or that the center of the universe is everywhere and the circumference nowhere.” — Giordano Bruno, 1584

The best part will be the reception ;

I think he means, that some thoughts are useful and we must think, otherwise we just zombies and loose the mental facilities Crowley (and many others) advocated a balanced perspective of the 4 powers , based on the elements ; fire water air earth, with air being rational and structured thought ; 16. To obtain Magical Power, learn to control thought; admit only those ideas that are in harmony with the end desired, and not every stray and contradictory Idea that presents itself. 17. Fixed thought is a means to an end. Therefore pay attention to the power of silent thought and meditation. The material act is but the outward expression of thy thought, and therefore hath it been said that “the thought of foolishness is sin.” Thought is the commencement of action, and if a chance thought can produce much effect, what cannot fixed thought do? 18. Therefore, as hath already been said, Establish thyself firmly in the equilibrium of forces, in the centre of the Cross of the Elements ... - Liber Librae

A wave is just one particle saying goodbye to another

Is it ? “God is an infinite sphere, the center of which is everywhere, the circumference nowhere.” — Hermes Trismegistus or possibly Aristotle, Book of the 24 Philosophers, 12th Century “God is an intelligible sphere, whose center is everywhere, and whose circumference is nowhere.” — Alain of Lille “By God’s power, presence, and essence, God is the One whose center is everywhere and whose circumference is nowhere. God exists uncircumscribed in everything. God is, therefore, all inclusive. God is the essence of everything. God is most perfect and immense: within all things, but not enclosed; outside all things, but not excluded; above all things, but not aloof; below all things, but not debased. Finally, therefore, this God is all in all…. Consequently, from him, through him and in him, all things exist.” — St. Bonaventure, 13th Century “God is an infinite circle whose center is everywhere and whose circumference is nowhere.” — Nicholas of Cusa (1401 – 1464) “We can state with certainty that the universe is all center, or that the center of the universe is everywhere and the circumference nowhere.” — Giordano Bruno, 1584 “The soul is not a circle in the sense of the geometric figure but in that it at once contains the Primal Nature as centre and is contained by it as circumference [… We] hold through our own centre to the centre of all the centres, just as the centres of the great circles of a sphere coincide with that of the sphere to which all belong. Thus we are secure.” — Plotinus “The whole visible world is only an imperceptible atom in the ample bosom of nature. No idea approaches it. We may enlarge our conceptions beyond all imaginable space; we only produce atoms in comparison with the reality of things. It is an infinite sphere, the center of which is everywhere, the circumference nowhere. In short, it is the greatest sensible mark of the almighty power of God that imagination loses itself in that thought.” — Pascal “O God, thou art an intelligible sphere, whose centre is everywhere, whose circumference is nowhere but in thyself.” — Joseph Hall, sermon, 1600s “God is that Sacred Circle of All-Being, of Infiniteness, of Eternity, whose Center is everywhere, in the smallest Point of Things; whose Circumference is no where bounded.” — Peter Sterry, The Appearance of God to man, 1710 “God is a sphere whose center is everywhere and whose circumference is nowhere.” The Blessed and Boundless God, George Swinnock “O Zarathustra… to those who think as we do, all things themselves are dancing: they come and offer their hands and laugh and flee and come back. Everything goes, everything comes back; eternally rolls the wheel of being. Everything dies, everything blossoms again; eternally runs the year of being. Everything breaks, everything is joined anew; eternally the same house is being built. Everything parts, everything greets every other thing again; eternally the ring of being remains faithful to itself. In every Now, being begins; round every Here rolls the sphere There. The center is everywhere. Bent is the path of eternity.” — Friedrich Nietzsche, Thus Spoke Zarathustra, a Book for All and None (1884) “The origins of the metaphor of the infinite sphere have been traced to Empedocles through the writings of thirteenth century encyclopaedist Vincent de Beauvais, although it can no longer be found in the fragmentary remains of his poetry.” — Brian Parshall “The Library is a sphere whose exact center is any hexagon and whose circumference is unattainable.” — Jorge Luis Borges “Tao is always nameless. Small as it is in its Primal Simplicity, It is inferior to nothing in the world.” — Tao Te Ching “God is an intelligible sphere — a sphere known to mind, not to the senses — whose center is everywhere and whose circumference nowhere.” — Joseph Campbell, Power of Myth “By Me, in My unmanifested form, this entire universe is pervaded. All beings are in Me, but I am not in them. And yet everything that is created does not rest in Me. Behold My mystic opulence! Although I am the maintainer of all living entities and although I am everywhere, I am not a part of this cosmic manifestation, for My Self is the very source of creation.” — Bhagavad-Gîtâ “I am smaller than the atom. So also I am greater than the Universal Self.” — Kaivalya Upanishad “He is Atman within the heart, smaller than a grain of rice, smaller than a grain of barley, smaller than a mustard seed, smaller than a grain of millet; He is Atman