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" somehow more 'sophisticated' when used in kabalistic magic " How so ? .... then again there is the 'Nungali Tree' . 'Sophisticated ' .... when used in personal astro-psychological magick
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... true story that ^ . Interesting phenomena ; 'I feel like itâs pulling me': The dangerous trance of Niagara Falls When we stand in a high place, our fear circuitry may send a signal like 'Back up, you might fall.' But the signal fires so rapidly, that we misinterpret it as the 'urge to jump' https://nationalpost.com/news/the-dangerous-trance-of-niagara-falls
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THE WATERFALL (Ellenbourough Falls ) âShe stepped off oh godâ how could she have done thatâ what space must your head be inâ to be able to do thatâ she stepped offâ I imagineâ calm and sereneâ not screaming and clawingâ and falling down,â âŹdownâ but streaming throughâ âŹthe layersâ of swirling mistâ to the rain forest floor belowâ like a rainbow arching down â to ground itself in the earth she stepped offâ beside the plunging waterfall â at the top of the vast vertical rock abyss at the head of the steep deepâ twisting serpentine gorgeâ right at the top of the worldâ right at the top of her worldâ she stepped off right at the top of her worldâ young beautiful and healthyâ (they told meâ)⏠the last person in the worldâ you would ever imagineâ who would do such a thing I have stood on that very spotâ and tentatively peeredâ over the edgeâ into that vast vertical chasmâ watching the water racing downâ and turn to sprayâ and felt that urge to fly myselfâ down to the rain forest belowâ and quiveredâ âŹand tried to inch backâ from that spot â the inexorable force drawing me downâ to where the topsâ âŹof the giant rain forest treesâ are bunched togetherâ like far away broccoli. Get away from thereâ a voice shoutedâ I turnedâ (without fallingâ)⏠the old uncle emerged from the bushâ he took my armâ pulled me from the edgeâ and looked deep into my eyes we satâ âŹstaring into each otherâ by the swirling poolâ his black crystal eyes â surveying my pain his dark skin wrinkled from searching my face It's the tail of the Rainbow Serpentâ Gunabar told meâ the twisted gorge is his body you have to be careful hereâ youâll fall right into itâ he talkedâ I asked questionsâ he looked at me through meâ you ask me questionsâ questions about energies and placesâ I'd say to youâ ⏠Gunabar said to meâ it's all about loveâ it all comesâ âŹdown to loveâ from your heart and then I heard the storyâ for the first time not long ago â a young white girl from around hereâ stepped off the edge it's not the first time she was happyâ âŹthey said nice girlâ good jobâ nice carâ why did she do itâ they didn't understand she left a note at the topâ I found that note Iâ âŹcouldnât find love anywhereâ it saidâ the only placeâ I could find love was hereâ that's all it saidâ she left that noteâ at the top of the waterfall â and stepped off my heart wasâ âŹshakingâ my eyes wateringâ a giant ball of emotionâ was surfacingâ from some deep partâ âŹinside myselfâ I looked down the valleyâ I turned and lookedâ âŹinto Gunabar's eyesâ they were like black far away poolsâ they were like places I have never seen the white people didn't understandâ ⏠I understandâ he told me they had a serviceâ at the top of the fallsâ they floated flowersâ âŹin the pool at the topâ I floated a broken branchâ and a broken boomerangâ ⏠symbols of a broken lifeâ my offering went over the edge the flowersâ âŹdidnâtâ they got stuck in a whirlpoolâ âŹat the topâ I gently pushed them over the edge with a stick I have since returnedâ and stood in that very placeâ high above the cloudsâ and been drawn againâ âŹto that roaring airâ that same placeâ where Gunabar told me that storyâ not at the edgeâ âŹbeside the fallsâ but around the sideâ near the lookoutâ where you can see the whole dropâ and Iâ âŹcanât help thinkingâ what space must your head be inâ to be able to do that the shock of the first newsâ âŹis still there it probably always will be thereâ she steppedâ âŹoffâ oh Godâ how could she so now I sitâ inexorably drawnâ and look at the viewâ the dropâ the fallsâ and I imagineâ that young beautiful girlâ that child of natureâ feeling so much loveâ but finding it nowhere elseâ gazing out over the mountainsâ head held highâ standing on the edgeâ beside the plunging roaringâ drawingâ âŹwaterâ andâ âŹgentlyâ stepping on the air I imagine herâ calm and sereneâ smiling and streaming down downâ the spark of her soulâ a streaming meteorâ accelerating through the airâ down downâ through the layers of swirling mistâ hurtling towards â the far away now zooming closer â broccoli forest below not screamingâ and falling downâ but plungingâ unstoppableâ totally committedâ into love.
