Nungali

Very good ! Now do Nungali In Hebrew that is ! ( not in non Pamam Nyungan ) .

It was a form of modern ' voudon ' . Before the ceremony one is required to gain some familiarity with the system and the group of 'loas', which are seen as a type of 'spirit' * , and you are to select one you think you have an affinity with or want to know about . each has a symbol or veve and special 'likes' ( rum , a certain flower , chili , pearls , etc ) which you offer . The Priestess and Priest start by drawing a line and each end is their veve and offering ( here the male is usually 'Baron Semedi ' or 'Gede ' , you might be familiar with him ; His wife is Maman Bridgette Then lines are drawn out from the center and each draws their veve at the end of the line, making the circle . There is drumming and chanting and dancing , people are coming into the central altar and placing their offerings there . After a while things get .... well, 'different ' and the drummers have to sense this and change the rhythm and people start dancing 'backwards ' ('widdershins ') and some enter into 'communion' with their spirit or experience other changes in consciousness . It can get pretty wild . Then it comes back to 'normal' , a feast for grounding and (in this ritual I did ) by then it was near dawn . And someone had the bright idea to go to the local nearby graveyard ...... OH-O ! I thought . But everyone was very respectful , they had wanted to go there to do some gardening , clean up old grave sites and leave flowers on graves that seemed to have not had any care or attention for a while . After that we went down the beach as someone had made a little boat and we put some of the food and flowers in that and a little fire and floated it put into the sea into the rising sun as an offering to our ancestors . * Loas can be 'spirits ' , forces of nature , ancient forest , even 'Ezulie Freda' who was a white lady that had helped the slaves , after she died she was elevated to 'loa ' her form is a 'nice old lady in white dress . gloves and pearl necklace' , she is attributed to love , beauty and prosperity . - The one I chose was 'Simbi la Flambeau ' snake of fire . He is related to all great 'Damballa's ' (including Wallenganda - female form and Ungud - male form ; see below ) but primarily I chose to be a drummer , cause thats what I do There was only one other drummer but it went off well . At the end he said I played interesting and unusual rhythms and asked where they came from and how I got them . I said I didnt know ... because I didnt but each loa has a rhythm, I'm sure ** ** . Eg 'Papa Legba ' loa is an old man with bad leg , he has a walking stick and when he walks first he has to put the stick down ( 'tap' ) then its shuffle , two steps - ( 'dum-dum ' ) , then put the stick down for balance - 'tap' .... two more steps, then stick and so on , so the base rhythm is ; ] tap dum-dum ..... tap dum-dum ; Not at all. I was at first amazed and then concerned as I could see her face and hair down there among the green long flowing water weeds as the tide was running out ... 'There is a lady down there ! She will drown ! ' But then I thought it must be a reflection in the water , so I looked up .... Sort of ,.... it was a song /stream of light and it got me right in the third eye . But by now she looked like Madonna de Guadalupe , sort of like in a 'shell' or like the sky was ripped open and she was in the middle, then she sort of burst into light like a small sun or star and she was difficult to see cause of the glare ... then that ray came out and 'got me' - here is the lady of Guadalupe ( with the shepherd having the vision ) Hey ! She is supposed to be black ! or at least brown . ( MIne wasn't - she was a 'Ginge' .) Later I realized she is also 'Stella Maris ' Our Lady Star of the Sea ' patron of sailors and those risking shipwreck or lost at sea . It was only in adult life I realized I went to 'Our Lady Star of the Sea ' primary school and also what it all meant ( I have very strong but well aspected Lunar and Neptune in my chart ) . The sea is a symbol of the unconscious, its surface the conscious and travelers on the sea and explorers into it, by analogy, are ontologists ( minus the modern AI meaning ! ) . She still is . It gets worse ... Hubbard stole some OTO rituals and documents and warped them to make 'Scientology programs ' that they sold for many thousands of dollars .. yes, let's not go deeper here with this one . No ... only two sets of panties appear to do that here ....

The name Lois is primarily of Greek origin and means "more desirable", "better", or "superior". It appears in the New Testament of the Bible as the name of Timothy's grandmother, who was known for her strong faith. While also used in English-speaking countries, the name's popularity was significantly boosted by the comic book character Lois Lane. Key aspects of the name Lois: Origin: Greek, from the word "loistos" or "loion". Meaning: "More desirable," "better," or "superior". Biblical connection: Lois was the grandmother of Timothy, noted in the New Testament (2 Timothy 1:5) for her strong and sincere faith, which was passed down to her daughter and grandson. Cultural significance: The name gained significant pop culture prominence through Lois Lane, the enduring love interest of Superman in the comics, which contributed to its popularity, especially in the 1930s.

