Nungali

Michael's diagram shows the classical planetary house rulers , so its right in that regard . Then it attributes the to chakras I dont see any Vs in there ? Where are you seeing one thing versus or in polarity to another in that diagram . if anything we could say a sign attributed to a planet VS the other sign attributed to the same planet . I am not sure I a following you here ? I dont understand the Vs thing . I see it as ; Instead: mercurial modulates the Venus Mars polarity . uranisian neptunian polarity jupiterian saturnian polarity marsian venusian polarity sunnish moonish polarity .

Thanks . I see it more like that than any relationship (even shape wise ) to the glyph of mercury

No, its not that . I am looking at the vertical order of shapes in the symbol compared to the vertical oder of shapes in the picture of the Djed , etc .

I like this ^ . Take you point about green . There are only 3 colors , the primaries . 'Certain people' will argue with you, insist, show evidence, cross reference and 'proof' . There is no green ! . But primaries are 'ideal' , 'above the abyss' ,' they are the 'ideas' we have about things . But in the natural world, there are FOUR 'natural colors' as they call them ; red , blue, yellow and green .

Coby, you should see the tree that has blossomed all over it in my garden ( actually two types of puffball flowers next to each other : masses of them all over the tree - 'powder puff ' lilli-pilli tree . They have little fruits, a large source of food , pre-colonialism . Very much like a rose apple ( the top pic has a 'spicy' taste to them ) , which is a tree a have nearby which is also flowering ATM

So do I .... as what i was referring to is not what Daniel twisted it into .

Okay, you censored it from your quote because there was a page break However that made no difference to your above quote from the same textual source . Its all on the same page (as above ) as the source ! .

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Ohhhh ... all of a sudden you have shifted from it being an artificial pointing finger to protect the Torah to a 'whatever it is ' Ummm ... the description of the Abramelin ritual in the book come after he met the Egyptian Abramelin and he instructed him in the ritual, which is the bit quoted before about the magical tools used ..... which you said was a pointer , a trying cord and a mere robe , ecet you 'forgot ' to explain why a croen is needed . Do Jews need a crown on their head to read Torah . Go on tell me which one is 'the crown ' ; Its this one isnt it Of course I dont and I have no idea why you would assume that . Its probably more of a projection from yourself other than what I think . What ! ? Take a powder Daniel ! " I learned that at Mayence there was a Rabbi who was a notable Sage, and the report went that he possessed in full the Divine Wisdom. The great desire which I had to study induced me to go to seek him in order to learn from him. But this man also had not received from the Lord the GIFT, and a perfect grace; because, although he forced himself to manifest unto me certain deep Mysteries of the Holy Qabalah, he by no means arrived at the goal; and in his Magic he did not in any way make use of the Wisdom of the Lord, but instead availed himself of certain arts and superstitions of infidel and idolatrous nations, in part derived from the Egyptians,..." Mayence ; the French name for Mainz a port in W Germany, capital of the Rhineland-Palatinate, at the confluence of the Main. Lookit up ! The diabolical one was a German Jew . Nungali Go back and read the bit about the ritual I already posted . Its from BOOK TWO , after many chapters it starts to describe the ritual .... what you are citing (with omissions ) is from book one . You are either confused or trying to confuse .... or trying to bluff your way through a subject you know nothing about and making mistakes as you are doing quick searches to try and get 'up to speed' just to criticise things that dont fit in with your religious viewpoint .

So ? What about it ? I will tell you what about it ..... why did you censor the first sentence hmmmmmmmmmmmm ? I learned that at Mayence there was a Rabbi who was a notable Sage, and the report went that he possessed in full the Divine Wisdom. The great desire which I had to study induced me to go to seek him in order to learn from him. But this man also had not received from the Lord the GIFT, and a perfect grace; because, although he forced himself to manifest unto me certain deep Mysteries of the Holy Qabalah, he by no means arrived at the goal; and in his Magic he did not in any way make use of the Wisdom of the Lord, but instead availed himself of certain arts and superstitions of infidel and idolatrous nations, in part derived from the Egyptians, 1 together with images of the Medes and of the Persians, with herbs of the Arabians, together with the power of the Stars and Constellations; and, finally, he had drawn from every people and nation, and even from the Christians, some diabolical Art. And in everything the Spirits blinded him to such an extent, even while obeying him in some ridiculous and inconsequent matter, that he actually believed that his blindness and error were the Veritable Magic, and be therefore pushed no further his research into the True and Sacred Magic. I also learned his extravagant experiments, and for ten years did I remain buried in so great an error, The infamous diabolical and infidel one was a Rabbi Then he found the good one , an Egyptian until that after the ten years I arrived in Egypt at the house of an Ancient Sage who was called ABRAMELIM, who put me into the true Path as I will declare it unto thee hereafter, and he gave me better instruction and doctrine than all the others;

I see , you want ME to prove MYSELF wrong . Popper is a poop . Consider , the book "Fashionable Nonsense ' where physicists Sokal and Bricmont criticised falsifiability. There is not just ONE " Holy' view on it from Popper ... of course you will now see him as the ultimate view and probably try to argue about that as well ) They discuss falsifiability because they see postmodernist epistemological relativism as a reaction to Popper's description of falsifiability, and more generally, to his theory of science. Before you get too high on your horse, you better read this : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fashionable_Nonsense Now , who else here thinks that I can not post valid evidence UNLESS Daniel can prove it wrong ?