within the heart, greater than the earth, greater than the mid-region, greater than heaven, greater than all these worlds.” — Chândogya Upanishad “The kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field: Which indeed is the least of all seeds: but when it is grown, it is the greatest among herbs, and becometh a tree, so that the birds of the air come and lodge in the branches thereof.” — Book of Matthew “Allah, in the same way as he is ‘the First one and the Last one’ (El-Awwal wa El-Akher), is also ‘the Outside and the Inside’ (El-Zâher wa El-Bâten), because nothing that exists can be outside of Him, and in Him only is contained all reality, because He is Himself the absolute Reality, the total Truth: Hoa El-Haqq.” — René Guénon “In its depths I saw internalized, bound with love in one volume, what through the universe becomes unsewn quires: substances and accidents and their modes as it were conflated together, in such away that what I describe is a simple light… In that Light one becomes such that it is impossible ever to consent to turn away from it toward any other sight, because goodness, the object of the will, is all gathered there, and what is perfect there falls short elsewhere… In the profound and clear Subsistence of the deep Light I saw three circles, of three colors and of one circumference, and one seemed refected from the other like a rainbow from a rainbow, and the third seemed fire breathing equally from both.” — Dante, Paradiso, Canto 33 “Thus God is the center of all, because He is so in all things that He is more internal to each thing than it is to itself. He is also the world’s circumference because, in existing outside all things, He so transcends all things that His dignity immeasurably excels the highest summit of each thing. Again, He is greatest of all in power to the extent He is least of all in quantity, if this is permissable way of putting it. As He is the center, He is in all, but as the circumference, He is outside all; in all, but not included because He is also the circumference; outside all too but not excluded because He is also the center. So what is God? One might call Him a spiritual circle whose center is everywhere, whose circumference is nowhere.” — Marsilio Ficino, Platonic Theology, XVII, 3 “Now, my friends, you may depart, and may that intellectual sphere whose centre is everywhere and circumference nowhere, whom we call GOD, keep you in his almighty protection.” — Gargantua and Pantagruel, Francois Rabelais “Our soul delighteth to disport itself and is well pleased in that frolic to take a review of its native country, which is the heavens, where it receiveth a most notable participation of its first beginning with an imbuement from its divine source, and in contemplation of that infinite and intellectual sphere, whereof the centre is everywhere, and the circumference in no place of the universal world, to wit, God.” — Gargantua and Pantagruel, by Francois Rabelais “But it is true without fail that she whose womb swelled understood more than Plato, for she knew from the time that she bore Him and rejoiced in doing so, that He was the wondrous sphere that can have no end, that shoots its center through every place and whose circumference has no fixed place. She knew that He was the wondrous triangle whose unity creates three angles, but whose three angles make only one whole. He is the triangular circle, the circular triangle who harbored in the virgin. Plato did not know as much as that; he did not see that the triple unity in this simple trinity, the sovereign deity clothed in a human skin, is God who is called Creator.” — The Romance of the Rose, Guillaume de Lorris and Jean de Meun, 1230-1275 “You are a wheel whose substance alone exists, the diameter of the circle without circumference creating a plane by its rotation around its median point. The substance of your diameter is a Point.” — Alfred Jarry, 1869 “God is the tangential point between zero and infinity.” –- Alfred Jarry, 1898. “There’s a crack in everything. That’s how the light gets in.” — Leonard Cohen. (It helps to know he was familiar with Lurianic Kabbalah.) “I had a feeling once about Mathematics, that I saw it all—Depth beyond depth was revealed to me—the Byss and the Abyss. I saw, as one might see the transit of Venus—or even the Lord Mayor’s Show, a quantity passing through infinity and changing its sign from plus to minus. I saw exactly how it happened and why the tergiversation was inevitable: and how the one step involved all the others. It was like politics. But it was after dinner and I let it go!” — Winston Churchill, My Early Life, 1930 “Nothing more exists, nothing more matters, for whom saw the darkness in the gap between the things.” — Jorge de Sena “That which permeates all, which nothing transcends and which, like the universal space around us, fills everything completely from within and without, that Supreme non-dual Brahman — that thou art.” — Sankaracharya “That in whom reside all beings and who resides in all beings, who is the giver of grace to all, the Supreme Soul of the universe, the limitless being — I am that.” — Amritbindu Upanishad https://www.clearhat.org/2018/02/20/god-is-an-infinite-sphere-the-center-of-which-is-everywhere-the-circumference-nowhere/

I liked the scan of the audience faces at the end; they all be like " WTF was that ! " ... even the baby !

Heavy showers all day , wheelbarrow full

Yeah, right . " Dont worry about me ladies, my poor old eye sight only sees a blur ."

Ah! I see , its not Orion's fault then ..... they just happened to be in 'his line of sight ' - then he decided to chase them ...... and they fled ;