Lairg and Lois ... in converse !

So you better stick to plastic ones then ..... the best skill is seen on and after 2:30

MMmmmmmm yeah ... looks good in the air You know Magellan ? H e went all over the place killing and subduing the natives ... until he got to Philippines ... they carved them up !

he felt guilty ... and he probably should not have killed Glen and buried him in the back yard .... but now all shall be restored ... just gotta ......

Now you know they DID practice magic The dorje is like a wand , the bell the cup, the phurba the magical dagger and the mandala the disc . I used to sell Tibetan magical implements as I knew people that imported them . I was just finishing that when I started on Daobums . I have posts here (if they still exist ) that had some pics in them . Do you know what a 'demon queller set ' is ... or how it is used ? ... or why the very long handles on everything ? ( a cheap unfancy modern set and the 'tongs' are missing - I can no longer find the good ones ; old , traditional, large size with brass, gold and copper inserts ! - on line ) And anyone that understands both systems ( eastern and western ' demonic evocation ' will see the similarity . By the way , what you said about Buddhism also applies to the western system ; '' Everything they do is to benefit all sentient beings. They are doing no harm or working with "negative energy". '' ..... if one knows what they are doing . --------------- < snicker > Now yer talkin' !

... make that one days rowing to Madagascar .

... hang on ... there appears to be something floating around in the ocean way out here ....

I estimate in 2 - 4 days time I will be half way to Madagascar .

... I'm outa here ! Suddenly the open ocean seems a lot better .

'' Good Morning Sir ! Could you please tell me what Island this is and what nation it is part of ? '' '' This is Cocos .. 'Keerling' Islands ... its part of Australia .'' '' Nah , I would have heard of it , I am from Australia ... are you sure ? That means I just rowed up the side of Australia and I am not even near crossing the Indian Ocean ! '' '' Oh no .... Cocos Island is 2.800 km out in the Indian Ocean ... but 1,270 km from Jakarta . .'' '' Whaaaat ? What has Australia got to do with it then ? '' '' You dont want to know ! Actually this is the workers island where good Muslim Malay people were bought to work and kept on this island . The other island, thats where all the rich Australians and tourists go .. thats where we work . You know all this used to be owned by one Australian family ... sort of our king . Self appointed of course , thats changed now . Still , here we are on this island and poor ... while over there .... '' '' Wow ! They sure covered this one up ! Anyway, best be on my way .... can I take a few coconuts .'' '' Yes, thats fine ... if you go that way ... look out for the drunken jet ski riders ! ''

I see land ahead ! What is that doing out here in the middle of the Indian Ocean ! ? ...... WOW!

True ... also it would work a lot better if I was facing the direction I want to go !

Nubbins! That isn't an insult , its what people grow in the future , not gills . They end up like some sort of penguin living in the Galapagos Islands .... the other transformation was that our unique swollen organ finally returned to the right proportions that every other animals has ... ie. the human brain . Once it shrank to normal size ... all our troubles disappeared ! ... well, according to Kurt Vonnegut, that is what will happen ; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galápagos_(novel)#Plot_summary

What ??? Quantum entanglement is nothing like that ! Do you even understand what you write or do you just use modern cliches and make a wiki link without even reading it ? or perhaps it was a multiverse ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse

Like ; ''Nobody knows how it works .'' well ... that would be a 'nobody '.

