Nungali

You mean you send the energy down an optic fibre cable ? (I am a lo-tech )

Funny, because I am a stickler for correcting 'projective language ' Shall we go again : I was having a nice lunch with XGF cause she wanted to shout me a meal for my birthday. .......

Like the internet ?

Yes - and ( since your curiosity abounds ) for other such rules laws and guidelines ( if you do not have a background in evocative magic ) see https://www.searchwithin.org/download/presence_spirits.pdf

and what ? .... you just leave it at that ???? wtf ? Sorry but .... "Owww my eye ! " " Oh yea, there is a shadowy figure behind you . " " Is there ? Damn ! " ... and then ????

You are having a nice lunch with XGF cause she wanted to shout you a meal for your birthday. The food is fine but for some strange reason it seems to be suddenly upsetting your stomach and you feel horribly nauseous. You get a weird feeling from across the road and look up and over there in a car is her new boyfriend looking daggers at you ... and then he suddenly looks down, pretending to be there 'coincidentally' and not stalking anyone at all .

A mirror .... things get reflected back to their origin . A bit like your 'surround myself with golden light ' , mine is bluish and reflective. Then, there are 'guardians and servitors' . Handy, as they can 'go on duty' without 'you' even knowing about it ( hence good for times of sleep and slack attention ). I still find a good LBRP effective as well . A track record helps ; I have had some admit it , and say they are going to stop it, as it keeps coming back on them. And such 'rumours' spread . Once bitten twice shy . People that have tried it are now sorry . I have warned some ; on the physical, mental emotional spiritual and magical levels, I am quite competent at defending myself . They are wary . Here is a good one (physical level ) ; a wild youth turned up here some time back, standing at the door giving me lip, saying "You getting a bit old now, what if a bunch of us came around and did a home invasion ? " - cheeky buggar ! But still, one must 'keep their hand in' . I was sitting back in a lounge chair, my hands behind my head, and against the wall. Stuck in the wall between boards and support pole was one of my throwing knives. I dont think he even saw my hand subtly take it up. I bought my arms down and let the knife fly. It stuck in the door jamb next to his head . yeah - dangerous, but I not having these punks think they can monster me . He totally freaked out ; " Whoa man ! Easy, settle down, I was joking ! " Me; " Of , so was I . That wasnt serious ... if I had been serious it would have gone through your Adam's apple . " ... and I am sure he told all his mates about it Young punks .... agro dogs .... 'demons' .... psychic attacks ..... similar stuff .

AUSAR https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ausar_Auset_Society

You can do the scary version in the mirror or with a friend, close up. My Indo school friend showed me the trick in his darkened garage, many years ago .... eventually their face 'changes'. His 'exotic looks' made me think his turned into some type of 'cat demon' ..... But we know already what type of ' visions of regression ' you would probably have ....

' energy cocoon' ?

who is who in the mirror ? reminds me of the 'who is who' with my midnight meditation / hand written note 'episodes' . (Except Apec claimed it was him snaeking into my house and leaving them notes .... )

I dont even have a smart phone , so ....

Please do not post nuclear missile launch codes on a public internet forum . They could get into the wrong hands ..

Well, look at the size and length of it . I can see the association here ...... maybe you cant relate to that ? here ya go, one designed for you ;

Because we were all young once . people can change and develop, their attitude and goals ..... with a little help .....

I thought you were the one that left Limi ?

That makes sense - thanks .... I have some works by Fr. A. so I now see his validity . What is your view, Donald, on the posters question ; " Why does Rubaphilos first affirm the validity of a physical process of alchemy, and then say that the alchemists' belief in or rejection of transmutation depends on his own personal motives in making such a claim? " ( Which i thought was the actual issue here , and which I was trying to answer )

But he didnt 'think' they were known to him either . I dont know what you are on about and you are responding to yourself up there ^ Its fine if you do not want a conversation, nor answer any questions about this I put to you . I will just vacate . Bye.

The Chinese one also has 6 in the middle

The 5 original paths were the work of the architect ... so not based on real function or sensible usage The added sixth one leads out from the main entrance. It doesnt make sense (feng shuicially ) to walk in the main entrance , proceed through to the courtyard and then have to walk to a corner to find the path to the centre . Now all you need to figure out is what is in the centre ! ?

pigeons, we dont have them, but have the rainforest relation 'Wompoo pigeon' or 'dove' ... Makes a great call .... but I cant find one on internet ???

Wot ? What made you think he said to me they were unknown to him ???? And how and why would someone that was unconscious and unaware of something say that they were unconscious and unaware of something that they were unconscious and unaware of ? I dont think he became aware of them at all , and my observations of his process were not communicated to him. Why did you assume they were ? Then after these strange postulations you state "I dont think so ' . - Well, neither do I think so, because that stuff never happened . As far as not being aware of something some teacher point out becasue they were there all along .... I havent a clue what you are talking about. You must have read a lot of stuff into my response that was never there in the first place .

Rubbish ! What if i send some seeker to go read and meditate on diamond sutra ? Or go and see a certain yoga teacher . That is more than general encouragement support witness. One can be very specific . It is neither foolish nor dangerous. So many people here have issues about this I am beginning to wonder what they are 'clutching' . Its like trying to stop Iran from developing nuclear energy !

Hmmmm .... I had a bunch of various manuals, books, charts, etc etc - 'magically ' and martially, eclectic. And no basic background, so yes, it was as you said ^ . And a whole lot of varied stuff in my head . I continued on like most people 'afflicted' like this. But I persevered. Eventually, as I studied more, did more practice, and trained and experienced with others ( ie. I 'grew' ) so much of all that stuff started to slot together and became understood on a deeper level . This can happen in latter life, or in a 'developmental progression' at the 'Third Degree' stage . After mine, it was an amazing experience, it was like looking at a jumble of clock parts on the table for years, not really knowing what they were, and then 'all of a sudden' you can see how the fit, and their purpose and function. I guess, sorta like they say, when 'your life flashes before your eyes' at death or near death experience. Everything falls into context . A wonderful; experience ! I wonder if it would have happened without the previous 'mish-mash' ? Also I realised that many things i had done in the past, things I learnt or followed that I thought were disconnected, were not. They all fitted together and happened for a reason I can now comprehend . 'Fatima the Rope Maker' is a Sufi story about that . A very good teaching story ! Its all tied in with our 'true will' our 'innate spiritual purpose' .... our own personal ' Khvarenah ' - http://www.heritageinstitute.com/zoroastrianism/overview/index.htm#khvarenah