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What does Daoism, and any tradition, call the astral and mental bodies?
Nungali replied to EmeraldHead's topic in General Discussion
'Astral' 'metal body' .... even 'etheric body' are modern terms thrown around by people who usually cant explain in detail what they mean. Their origins are mostly Theosophical, and in that light can only really be understood within those frameworks. Its not as if it is something 'real' it is a concept that developed over time from Proculous and then followed the usual development of 'western occultism' ; Mesmer, Levi, Golden Dawn, Blavatski, Theosophy and latter Theosophical writers and others , including Crowley ( who attributed its existence to the power of imagination ) . Basically astral comes from aster - star and the 'astral concept' originated from the old hermetic world view. The 'astral realm' actually consisted of the 'heavenly realm' which contained the 'spheres of the planets' with the 'mundane world' at its core . This gives the significant number of '7 spheres' , the original Theosophical concept ; http://www.theosophywales.com/seven_bodies_of_man__a_brie.htm read the section on astral; we can see it was originally a type of 'emotive imagination' function of the mind . The 'mental body' is really no more than the mind and mental process with the added on thing that a mind makes 'mental waves' and this somehow effects the 'astral world', somehow changing it and now making that the 'mental; world' . These 'teachings' came from post Victorian westerners who first encountered 'oriental mysticism' and tried to put into other terms , not very successfully and often confused eg : " Astral Body is a term used to refer to one or more of the subtle bodies of human beings. In early Theosophical literature it was usually applied to the Liáš ga-ĹarÄŤra, the ethereal counterpart of the physical body. However, the term was also used for other subtle bodies, such as the MÄyÄvi-RĹŤpa. Later, Dr. Besant, within the tradition followed by the Theosophical Society (Adyar), redefined the terms to apply them in an unambiguous way. She used the term "Etheric Double" for the Liáš ga-ĹarÄŤra and "Astral Body" for what she called the Emotional Body. " And here is a great example of how the New Age got so confused trying to follow all of this :" She also talked about the conscious projection of this subtle body, using the phrase "astral form" for it: " Sometimes this 'astral form' is called 'body of light' . Then besant did some swapping (like most post Blavatski Theosophical authors, they re wrote, censored, watered down Blavatski ) " She decided to call H. P. Blavatsky's linga sharira "etheric double" and use the name "astral body" only to refer to the kamic or emotional body: " It wasnt long before some started throwing the whole mess out. Lets just stick with 4 basic 'bodies' , the Anthroposophists ( Steiner etc.) decided that , based on the 4 elements used physical 'astral' and 'etheric' but added 'ego' (of a specific type ) . This went along with the basic Qabbalistic understanding of the '4 types of soul' . https://wn.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA319/English/APC1928/19240724p02.html Thats mostly the system I work with ( a 4 fold division - not a Steiner version ) ; Fire, water, air, earth ; the 'individual nature', the emotional 'body' , the mind and intellect and the physical body . (And each of these has another 4 fold sub division eg. the body has fire as the nervous system, water as the circulatory system, air as respiritory system and skeleton ,muscles, tendons etc as earth.) I have to say though, I dont really understand what this means : " It is used in evocation/invocation of spirits. Actually most 'evocations' have the purpose of meeting the spirit on the mental plane and connecting with them there. The physical dances contain and support the astral forms which make the bridge for connection at the mental plane - focusing consciousness upon the mental plane so your meeting them there is 'clear' to you." A lot more than the 'mental body' is used in spirit evocation - I suppose that depends on meaning of 'mental body'. 'Most' evocations seem to have the intent of a breakthrough into the physical plane Can you put this into other words : " The physical dances contain and support the astral forms which make the bridge for connection at the mental plane " ? -
And ..... ? And I merely read into that 'statement of fact' what it suggests . Maybe I was wrong to do that and its merely a random 'statement of fact ? It rather tempting to me now to make other 'random statements of facts' ... that have no other suggestive meaning at all ..... Well .... thank goodness ! There ^ our perspectives don;t differ ! Rant ? ! Why would I want to rant ? I shall tell you how awful rants are, they are the bain of human existence! . If rants were plentiful humans would become extinct! Extinct I say!! Humans also need to pick cherries with automated cherry pickers as this results in more plentiful harvests resulting in more people whos brains have been nourished by cherries and intelligent cherry nourished people are less likely to rant than those raised on blueberry farms, because they are subjected to blueberry fumes, and they are toxic, like non toxic glue , made of horse hooves. Horses can also help prevent rants as you cannot rant while riding a horse and you can't ride a horse if there aren't horses because they have all been made into non-toxic glue. ..... the rest of this rant can be followed on my upcoming TV series ;
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Its called Most mistake this as a 'defensive stance' ... but really it is the 'stance' one takes after receiving a 'gedan mi-geri' * ' *
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Probably caused by those silly boots !