'our' Lois doesnt work like that You will get used to him

It sounds like he has set up his own little 'kingdom' there . With the 'new consciousness' nowadays, I suppose it can be whatever one claims it is . This old dude does not think you sound like that . Actually you sound sensible and balanced ... my God that is rare nowadays ! But not to disappoint you .... you can wipe that smile off your face right now ! Nah . Not socially, at least . And even if he did , those post-Victorian 'morals' ... Yikes ! ( 'morals' with racism and sexism ! ) Those moral times were overboard compared to today though . Even in my family ! I didnt find out until I was about 40 that my dear loving parents had threatened to kick my big sister out the house - no job , young and pregnant ... the shame the shame .... if she didnt marry the idiot responsible . I thinks Crowley went deliberately overboard in his mocking of morals which at times seemed justified * , at times seemed weird and selfishly indulgent . and at other times just for the reaction . On a more serious and technical matter I think he made a 'big miss' in that , at these times, psychiatry was just coming onto fashion and unfortunately Freud was the reference ( this was pre Jung ) and Crowley mistook sublimated drives as indications of expression of True Will, which they clearly are not . It was not until Israel Regardie studied and learnt those systems , and psychiatry and psychology ( and Jung ) and got qualified in them that more 'wholesome' work appeared . * Rodin and made a sculpture of Oscar Wilde ... but to everyone's shock it was a nude and about to be unveiled publicly. The authorities commissioned another sculptor to attack a fig leaf over the offending bit. some artists complained, so it was a bit of kerfuufle . On unveiling the statute it appeared someone had removed the fig leaf . Outrageous , but the supporting artists laughed . No one fessed up though . That night at the gentleman's club in town Crowley turned up, dressed up very formally , top hat and tails and all that ... and a stone fig leaf attached to the fly of his trousers . That, I can appreciate . Certainly ! ... as should be the case in any system . But people get attracted to 'like likes like' ... the adept should have 'the feet below the hells and the head above the heavens ' or to quote someone else ' the goodly spiritual will seek that expression of ego but those that have a dastardly fascination will be attracted to more dastardliness ' ( I made that last part up ) I can outline the one I did if you want to know . No it isnt , if anything , within that terminology it would be like the old 'spiritualism' or 'spirit-ism' ... mediums and such . . The word necromancy itself signifies a corpse being involved and relates to prophesy ... again , terminology . Thats sounds like me .... minus a few years . he was still experimenting with rocket fuels . Its like a trigger substance , some fuels are great once they get going but hard to get going . Think of firewood , a good coaling long burning wood is good but hard to light . Something like ( for here ) wattle is great as a starter but burns hot and quick and soon turns to ash . Fulminate of mercury, or Mercury(II) fulminate (Hg(CNO)₂), is a highly sensitive primary explosive used as a trigger in percussion caps and detonators. It was discovered by Edward Charles Howard in 1800, with its use in firearms pioneered by Alexander John Forsyth. Because it is easily set off by friction, heat, or shock, it is used to initiate the explosion of other, less sensitive explosives. We could start a thread on this . The fierce aspect is like the Egyptian Sekhmet , the lioness , but the 'nicer' aspect is Hathor , the cow (sort of ) , yet Hathor rules the noonday Sun ... and that is fierce , especially in Egypt . The forms of mother / goddess go from the highest right down to ... well, you . Everything from Nuit ( Wallenganda ) the stars and voids of space , to divine Sophia that sits on top of the Supernals , down through any manifestation you might want or like ; the great sea , the earth . Gaia , Mother nature ... even localized 'Big Mums' up in the sky looking after an area , and a smaller location ( the one over this valley here is great ! Thanks Mum ! ) , our own mothers , that mermaid that appeared to me as a child ... 'Mary' floating in the clouds that zapped my 'third eye' .... your wife or girl friend .... and one day , you might be a physical Mum yourself ( if you are not already ) Mums everywhere So much so that Crowley sacked him from being the head of USA OTO ... mostly to do with his involvement with L.Ron Hubbard . And yes he did write some trash ( I thought ) about Babalon, darkness , witchcraft etc. it also seemed unfinished and disjointed . I meant more 'dead energy' than 'meat ' . A lot of processed meat I would not want to eat , or 'who knows what donky camel mix, frozen and in storage for ??? . meaning, I see 'live good food' including meat as something like ; if I drive up the mountain to the plateau, I go past rich fertile fields with happy cows roaming around or basking under trees , or lapping up clear water in the creeks. All meat at the butcher there is local . That type of 'live ' food . What sort of training do you do ? Yeah, thats the sort of thing I meant . ... are you sure you are not an old daobum in disguise here ? If not ... you must be a natural !

One assumes such biographies were written by members of the OTO as the OTO cannot write a 'biography' itself . And I assume they must be written down for you to read them , so ... what are they ... titles ... and authors please . (or did you 'time travel in another time stream' / 'envision' / make up these 'biographies ' ? )

Crap swords .... crap people pretending to know how to handle them . Once at a 'karate demo' I was watching . Some karate dude in his white pajamas and black belt seems to think he knows wheat he is doing . he is going to cut something in front of a crowd , with a 'real live sharp Samurai sword ' ... he hoicks the sword up above his head to cut down ... and the blade flies off the handle and lands somewhere behind him .... in the audience . Another one ; guy lies with a concrete block under ankles and head and suspends himself while another (again both in white karate pajama pants ) is going to cut through a watermelon on the other's stomach .... he nearly did it, the sword didn't cut through the lower edge of the rind , so he gave it a little slice ..... guy underneath ended up getting 16 stitches across his stomach .