Nungali

The oldest rock. An Australian Aboriginal story ; it goes through all sorts of stages and adventures ... basically its an 'epic journey of individuation' . This guy has a vision or calling to find the oldest rock, its a remanent from the first creation. At the end, he finally finds the people that are the guardian of it. They tell him it is out on a rock shelf just above high tide zone. he wants to know which one it is, they tell him 'he will know'. He does as it speaks to him . But its just this tiny little stone, so he takes it back to those people. 'What the big deal? its just a little pebble ? ' "Well, its so old ... it got all wore down . "

You mean he 'flinched' ? ( To make a quick, nervous movement of the face or body as an instinctive reaction to fear, pain or expectation ) Are you putting that up as a demonstration or example of some exotic power ? Amused observation or evidence of a 'joeblast' ? We used to do 'non flinch' training in aikido; a senior would rush in screaming with a blow and stop the sword on your forehead or nose . Its a pre requisite to 'not loosing one point ' . Okay I should have been more specific . But I thought you would have known, within this topic, what I meant. I have caused people to run away, without touching them . So 'no touch' techniques are actually .... impure BS . That better ?

The second two, but not Weor. Yes, I have knowledge to share about the occult in general , or specifically in certain areas.

I was ribbing starjuper . Us masters do that sometimes . My posts are free. Also I 'do stuff' sometimes, on line with people, also for free. I ran a western mystery school qualified initiatory body for many years, also for free for all who passed through it ( any money was for costs , food, etc . - I said 'for free' not 'freeloaders' . I also have been teaching martial arts and weaponry, from a rare and unusual tradition, for many years - never charged a cent . .... but then again ..... for ' some strange reason ' ..... I seem to get given a lot of stuff for free myself

So are these the sort of things you want to learn to do ? Firstly I suggest you look up this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siddhi In any tradition, these 'powers' these manifestations or 'siddhas' are actually 'side issues' or 'manifestations' of another process or AIM that you should be following . Again, read paragraph 19 and 20 in the text you quoted me on above .

I am not denying the depth of his influence . Actually many of my friends 'went that way' , some even went to Poona and some went to the 'commune' in USA and became inadvertently involved in the 'disgrace' there . Later the organisation chewed them up and spat them out. Later, in its post Osho ,more 'free form' days , I had a 'Sanyassan ' GF . It didnt do much for her . It bought up her hang ups, as it did with a few others I knew, but they never seemed to be able to resolve them. I mean , she had all these possessive hang ups, trips, and jealousy . Me ? I was 'cool ' .... I mean, I didnt even mind if she wore a picture of another guy around her neck in a locket . And the whole movement certainly did its part to dumify, water down, mix up and trash most of the other people's stuff and traditions they got their hands on. So it was pretty pop ... for the New Age . But what about your quest ? isn't that more important than such issues ? Shouldn't you be seriously enquiring about that ? Or do you wanna just 'banter ' ?

Are there not some in 'your neck of the woods' (somewhere in central or south America ) where its said some big spheres like that were man made ? Or was that a claim about natural ones ? Or were they 'finished off' natural ones ?

Here is something hilarious ; There was a discussion about this card on , the now defunct, Tarot Forum . Some women were giggling at the goats 'penis' : " What the hell ? ! ... Why is it like that ? etc . Instead of telling them they were actually looking at the top of the caduceus and its twin 'Egyptian' serpents I said " Oh yes, goats do have penises like that . " And some of them still ; " What ? Why ? .... but I can see two of them ! " Me; " Oh yes, goats have two - a sort of double penis ... bent in an S shape. " Then they freak out more ..... so in a later post I ; " Yeah, its weird, I agree , two penises ... in an S shape .... and both with little Egyptian crowns on them . " Some one else eventually posted " Its a caduceus you idiots ! " Classic !

Oh those ! As a geological fan .... I luv em ! very interesting formation process . Some were recently uncovered in the last big earthquake in NZ Moeraki Boulders The main body of the boulders started forming in what was then marine mud, near the surface of the Paleocene sea floor. This is demonstrated by studies of their composition; specifically the magnesium and iron content, and stable isotopes of oxygen and carbon. Their spherical shape indicates that the source of calcium was mass diffusion, as opposed to fluid flow. The larger boulders, 2 metres (6.6 ft) in diameter, are estimated to have taken 4 to 5.5 million years to grow while 10 to 50 metres (33 to 164 ft) of marine mud accumulated on the seafloor above them. After the concretions formed, large cracks known as septaria formed in them. Brown calcite, yellow calcite, and small amounts of dolomite and quartz progressively filled these cracks when a drop in sea level allowed fresh groundwater to flow through the mudstone enclosing them