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Really ... how about YOU sift through that asbestos dump to find your rainbow ? Maybe that will give you some perspective ? https://www.northernstar.com.au/news/deadly-legacy-asbestos-tailings-used-in-school-pla/3087595/
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What does that mean ? ' Motherland ' ... where one was born , where one's ethnicity differentiated or where we 'originated' ? Interesting comment though , you removed the 'ab' * and added mother land Ab (ŘŁŮب), from a theoretical, abstract form Ęźabawun ' is Arabic for father. In Aramaic father is ××× (abba) ... and Hebrew ; ×××â, "father" Some of the Koori ( Australian Aboriginals) I have associated with know an a LOT .... an amazing amount of 'knowing' . And its all held 'in memory' . Yes, (if I understand your question ) ... by taking away their knowing, knowledge and land and lifestyle they loose a lot of 'themselves' ... they feel empty, purposeless and depressed , confused about the meaning of life and why we are here and begin to forget the purpose of life . ...... just like a whitefellah you met Sean ^ before ? He deadly funny ! ;
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... and stone age still
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I am watching .... Aluminium noodles
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Garbage dump not good place to live, I stayed in one once .... as a guest of its residents . . Not far from here , people lived in asbestos dump ; and dumped asbestos in the kids playground (behind the three kids on the right ) and the school yard . not really due to the fact that they lived in poverty ... more that they were Aboriginal ( this was a 'special deal' set up for them ; "We create employment for you, make 'nice house' , build your kids a school ... dont live in the 'bush' * , come live here, we make you 'civilised' ( ... and we got a job for you ! " ) * the 'bush' and the 'poverty' they were extracted from : https://www.dropbox.com/sh/pnm5ocv8p294t5j/AACs9I6Ht9R_Z9K9vClLDwmfa
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I was driving to work one morning, turned on the radio to catch the news and see what the world was up to . The woman announcer was whining on and complaining and being all emotive to her radio partner that the 'dwell control' on her car window wipers didnt have enough settings to accurately adjust to the amount of rain hitting her wind shield .... to clear it to her satisfaction ..... and when she turned it up a notch, it was 'over wiping' .....
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I see unnecessary suffering all the time . I have even pointed out alternative paths of action that reaps the original intentions and eliminates the suffering - that is, a different approach to something that goes around the obvious disaster coming, if someone is following a certain path of action . But for some ... nope , they want the unnecessary suffering ... I guess they think it is 'necessary suffering' ? But they sure bitch about it when the inevitable suffering manifests from their approach .
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years ago a Hare Khrishna guy was trying to tell me how much he gave up to be on a spiritual path and how hard it was ; shaving his head, getting uo early every morning to chant - dietry restrictions, etc ... but he was sooooo dedicated ! (and 'pious' ) I laughed in his face .... "Why ...? " " Dont tell me that ! You LOVE IT ! You LOVE chanting Khrishna , it gets you high, you like the food, you love walking down the street in robes and having people know you are different, you love the whole thing .... you wouldnt have been attracted to it and kept doing it if you didnt . " He laughed and fessed up .... you could see it ( the joy ) in his beamey little face when he talked about it ( Krishna) . Good for him ! - but dont give me no 'sacrificial piousness' about it ! .
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If the 'ego' is as tricky as we suspect ... such piousness may be just another trick ? 'Spirituality' imbalanced by excessive cultural views and excessive passion ( hmmmmm .... 'excessive' anything ! ) Good thoughts IMO . We are 'in' the world , that doesnt mean that the 'world', the 'mundane' or the 'everyday' are not spiritual things in themselves. You know, it might not be so much about what you are involved with, but your attitude about such things. Sometimes one has to go 'far out' to get a perspective before we 'come back in' . Out right rejection and aversion are signs of weakness and an indication that we cant really deal with the issue at hand .
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Wow ! Some big egos in this lot then .....
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Why do so many teachers and gurus die at a young age and/or do not look great?
Nungali replied to ALA's topic in General Discussion
..... and they should be able to sing as well from 4:00 ; -
helicopters make me nervous ! ( I used to have to run out to them, get under their rotating blades and pull injured people out of them at the hospital helipad ) Helicopters near tornadoes make me even more nervous !
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HOLY SHIT ! from 4:37
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...... arrrghhh ! .... my epilepsy ! You make me fit !
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Nah . its that we get 'nodes' and peaks of genius , sometimes in clusters ( I mean , look at what was going on around 500 bc *! ) ... we seem to have been in a slump for a while . Edit : * I meant generally, not musically
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He needs to ....