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Oh, yes . Many got lost because they dont even consider an original intention . I was taught , when writing up any ritual or experiment in my magical diary to set it out like a science experiment ; AIM : ...... METHOD ; ...... EQUIPMENT ; ..... YES ! 'Postcards to Probationers' ; ESSENTIALS OF METHOD I. Theology is immaterial; for both Buddha and St. Ignatius were Christs. II. Morality is immaterial; for both Socrates and Mohammed were Christs. III. Super-consciousness is a natural phenomenon; its conditions are therefore to be sought rather in the acts than the words of those who attain it. The essential acts are retirement and concentration — as taught by Yoga and Ceremonial Magic https://hermetic.com/crowley/equinox/i/ii/eqi02016

Yes, but if one does what they want ... then things magically fall into place, doors open opportunity drops in your lap . OR like what my exasperated lawyer said to me about our court case ; " I cant believe this ... they trow you into a river and you stumble and trip across a path of stepping stones unseen under the surface and land collapsed on the other side, on a silk pillow with a cocktail in your hand .... again ! '

Hmmm ... I was slightly off .... my magical vision ( aka 'snooping powers' ) must need some fine tuning . I seriously thought about the first ; next winter I am considering taking passage on a cargo supply boat that supplies islands up the east coast of Cape York and through Torres Straight islands . Then get another boat over with a stop off at Raja Ampat ; " The Raja Ampat archipelago, part of the Coral Triangle, located at the northwest corner of Indonesia’s West Papua province, encompassing 40,000 km² of land and sea and including a series of more than 1,500 islands which surround the main islands of Misool, Salawati, Batanta and Waigeo. Located at the intersection of the Indian Ocean and the Pacific Ocean, Raja Ampat has been described as a ‘species factory’. Powerful deep-sea currents funnel nutrients into Raja Ampat’s delicate fringing coral reefs, blue water drop-offs, mangrove flats, and seagrass beds to form the foundation of the food chain which feeds a spectacular diversity of marine life." http://wwf.panda.org/knowledge_hub/where_we_work/coraltriangle/coraltrianglefacts/places/rajaampatindonesia/

... then read Crowley and get back to us on what you think .

^ Do what thou Wilt - Let's see what happens if FIRST we introduce this concept to someone BEFORE they get into what Crowley was on about with his idea of the 'True Will ' that is, of course, if our Integrated new friend doesnt mind us experimenting on him ? BEFORE you read about Crowley's concept of the True Will, consider that he may have picked it up from Zoroastrianism (via the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn and their interest in 'Chaldean magic' ) concept of ' Khvarenah ' ; http://www.heritageinstitute.com/zoroastrianism/overview/index.htm#khvarenah

< throws a roast beef and cheese sandwich at him >

Damn ! I am waiting for you to say "You are not MY cup of tea' .... but , no Alright you guys ... break it up ! Lack of moderator leads to self moderation . Hmmmmm ..... Very 'anarchic' and 'Thelemic '

I promised my self I will not do a commercial flight again . But thanks A cheese and roast beef sandwich from a farmers market ? Hey! Thats NOT Kosher ! ( I'll tell your mother ! )

Yes .... its a comment about projection and people's assumptions - HE knows why I wrote it . < thinks > Hmmmm .... I have never before considered how lucky I am , that some people are not white .

Nooo ... then we would have lost a valuable enlightened Daobum ! You do realise he is the only Daobum that will post a picture of a guy with a dick drawn on his face and say "This is you ' - that's gotta be invaluable ! Yes, I suppose we do need the opposite of the Shamanic path demonstrated . Oooo, I bet EVERYONE is wondering this ; Even though Xena and her little mate where obviously playing on the 'lesbian interest' and Hercules and his little friend, where obviously trying to cash in on the same ...... ya just know those two on the outside are gonna get it together anyway . I mean , it HAS to happen .... yeah ?

