Nungali

I vote we ban Brian's appendix from his body .

... $20 up front first before any questions answered .

First does the term 'composition' as used by dwai mean an oral tradition or the tradition that appeared, written via the process my quote above describes . WHICH by the way is by a VERY traditional Indian scholar (in their sense of the term ) and not a 19 c western academic . Secondly, I am assuming that you know as well as I do about the wealth and extent of genetic and linguistic information to support an ... let's call it ... 'an ingress' of 'Aryan' peoples into Nth India . I can easily post it here . But since you asked dwai about it, I will await his answer .

Yesterday the fire got a little closer... then more smoke . My neighbours who evacuated into town rang me just before sunset ; "What going on, why are you still out there, from town we ca see a huge mushroom cloud of smoke towering into the air and burnt leaves are falling . " So I drove up a hill to get a better view, it was hard to see what was cloud, what was smoke what was sunset and what was fire. Then burnt leaves and little lumps of charcoal started to fall. Cars kept going past my place out of the valley. some packed up. Since it was near dark and I would not even be able to tell if embers where falling or not, I left . Sometimes the fire maps do not get updated for a whole half day . This one was last updated 11 hrs ago ! No updates today so far, its all from last night and spot fires have spread alarmingly close , about 10km to the SW. There was a fire meeting yesterday and fire services said they have thrown all they have at it but it isnt stopping (yet is listed as 'being controlled' ??? ) . They fear it will cross to the south side of the valley and continue east, thats the bad side. It looks like it did that last night . So now fires to the NW and SW IN the valley. They say it may impact the south side of the local town, where it abuts forest. The small local hospital will have to be evacuated . I came back this morning and its covered in burnt leaves , I did a hose down, grabbed some stuff I forgot ( a pillow and blankets fer Gawds sake - I forgot them ! ) I still cant tell how close or where the fires are, so I am going back to town soon - I and some of my stuff are staying on the north side, across the river , supposedly a safer spot , and near the show ground, the main safety point . Just as well the wind is down to 10kph and the temps cool . Fire sevices said they where worried that the fire might hit the town southern edges, nearby inhabited valleys and then continue east all the way to the coast, they said this happened in the 60s . Now hardly any cars are leaving, maybe they all gone .... the smoke is a different colour now and its eerily quiet - before the 'storm' ? I'm outa here .

Written complied texts or oral tradition? Opinion of a friend I converse with in India ( the 'Arctic origins of the Vedas guy ) - he is very elderly , a Brahman, and some caste that is in charge of ritual and ceremonies . " Most of RigVeda was written after Aryans reached India, i.e., Book 1 and 10, which constitute about 25% of it. The older books, Book 2 - 7, constitute 38% of RigVeda. Then, the books are not in any chronological order. One will find a hymn composed in an earlier era in between the hymns composed in a later era, and vice-versa. Even the older hymns are not the original hymns. They were translations of the oldest hymns by later poets who were living in a locale different from the locales in which the older hymns were written. The common language kept changing from whatever was used in the Indo-European times to Early Vedic and then to Later Vedic. They had no idea about what the old hymns were referring to and transcribed what seemed to them to be the most probable. That is why there is a tradition as old as 2000 BCE of grammarians and poets trying to find the meaning of what was written in the older hymns. These people were called Niruktikaras (Nirukti means etymology). And then lastly the hymns were compiled according to the supposed families of the hymn writers. The best knowledge about locales and conditions in which RigVeda was written comes from astronomical and climatic references. One cannot be sure that if RigVeda was talking about an Ashwattha tree, whether it was the Indian Banyan or pepul tree or a fig tree in Central Asia, both belong to the same genera. If they were talking about Saraswati, which Saraswati was it. Was it the Saraswati in punjab or River Argandhab in Kandhar region of Afghanistan known to Zoroastrians as Haraxvaiti, and there are two more rivers in Turkmenistan and Kazakhistan which are known a Sari-Su (which means a Golden River). Hakara is an extension of Ghaggar, a channel which will have water when there are copious rains. It was an outflow from the Vijaynagar Anupgarh Suratgarh Hanumangarh depression where Saraswati dried up. There may have been times when Saraswati (by which I mean Ghaggar) may have joined Sutlej or Indus directly. Sutlej is a trans-Himalayan river, Yamuna rises in deep Himalayas, both are snow-fed, while Ghagghar rises in low Sivalik hills, the first range of mountains after the plains. Ghaggar has extensive flow in times of good rains and floods the area frequently. As perhas you know, researchers date the change around 1,900 BCE because of climate change as well as tectonic upheaval, both of which are quite possible. Even two days ago there was an earthquake in that area, but fortunately, it measured just 3.2 on Richter scale. It is a grade IV tectonic region. There have been much stronger quakes in recent times in Simla (Himachal pradesh) and Uttarkashi (Uttarakhand). " ........ When in the height heaven was not named, And the earth beneath did not yet bear a name, And the primeval Apsu, who begat them, And chaos, Tiamut, the mother of them both Their waters were mingled together, And no field was formed, no marsh was to be seen; When of the gods none had been called into being, And none bore a name, and no destinies were ordained; Then were created the gods in the midst of heaven. Before the Dreamtime the earth was a flat disc of sand with no features, beneath the stars. and on that earth lay Ungud - the Rainbow Serpent . Ungud would look u to the stars , to Wallenganda, the Milky Way, the big black snake . And Wallenganda asked Ungud "Why are you looking at me." and he answered "because you look so beautiful, up there with all your stars with the big black river running through the middle and all the stars around which are the campfires of your children along the river bank . But I have no children and am all alone. So wallenganda lowered her head from the sky and spat some of her water down on Ungud. Ungud took it down under the earth, diving through the surface and leaving a big sand hill behind which became Uluru . And in that water he multiplied himself and numerous rainbow serpents went out through the earth, making valleys rivers and soaks and springs. And then Unguds spread the seeds of all the different forms of life where ever they went

