Nungali

Well , I am 'dog person' surrounded by two cats in this thread . I have known you are cat for a loooooooooooooong time now . Its just that I went to behavioural dog school since then

Cat is saying ; 'Hey what about dinner ? Its way past dinner time ! But it isnt too late, you make my dinner RIGHT now, and I will forgive you and allow you to love me as 'your' cat . " Ceptin, what Welkin is hearing is 'slightly coloured' by his everyday 'consciousness' .

Its that cat again .

Hmmmm ... now I am even more 'terrified' ! Years back, when I was a cute, nice young Daobum, I saw a curious post (well, actually it was a post trying to attack or dis me or sumfin ? ) with the letters OAD , and I, in my innocence asked what it was . Ever since my DB's personality has downgraded faster than a portrait of Dorian Grey ! But why terrified ? Now I am thinking PM must mean something else that VYY has 'got up his sleeve ' . I guess I will just have to lie down and wait for it ?

Ahh! See if you had studied geology , you would have known that from 'coprolites' . Also available in the 'crystal section' of new Age stores for $65 a pair ( to help you to tune into your personalised quantum expression of the whole) .

I am doing reno today ..... I am up to up to painting the little mouldings between the window frames and the glass ' Bengal Red' on my restored antique windows . Takes 2 hrs to dry between coats ..... so he picked bad day to try and post bomb the site with fascist propaganda under the thin disguise of Thelema . Also, I know the material well, in memory, and where to access references . (As VYY once complained about me ; "Its not fair ! He has got some super computer that can find stuff and put it up here in seconds ! " )

Kitler is the name of Mskied's cat .... Mskied had obviously been channelling messages from his cat .

Thing is , Hitler and his machine knew full well the principles of magical technology ; ritual, invocations and speech, gestures, 'temple furniture ./ architecture, banners, art, symbols and use of colour , robes (uniforms ) .... to 'effect changes in consciousness' . Some mistake this, and combined with the stories and their misunderstandings about the Book of the Law come up with some twisted stuff . People like Hitler and L. Ron Hubbard * take the magical technology and rituals of groups that have used them to effect change in consciousness for individual development and empowerment and to help them find and live their True Wills and they twist and use them to effect change in consciousness in others according to their own evil will - to control and manipulate others , propaganda. * there is a reasonable case to see that L Ron Hubbard did this physically, ripping off some OTO rituals and materials (from his time with Parsons - I think Hubbard might have done the Minerval ritual ? ) . There are some correlations , although Hubbard used the basic essence, twisted it, simplified it and charged thousands of dollars for it . Eg . The Sunshine Programme of Scientology , the most simplest distillation of the basic Solar ritual , is available only after a higher level - that costs heaps , and as a bonus you can pay extra and get this 'programme' - a short paragraph . Whereas in a more magical, effective and fuller version of the Thelemic rite would be 'Liber Resh' ... a ziillion times better and more effective and available for free , still today . ( Some years back the naughty magical anarchists of the OTO group in Sydney printed out Liber Resh and the Sunshine Programme and where handing them out for free out the front of Scientology HG in Sydney . That caused a furore .... now, apparently Scientology lists the Sunshine Programme as 'complimentary' , that is, free . ]

Yep. Dont expect 'numb nut' to know about that though . Mskied : " Me a history experts . "

I rarely pray, but in this instance : ' Oh Lord Sean, deliver us from deliverance ...... and Mskied ! "

Idiot ! Hitler suppressed, arrested, and imprisoned Kabbalists, hermetics, Thelemites , etc Never heard of Karl Germer , I suppose . He was Head of the German OTO . " Germer's US visa expired and he had to return to Germany in 1935. When Adolf Hitler came to power, Germer came under suspicion because of his association with Crowley and teaching Thelema in Germany. Hitler was given a copy of Liber AL, the Holy Book of Thelema, by Martha Kuntzel who enjoyed a high reputation in Germany amongst aristocrats. Kunzel had been working for some years on translations of Crowley's works into German. She had also presented Liber AL to Hitler as she thought highly of him before he came to power. Liber AL was known well enough in higher German circles after Kunzel translated and introduced it to German public and soon after the start of World War II, Hitler banned it in Germany, as well as the books on religion, qabala, astrology, esoteric studies and gematria.[7] Hitler knew enough about Thelema to ban Liber AL in Germany and thus Germer became his enemy when his religious beliefs became known. On Hitler’s orders Germer was arrested by the Gestapo on 13 February 1935 in Leipzig and incarcerated.[8] He was first held at the Columbia-Haus prison in Berlin / " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Germer

I'll defend anyone's right to kill someone like Hitler . If I am defending Crowley it is becasue I hold the poor chap totally innocent of the monstrous interpretations you have foisted upon him posthumously .