... yes, I did deliberately leave out such concepts and terms as ' The Higher Self '

In the Tree of Life, generally, Geburah is a process of organising force (on the way 'down' ) via compression or contraction and direction and the reverse , on the way 'up' and is a lower reflection of the process of Binah above it . But in human psychology , and using the pattern and energetic relationships of the Tree transposed on to the psyche Geburah 'changes position' . That is becasue, in the human psyche, it is not a direct reflection of the 'cosmic' process . Yes, you CAN use it that way ; This seems a little obscure .... the 'shoulder ' ? or we could get more traditional ; But it doesnt solve the problem that in the psyche of Man 'Mars has fallen' so we need to re arrange the Tree so it matches, not the physical arrangement of man but his psychological arrangement . Then such protests and ideas about Geburah ( when being perceived from the pychological level as opposed to the cosmic level) are solved . To explain better I use the planets that are attributed to the Sephiroth as these are the modes by which these forces relate and influence us . Mars clearly does not belong (again on the psychological level ) ' up there ' . It is one of the inner planets and they relate to the forces and three main psychological drives of the personality ; Mercury , Venus and Mars . Being deep psychological drive / forces they are related to the unconscious, whose 'planet' is the Moon . So I depict the Moon as the centre of that triad (much as Yesod is in its triangular relationship in The ToL) . Around the Moon are the three forces and personal planets ; Mars and venus as the obvious 'opposing' base line of the triangle ( fire and water, male and female , Yin and Yang - whatever ) and Mercury above at the apex as the regulator, balancer, redeemer , etc . Now the basic relationship and 'the work' is the unifying of the Sun and Moon So the Sun sits above this triangle and the relationship to the Moon (inside the triangle of the 3 inner planets ) is through the apex of that triangle - Mercury , who is also the 'Psychopomp', ie, is able to travel and bring communication from the underworld ( the unconscious) to the world ( consciousness) and the heavens (superconsciousness) . Reflected above this ( or the below is a reflection of above , if you prefer ... its actually both - see below) is another triangle that the Sun links to (and all the things the Sun links to below, so it is all interconnected) is the triangle of the Super personal or outer planets, these (having larger orbits and their influence changes over greater amounts of time ) regulate changes in society and culture. (I'm trying to be brief and simple here ) . Neptune is a' higher octave' than Venus, Pluto if Mars and Uranus of Mercury, so they sit above each other in 'pillars' . But between these two triangles of related force are, what is known as' the gateway planets (or some call this 'the valve' ... between the two ; the Jupiter and Saturn dynamic ; expansion and contraction. .......... Uranus.......... Pluto...............Neptune Saturn | | Jupiter .............. SUN .............. ..............Mercury......... ................MOON ......... Mars ........................Venus (essentially three 'triads' ) The 'Outcome' , to add a 'sphere' below to represent Malkuth would be the personna , which is a combination of the above forces and what they turn into or become in relation to their environment - 'the world' The higher triad, the transpersonal planets and forces hold the mores and taboos of the society, they filter down and effect behaviours in the lower triad, these are 'experimented with' and interplay in the 'world' via the personna and THAT experience creates feedback which goes 'back up the tree', over time , to effect change and direction in those mores and taboos (and many other areas ) , in a type of alchemical circulation and refinement process. Now, we can draw lines or circle around certain parts of this diagram, eg, by circling the bottom part of the lower triad we have defined the 'Id' , include more and we have the unconscious. Shift that area up to include the Sun and we have the Ego, move it up more and away from the bottom and we have the superconsciousness, include 'the world' and the influences above it and we have the 'Personna', etc . ( I do have it all in images and diagrams , but the are in an art book. I dont have facilities to transpose them to electronic form ) One could even say that moving Mars down to this position represents the 'Fall of Man' ... [ The thing is , using the 'normal attribution' (see first diagram above) doesnt offer any thing much to work with psychologically and solving many of the problems of life, psychology or interpersonal relationships , where the above does . - I've more about written about this in various here on DBs ] But with either Tree , as Integrated said ; " As I personally feel we jump around all the time through life experiences, but I have to guess that it is about holding the movement from one sefirot to another in consciousness. Which is quite different from just occupying it unconsciously because the self wanted a trip there. This challenges the notions I have about where I am in this tree consciously though. " - we are sorta all through it at the same time AND have focus on and in different parts of it at times as well. The idea being in one place or one relationship, on the Tree, I think, comes from the old hermetic concept of advancing through the spheres ; We incarnate down through the spheres (the planets - basically) and pick up their energies . Then in life our job is to go back up through the planets and refine and purify / balance their energies, in turn, arriving back at (in consciousness) the source . - also, this is a basic template for all of us but when one transposes their own natal astrological arrangements ( aspects ) on to this template it is a valuable self study tool .