Again , that just means you didnt' get it ' .

Old 'dance hall' wisdom Aussie style ; Older Aboriginal Auntie to young girls in her charge ; "Now, when the men come up to dance with you, say no to all of them for the first half hour . Watch them all dance for a bit, , let them get a sweat up . Now, if you see any of them with black streaks running down the back of their necks, dont accept a dance invitation off them . They aren't a young fellah , that's some old fellah pretending and the boot polish he put in his hair to cover up the grey has started to melt . "

Mercury ? Up there ^ ? Thats a djed with an ankh . Mercury < Hermes < Thoth < Tahuti < Djethuti < Ḏḥwtj < / ( Ibis - like - he who ; The God who is like an Ibis ) Partnered with Ma'at ('wife' ) . I cant see the connection with the above image which would be ; Sun - Ra, 'the' Sun or as a determinative to refer to events of time. ^ Ka hieroglyph - (praised hands ) it can mean ‘soul’ and ‘self’ depending on its use, but it can also mean ‘life creation' . ^ Ankh - Life / offering to the Gods . ^ Djed - Stability , support ( a pillar ) Apech might want to correct this though .

For example ; Do you know how to write up a scientific experiment ? One of the first headings should be AIM . Most people dont even know their aim when attempting magick, most ; " Errrmmmm , to see if it would work . " Of course there are those that want to 'put a love spell' on someone ( ) , get money , their aims are obvious . other things to consider are ; preparations , equipment , method , etc . All should be recorded . Later in review or attempts at repeat experiments (one of basic definitions of science is an experiment should be able to be repeated in the same way and get the same result ) , things might come to light Eg , if reviewing someone's work, say in biology we might notice " Hey ! There is no record of the operator here sterilizing his forceps ! No wonder 'little bugs ' started multiplying 'spontaneously' ! ) and so on . ... and on and on and on .... this is an interesting game you guys got going here ; you keep bowling all sorts of bowls at me 'full toss, 'spinner ' even a 'mulligrubber ' and old Nungers hits em for 6 ... yet no score is kept and the bowler can just ignore the sixes and keep hoiking balls down the pitch - When a ball bowled by the bowler at the batsman (pitched by the pitcher to the batter in American parlance) stays very low and barely gets off the ground, what has happened is that the bowler has bowled a mulligrubber. Mulligrubbers are very hard for batsmen to hit. Many years ago a mulligrubber caused an international incident between Australia and New Zealand, and it reverberates to this day.

Of course I can . I was just waiting for you to die . I was talking about REAL magic practice though not that old imitation based on trickery and illusion, not stage magic, and not most of the modern BS (which doesnt have a clue ) ' Naturalistic Occultism: An Introduction to Scientific Illuminism is an attempt to introduce the approach of Scientific Illuminism to occultism. It is in line with the motto of Scientific Illuminism, "The Method of Science, the Aim of Religion." Naturalistic Occultism approaches the theory and practice of occultism in a way that is scientific (using the scientific method and being up-to-date in current scientific knowledge), naturalistic (not supernatural), and pragmatic (whatever works is provisionally 'true'). This book represents an honest attempt to separate the gold of the practice of magick from the dross of superstition and dogma. " Next ! https://www.amazon.com.au/Naturalistic-Occultism-Introduction-Scientific-Illuminism/dp/1105589064

Anther one is that Angels speak ..... 'Angelic language ' . https://www.ancient-origins.net/artifacts-ancient-writings/enochian-mysterious-lost-language-angels-003100 Adgt upaah zong om faaip sald viv l sobam ialprg izazaz piadph casarma abramg ta talho paracleda q ta lorslq turbs ooge baltoh giui chis lusd orri od micalp chis bia ozongon lap noan trof cors ta ge oq manin iaidon torzu gohel zacar ca cnoqod zamran micalzo od ozazm vrelp lap zir ioiad. Although : " Linguist Donald Laycock, an Australian Skeptic, studied the Enochian journals, and argues against any extraordinary features. The untranslated texts of the Liber Loagaeth manuscript recall the patterns of glossolalia rather than true language. "

Rose coloured ?