What ? 6 million of them ? ! You are just trolling now aren't you ?

What ? The Third Reich was established ?? ! I missed it ? ? ? ? Cant you take your sicko ideas elsewhere ? Maybe here ; http://www.catsthatlooklikehitler.com/cgi-bin/seigmiaow.pl

and I never said there was " "proper initiation into that book" " You are making up quotes and attributing them to me I clearly said ; " ...proper initiation into the system that uses that book "other to put quotation marks around what you are citing me to say, at least get it right . There IS a quote button, you know ? So, not only have you been insisting the 'Law' is 'do what you want ', now you have degraded it further to ' "Do what you can get away with ' .

Yesterday when a female friend turned up at the open door unannounced and heard me singing 'Glory Box' , with gusto , along with Beth Gibbons " ..... I just wanne be a woman ! "

Felidae in Russia . Interesting ! They seem to have a long relationship with a type of domestication with them. https://englishrussia.com/2012/07/08/lynx-as-a-pet/ https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5521939/Russian-couple-pet-puma.html Even the cats adopt them

It isnt the manufacturing of apologists . Its the distinction between some passages being advice and others being prediction. get it wrong (or 'make a great miss' ) and you might end up like Hitler ! Thats why proper initiation into the system that uses that book is a prerequisite. Would you use a Hindu initiation system to try and comprehend Buddhism ? If I predicted a coming age where the environment is destroyed , would you then go out and destroy the environment ? If I wrote a chapter preceding that on environmental management and repair would you consider that advice on what to do ? .

But that is only because you and others short circuited it It is not " The Law IS do what thou wilt " it is 'Do what thou wilt SHALL BE the whole of the Law. I already explained this . After you have trained and developed sufficiently the Law will apply. Of course, cowans (the uninitiated, untrained, the unaware etc ) are going to think this ; this means I can now do whatever I WANT .... nope ! They didnt coin it and you have a actually misinterpreted it as well - the original came from Hassan i Sabbah - The hashishim master (any reader of RA Wilson knows that ! ) Now you have mixed up misquoted Thelema with misquoted Chaos Magick and drawing operational conclusions from it . No wonder you get yourself in a mess ! I rarely pray, but in this instance : ' Oh Lord , deliver us from deliverance ...... and Mskied ! "

I, unlike you, will meet any challenge about what I write . Just one small example, with one people in one area ; The Australian Aboriginals . briefly, they managed a whole continent so their lifestyle and supporting environment remained intact for over 40,000 years amidst MASSIVE climate change , drought, floods, rising sea levels, animal extinctions, glaciations, desertification etc . Creating a land of sustainable beauty and naturalness that was soon ruined , in some cases, within one generation of European arrival. It is only now we are feeling the effects of a lack of management and a 200+ year result of mismanagement - including managing fire, resulting in the mess happening here right now . Aryan IS part of Indo Europen .... genius ! .... or Mr there are races or even ; 'Mr Racist '

Examples ? I challenge YOU ! Come on ... cough up !

"led the charge" might be right . INDO-EUROPEAN INVASIONS https://www.europaindigena.com/2ª-el-neolítico/iv-the-origins-of-war-and-patriarchy/indo-european-invasions/ Dot tell me this guy is going to try and argue anthropology with me now !