Its just a hobby

2019 Royal Enfield Classic 500 R (single) Desert Storm Also available in ' Military Green ' Pros : I used to be a retro bike nut, prefer the British makes , like big singles, used to own a 500 singe before and liked it, I dont like new motorcycles, these are relatively cheap, I live 10 mins away from one of the best motor cycle runs on the east coast, there is a dealer not too far away for repairs and parts if needed. I dont need to go fast or tear around like a maniac. They are mostly old school , bu with modern touches *like electronic ignition, electric starter . Cons : I dont need one .

I liked the jab about me taming you . That would be the 13th labour wouldnt it . The Gods ; "Okay, you did 1 - 12 , smart arse , now let's see you go and tame the ....... 'Integrated One ! '

Indeed ! When I first read the play in the mud thing, I immediately thought of myself sitting around in dust and charcoal and ash and animal grease around the fire in the dark gunya of my shamanic teachers then abode, and talking or sitting silently through the night . Ahhhhh ... those where the days ! Roast beef and cheese sandwich ! ? What sort of a forum is this ? Where rich fat people sit around on their bloated white western arses, flaunting the exotic food they are about to eat! I came here for Daoism ! Not this rubbish !

What though ? .... a lamb ... your first born ? I prefer to deal with Nuit ! " I give unimaginable joys on earth: certainty, not faith, while in life, upon death; peace unutterable, rest, ecstasy; nor do I demand aught in sacrifice." - I : 38 The Book of the Law. And dont start me on Hercules ! What an exercise in failure ! Let;s just settle for rams, Hercules and 'other Goddesses ' . https://hercules-xena.fandom.com/wiki/The_Eye_of_the_Ram Lookit ! ^ They got 'sidekicks'

Dont forget to wear a helmet ! (They only cost a dollar )

or, in my situation ;

I had not read that before , and didnt really read it all now, but the first post bought up some interesting points regarding tension . In light of what you wrote , and my practices ; I started young in hard school BS MMA ( Marketing Martial Arts ) , everything I now complain about , hard arse , we are tough, school kid Japo, Amercian sport, 'kara-te' . I had the first real AUTHORISED (mind you ) JKA/Shotokan 3rd dan ( and first Gaijun to get that ) Ozzie representative ... and vary tense and external hard school 'technically perfect' Instructor . But he died young . Then I got another one in a different style, that was originally awesome ( developed from a form of tribal kick fighting ) but for various reasons wanted to go into he JKA fold - short story , similar to above but an awesome range competent of kicks as well . That instructor was the HQs (in the Philippines ) rep for Australia . But he died young . Actually BOTH from 'MS' . Now, I do something totally different, as you know, and as I have said , Mr N, would constantly stop people and " Relax ! Relax your body . ..... What's wrong ? < massage shoulders , etc > relax, relax. " I wont repeat it all again , I said it before and you say it in that post . But now I know more why 'Sanchin form' bugs me . Yes, I 'get it' and it does it on the out breath , but when my 'instructor' springs it on me occasionally and wants me to do it , I cant see why as it goes against OUR teachers teachings . And I NEVER seen a film of Mr. N doing it . I also NEVER seen Mr N. break stuff ; rocks or boards , etc . But I know that is part of Okinawan practice. Iron shirt and withstanding blows ( like the instructor kicking you with his work boots on as you hold each position in Sanchin ) is also practised. But to practice both within one style .... ? Hmmmm ... this just further clarifies my thoughts on what I thought WAS going on in Shorin ryu and with my 'teachers' in relation to Mr. N's ...... ' contribution' .

The reson I bought my first triumph as a lad ... I took an old 2nd hand one for a test drive . I lived down in a river valley that had a tight series of curves running down into the valley and backup out , so i took a run home and back . The bike seemed to effortlessly take the corners and double the speed I was used to . Just near the shop on the way back, I approached a T and braked, looking both ways (and not seeing the gravel patch on the intersection ) and seeing no cars, I accelerated, then saw the patch, too late, as was turning the corner and leaning into it, the front tyre slipped out .... "Oh nooooo , here I go ! " I thought ( having that happen before ... nasty ! ) , but the T had these huge clunky bolt on non folding up steel footpegs , the bike went down on to the foot peg, and I slid through the gravel at 45 degrees, both feet still up, came through the gravel, righted itself and continued on the line and lean around the corner . me ; " I didnt go down ! " .. or smash the shops bike . Rode back to shop " I'll take it ! "

That ... my friend .... is inspirational !