On a more serious note Light seeker What exactly are these psychic powers you mentioned ? Saying 'like Osho, like Rasputin' is too vague . What specifically ? My tradition is western magical / hermetic , like those three above ( osho basically used neo Reichian body work and psychology with mystical sounding eastern terminology. I will give you free on line lessons about that . The first is about usage and intent (as others mentioned ) and a big warning but we need to say WHY you need a warning . That is because, with wrong intent and usage, you yourself will become a victim of those very powers you sought to master ! To obtain Magical Power, learn to control thought; admit only those ideas that are in harmony with the end desired, and not every stray and contradictory Idea that presents itself. 17. Fixed thought is a means to an end. Therefore pay attention to the power of silent thought and meditation. The material act is but the outward expression of thy thought, and therefore hath it been said that “the thought of foolishness is sin.” Thought is the commencement of action, and if a chance thought can produce much effect, what cannot fixed thought do? 18. Therefore as hath already been said, Establish thyself firmly in the equilibrium of forces, in the centre of the Cross of the Elements, that Cross from whose centre the Creative Word issued in the birth of the dawning Universe. 19. Be thou therefore prompt and active as the Sylphs, but avoid frivolity and caprice; be energetic and strong like the Salamanders, but avoid irritability and ferocity; be flexible and attentive to images like the Undines, but avoid idleness and changeability; be laborious and patient like the Gnomes, but avoid grossness and avarice. 20. So shalt thou gradually develop the powers of thy soul, and fit thyself to command the Spirits of the elements. For wert thou to summon the Gnomes to pander thine avarice, thou wouldst no longer command them, but they would command thee. Wouldst thou abuse the pure beings of the woods and mountains to fill thy coffers and satisfy thy hunger of Gold? Wouldst thou debase the Spirits of Living Fire to serve thy wrath and hatred? Wouldst thou violate the purity of the Souls of the Waters to pander thy lust of debauchery? Wouldst thou force the Spirits of the Evening Breeze to minister thy folly and caprice? Know that with such desires thou canst but attract the Weak, not the Strong, and in that case the Weak will have power over thee. http://lib.oto-usa.org/libri/liber0030.html

But ... then we all get it for free

DM s ? Didnt way I could teach you ? Goodness ! But you are right . He has been plastering silly stuff all over the place and DOES NOT answer questions put to him about it. Not a good way to start, for harvesting us for our skills and knowledge

A deep an meaningful PM ? And your sex ? Lesson 1 ... from Star wars is it ?

Ohh ? You can teach that sort of stuff ?

yes, I can ..... wait ... LIKE THOSE possessed by Gurdjieff, Osho, Rasputin Oh .. no sorry. I only teach the real stuff. For that other stuff, I suggest you go to some 'guru' who will have the ability to access your credulity accurately and charge you accordingly .

Yep. Sad as he could have really got somewhere . The 'Soken crew' could have kept training him .... in reality . Also with the weapons, instead of just buying them off him . I still got Soke Sai 1,2 and 3 and Soken Karma 1, 2 and 3 'in my belt' . Also he got the correct 'applications' but, like nearly all 'karate' forgot or ignored them ( ie. "Why you blockie ? No blockie ! " ) One must remember that Mr Soken went to Sth America taking the old form of 'Chinese Hand ' ( Kara - te ... they later changed the kanji to 'empty hand' ) - specifically 'Okinawan White Crane ' with him. Karate went through great changes while he was away, including being introduced as a primary school physical education system ; you cant teach kids that stuff ! Also, it got changed when taught to others, then got turned into a competition sport and all sorts of weird morphs happened to it. Including US style marketing and money making ! As Mr Soken said ' We make some of you one maybe two dan. We invite you back to learn more, but you dont you come. Now you are 5 or 6 dan? How did that happen " " Dillman : " Errrm ... ummmmm ..... aahhhh .... "

you mean the lady he had to slap upside the head as his 'no touch' was not working ? ( She must have been 'jiggling her big toes ' )

Look , Dillman is a delusional money Making martial arts nut from USA . 'Death touch' ( actually, strikes) can disable you . 'No touch' techniques are pure BS . That film, I think, showes how stupid Dillman got. When it was shown he couldnt do it and he blamed it on the 'big toe trick' he lost all remaining face in the intelligent martial arts community. originally it all came from Hohan Soken , the senior teacher in my tradition * And it was never ]pressure points' it is 'weak points' ... there are many 'weak points' and 'weak movements' in and of the body that are not 'pressure points' . As much as Dillman is a 'dill' he did show some honesty in this interview. * Mr Soken has now passed on , of course. One of his few remaining accredited students ; Ted Lange taught it here. I will actually be going to Sydney soon and catching up with Ted, he still trains ! " Among his students were Seiki Arakaki, Kohana Nakazato, Inoue, Masaya Kyan, Nishihira Kosei, Yuichi Kuda, Fusei Kise, Takaya Yabiku,[1] James H. Coffman, and Ted Lange " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hohan_Sōken (Even so, it may not work on some; they might be tough, have a different structure , you might slightly miss the point, often it works better on 'students' that have weak and sensitive 'points' from being 'demonstrated' on ( I do ! ) . Mr Nishihira had a fav point on the wrist he could subdue people with .he tried to demonstrate on my teacher - nothing. Again ... nothing .... again ...nothing. He dropped / threw the others hand away in a frustrated manner and exclaimed : ' Gaijin ! '

Well, it works if you can actually make contact . It doesnt work with no contact (unless you are a student )

Ha ha HAAAR only works on 40% of people ( people present that is .... 40% of people present are his students )

yes, I have a question . How did he confirm the presence of alien life forms on the Moon ? Since confirm means ; establish the truth or correctness of (something previously believed or suspected to be the case) confirm, corroborate, substantiate, verify, authenticate, validate mean to attest to the truth or validity of something. confirm implies the removing of doubts by an authoritative statement or indisputable fact. Hmmmmmm ?

yes .... its firmly cemented ... in the astral ... now .

nope . not available .

? I own the whole deck . (You didnt read 'naughtiness' into the Thelesoteric concept of 'energised enthusiasm' did you ? See such symbols in the sacred could be indicative of ....... ' preoccupation with the lower chakras ' Perhaps meditate on this instead Hopefully , you will not be able to erect any suspect symbolism .