Typical . You admit you have no knowledge on the subject and not even an inclination to look into it and then admit you nothing about the dynamics of white . But that isnt gonna stop this guy from telling us what he thinks and then get uppity when corrected ! Colour theory and usage is an important aspect of ritual magick, (see Liber 777) and that is the basis behind a large part of ritual / regalia/ temple furniture design and construction. It should also be used in any good magical tarot deck, It seems that a LOT of things are presented here by you from your 'simple observation' without going into any depth on them at all . First, white is the absence of colour ... then its the purest form of colour ? I see ...... the purest form of colour is colourless ? White is NOT a primary colour . The ' colour ' of magical Schools is not the same as colour in art or colour theory . Of course, I dont expect you to have realised this as you dont like to take in information other than from your " simple perspective " . " It is customary to describe these three Schools as Yellow, Black, and White. The first thing necessary is to warn the reader that they must by no means be confounded with racial distinctions of colour; and they correspond still less with conventional symbols such as yellow caps, yellow robes, black magick, white witchcraft, and the like. The danger is only the greater that these analogies are often as alluring as the prove on examination to be misleading. " These Schools represent three perfectly distinct and contrary theories of the Universe, and, therefore, practices of spiritual science. The magical formula of each is as precise as a theorem of trigonometry. Each assumes as fundamental a certain law of Nature, and the subject is complicated by the fact that each School, in a certain sense, admits the formulæ of the other two. It merely regards them as in some way incomplete, secondary, or illusory. Now, as will be seen later, the Yellow School stand aloof from the other two by the nature of its postulates. But the Black School and the White are always more or less in active conflict. " The Yellow School of Magick considers, with complete scientific and philosophical detachment, the fact of the Universe as a fact. Being itself apart of that Universe, it realizes its impotence to alter the totality in the smallest degree. " The Yellow School, in accordance with its doctrine of perfectly elastic reaction and non-interference, holds itself, generally speaking, entirely apart from all such questions. We can hardly imagine it sufficiently interested in any events soever to react aggressively. It feels strong enough to deal satisfactorily with anything that may turn up: and generally speaking, it feels that any conceivable action on its part would be likely to increase rather than to diminish the mischief. " In accordance, therefore, with their general plan of non-action, as expressed in the Tao Teh King, of dealing with mischief before it has become too strong to be dangerous, they interfere gently from time to time to redress the balance. " The Black School of Magick, which must by no means be confused with the School of Black Magick or Sorcery, which latter is a perversion of the White tradition, is distinguished fundamentally from the Yellow School in that it considers the Universe not as neutral, but as definitely a curse. Its primary theorem is the “First Noble Truth” of the Buddha—“Everything is Sorrow.” In the primitive classics of this School the idea of sorrow is confused with that of sin " We have, however, examples plentiful enough of religions deriving almost exclusively from the Black tradition in the different stages. We have already mentioned the Evangelical cults with their ferocious devil-god who creates mankind for the pleasure of damning it " The central idea of the White School is that, admitted that “everything is sorrow” for the profane, the Initiate has the means of transforming it to “Everything is joy.” ... Existence is pure joy. Sorrow is caused by failure to perceive this fact; but this is not a misfortune. We have invented sorrow, which does not matter so much after all, in order to have the exuberant satisfaction of getting rid of it. Existence is thus a sacrament. [ There are also other schools ; a 'Red School', - the 'Royal Road', a 'Golden School' but therse are often 'internal' and little known ] " Our own School unites the ruby red of Blood with the gold of the Sun. It combines the best characteristics of the Yellow and the White Schools. In the light of M. Aumont's exposition, it is easy to understand. " To us, every phenomenon is an Act of Love, every experience is necessary, is a Sacrament, is a means of Growth. Hence, ”…existence is pure joy;…“ (AL II, 9) “A feast every day in your hearts in the joy of my rapture! A feast every night unto Nu, and the pleasure of uttermost delight!” (AL II, 42-43). Let this soak in! Extraxts from M. Gerard Aumont' s essay in ' Magic without Tears ' Ch 6, 7 & 8 https://hermetic.com/crowley/magick-without-tears/mwt_06 Mocking the fake group constructed by New Age phonies and modelled on more older teachings that most 'moderns' would not have a clue about their origins . Humans are all one race ; the Human Race . Human races are a fallacy, incorrect and unscientific . You seem confused with 'ethnic types', which have been intermixed with each , in various degrees, over 10s or 1000s of years and probably longer . https://www.newsweek.com/there-no-such-thing-race-283123 https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2018/04/race-genetics-science-africa/ or if you cant manage to read a simple paper ;

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