... Oh, I forgot my prelude link to match your one about Handcock ; Enjoy http://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/tedx-issues-warning-about-graham-hancock-calling-his-speech-outdated-and-counterfactual https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/no-there-wasnt-an-advanced-civilization-12-000-years-ago/ http://www.badarchaeology.com/lost-civilisations/graham-hancocks-lost-civilisation/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/kristinakillgrove/2015/09/03/what-archaeologists-really-think-about-ancient-aliens-lost-colonies-and-fingerprints-of-the-gods/#34ba2c77ab0c

Yes I can explain this ; overall, instead of a big wall of off topic text, its a big wall of off topic pictures . And it is the usual style ; just a whole heap of images stuck together with no reference, back ground analysis or meaning (aside from the end comment about Enoch) . Things are presented this way on the internut so those that do not have a deeper understanding will make visual associations and think " Gosh ! Look at that .... it looks like ..... " The abso classic debunk in this subject are the ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs touted a while back all over the internet and sites that showed helicopter , UFO and tank ..... people looked at it and where ' WOW! Lookit that ! " and writing all sorts of fantastical stuff about it . Because they did not understand, know or have any background in what they where looking at . Yet felt their superficial but yet outlandish explanations where valid and true . Which seems just as biased as insisting the current academic explanations must be true . Thing is, they change as more info comes to light . The radical explanations do not change as more info comes to light , the more info is ignored, and in some cases outright lied about and falsified . I have busted a few of those here over the years . And in other places . One was a HUGE block, impossible to carve, yet there it was , with tiny people next to it ... of course, not much accompanied info ever was posted with it. It was tracked down to be a small stone feature from somewhere else and the back ground and tiny people Photoshopped in. But New Age peeps dont talk about that one or put it up as 'evidence ' any more . Just sweep those ones under the carpet . Pic 1 . is also a big wall. People like walls, they have been making them for ages . 2. Is a mosaic joinery in stone to help with earthquake resistance. 3. Shows 'bosses' / protrusions so a stone can be manipulated into place by leverage and slings . Thing is if you put the rope around the block, underneath , when you put it in place m how ya gonna get the rope out ? This problem was solved by Masons with the 'masonic lewis' . The reason different cultures used it is that is how you do it, when you only have the technology they did . A bit like how some pottery jugs have handles on the side , in Mexico, Azerbaijan or Ethiopia . 4. One must assume that the H figure is supposed to show something significant . Why not use 'T' s ? There are heaps more T designs in things all over the world ! 5. Some decorative block carved out of a relatively soft rock . I realise the pop rant on this is that this stone is very hard , but , ummmmm ... they lied. 6. Yes, thats a big ornate gateway . It cracked . Probably not from a UFO laser cannon . 7. Then a series of skull pictures (or just some funny hats ) from different cultures. A type of skull binding that has been done in different cultures. One could ask THOSE people that did it why they did it . or we can make up our own reasons . Only if you dont closely examine the de-bunking or intelligent analysis that has been done on a lot of this . But whatever , if you still think lightening is caused by the Gods being angry , doesnt matter one way or the other if you get hit by it . Not that I want to spoil anyone's fun or anything

Contact with New Age Enlightened Masters .