Awwww ..... ( that one got straight through my 'defences' ) Edit ; Oh yeah, considering 'expensive' its one of the cheapest motorcycles around eg ; the new 650 Enfield 'Interceptor', is HALF THE PRICE of a Triumph .... and is getting great reviews !

I am glad you added the 2nd bit . Obviously my question was a baited hook The 'Earth' will not die like that. The earth before life was teeming on earth , when it was a lava ball and being bombarded by meteors .... BEFORE ITS VIRAL INFECTION ... was also alive . When the infection is gone .... Earth will still be alive . We have had massive life extinctions before ... it comes back .... the earth lives through all of it . What the current ecological disaster is - it is that we are ruining the ecological set up to which we have become accustomed to and thrive in . I am an Australian and well aware of how we fuck things over and your terrible extinction rates in this country , I personally do not like it and do understand the damage ... but that will not kill the EARTH . We might infect it but when that reaches a crisis point , we will be made extinct ourselves ... or the earth may be amused by us and wipe most of us ut and keep a few remaining as curiosity or pets . save the earth ! Pshaw ! ... more like save our lives and the environment in the way WE want it to be . But thats fair enough . That is why I admire the Asutralian Aboriginals for so long ; regardless of climate change (naturally), glaciation, droughts, flooding rains great variation in sea levels, massive storms ( sou nding familiar 0 they where able to keep their environment that supported them going and working for over 50,000 years . Our modern attempts show failure after about 200 . Personally , I want to keep these little guys around though , even though thats just for my 'piece of mind ' , its the season when they start running around and chattering on the huge fire wheel tree that I have cultivated for their food (as well as other plants and food for a variety of animals and insects ) .. just outside my back door next to my bed ; Here is another thing about the Royal Enfield ; It is an old retro sort of model, the Indians bought the brand and started making them . Virtually the same bike, brand new every since 1955 ( modified due to safety and pollution requirements, but thats it ) Kudos to them for 'recycling' ! Its always been an issue for me , why all this waste with everything and a new improved model every year ? Why cant we have a version (of anything ) that is standard, good enough and not driven by the chuck out the old and get the latest new 'improved' version. Why get a bike or a car that can do 220 kph when the national limit is 110 ? etc . As fas as consequences go ... yup ! When I used to ride my triumph to work everyday, I also worked in a hospital emergence ward .. and mortuary .... the things I have seen ! When I went to pick up the bike ( with trailor) they go 'Going to take it for a ride first ? " Me; "No way ! " Then; : Why Not ?" " Around here ? With all this traffic, cars and trucks, busy roads roundabouts, lights, starting and stopping every 100 metres ??? Nah, I wait till I get home ... I live 6 km from one of the best bike runs on the east coast . " Yes, I tend to point the finger at myself I am at a gathering with some mixed folk and some Aboriginals (including my 'Shamanic Aboriginal teacher' - who is smirking as he knows what I am about to 'deliver ') Some white guy is mouthing off about how he is an environmentalist and he cares for this and that and will not do this or that but does do this or that so I go " Oh I am not ! " Him ( and a few others ) surprised " Oh ? Why not ? " "Oh , I am selfish bastard ! Couldnt give a fuck ... for example I drove up here in my car ( mine was a little small thing ... his a huge 4x4 gas guzzler , brand new looking and parked intrudingly near the camp ), burning fuel, polluting the air, on a road blasted through the environment ... fuck off outta my way nature ! Now, I come up here mostly for pleasure and to see my mates, of course I could stay at home instead .. maybe use some of my money, instaed of this to send to feed starving kids somewhere .... but I dont . Cause I am selfish ... if I wasnt I would live under a tent and eat gruel or at least home grown veg and send most of my money to people suffering a whole heap more than I could ever imagine . But nope ..... I am areal arse hole , I dont do none of that . " Guy is looking at ground ... thinking . My teacher is trying his best to not laugh and looking very serious .