And he thought it was a real post and acclaimed it for its wisdom

Remember when I did my 'ritual' to clean this place up ( blast it ) . That was an exercise (joke ) in staying off topic and being unfocused Thing is ... it worked ! But being unfocused and off topic or continually 'flowing' from topic to topic is a different thing from having only one topic and never getting off that topic . And to get off THIS topic .... ya know , I am glad I dont own run or manage an internet discussion forum . I mean, can you imagine what it would be like if I did ! OMG ! Just ask the people that used to be in my 'ritual magick performance ' group . Jeeze they had stuff with me ! But the two times we actually did a performance , people weher SOOOO chuffed about how well they did and how good it was . The other time, a public performance in Sydney, the last of a sting of rituals , we received a standing ovation ! Peeps said they never seen one so good . Actually, same went for the festivals we used to put on and the events in that I managed . And same for the ' Gods of Olympus ' party we put on a few years back - 'best event ever ' ... ' the best party I have ever been to ' . Trick is ; organisation, preparation, discipline ... then one can 'let go' and allow free expression and creativity WITHIN the parameters .

Feeling the cold ? Feeling like Cthulu ?

I know what this is ! Its a work / holiday clock . The left end measures the time when you are on holidays and the right end measures the time while you at your work.

External and internal gears of the Mayan calendar The 'Weather Calendar' has many more wheels .

Isnt it a rule not to quote someone via the quote box and change their words in that quote box ? He does that .

And thank you Everything ! Thank you for just then breaking a major rule that I can report you for Did you think I would not notice that you quoted me and then interfered with my quote and substituted your own words ? These are the sort of dishonest tactics that come with Mr Love everything for evermore ? Hmmmmmmm ?

" You have always known this' Reminds me of the guy that gave dodgy didgeridoo lessons . Someone I know paid him $50 to learn to play . Didge guru took him into his 'spiritual yurt ' sat down and played for a bit, handed the 'learner' the didge and said " You have always known how to play, its just a matter of remembering . " And walked out - that was the $50 lesson.

I guessed you where going to do something like that . ........ again .

The little rain we had is gone. It didnt get the fire. The fire is still spreading my way along the north side escarpment of the valley spotting east . Neighbours just rang and asked me where I was going tonight ??? According to them its an evacuation. Asking the source it was some mothers at the local school . Might be right, I will take my advice from the fire service and myself thanks. I would be more nervous if I had kids tough. Its about 15 km away now and hopped a few ridges in the last day . Its still coded blue , yellow means leave now . Its listed as 'being controlled' yet is spreading towards inhabited areas. ? Tomorrow is hotter and winds are in the least favourable direction . I have stuff in a car in town, I might move my motorcycle there tomorrow. And pack the other car for a quick getaway before I go to sleep , just in case . Other spots are red and places have flared up again or new ones started . The news is all a buzz as some are 'near' Sydney. So I suppose efforts will be focused there and everywhere else . Unfortunately some more fire fighters have been injured

WAIT! How come no one, so far, has done mix and match ; dark hair, blonde man bun, or reverse ? My God ! have I thought up something that does not already exist on the internet ?

? I thought I was the only one here sitting around writing posts in my under pants .

śhrī-bhagavān uvācha kālo ’smi loka-kṣhaya-kṛit pravṛiddho lokān samāhartum iha pravṛittaḥ ṛite ’pi tvāṁ na bhaviṣhyanti sarve ye ’vasthitāḥ pratyanīkeṣhu yodhāḥ Aside from this , yes , I have drunk the Sun from the chalice of life .

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If only you would let go of 'it' . There is another meaning of 'it' for you .

It is a huge intergalactic space turtle . Of course . What else could it be ? Now , off you go and follow it .