Nungali

I knew someone that had a shit life and tried to end it, they failed. years later their life is now fantastic and they love it ! Close call that one !

In 'parapsychological experiments' , IMO they need to be 'outside' the system to give significant results . I might be able to heal or change myself or a placebo might have the same effect . The idea here was to effect change outside of the self, with no obvious medium of physical influence . Thats why I wanna run the 'double blind placebo experiment' .

so much of it is going on... to divert from your aim here ... it seems like a mass debate .

yes, but it was not those animal behaviours I was referring to when I said animals think , as I said above, some animals can be presented with a problem, you can see the expression on their face as they try to work it out and when they do their expression changes to one of 'realisation' . Most people that own a dog have experienced this . Also we can observe behaviours that are above the base conditions of most animals ( the bolded bits above ) and mammals and more specifically primates (the italicised above ) , maybe 'thinking' is the wrong term here, perhaps 'realisation' I meant the common understanding of the term culture , not one tailored to fit a premise : "Culture is the characteristics and knowledge of a particular group of people, encompassing language, religion, cuisine, social habits, music and arts. The Center for Advance Research on Language Acquisition goes a step further, defining culture as shared patterns of behaviors and interactions, cognitive constructs and understanding that are learned by socialization. Thus, it can be seen as the growth of a group identity fostered by social patterns unique to the group. "Culture encompasses religion, food, what we wear, how we wear it, our language, marriage, music, what we believe is right or wrong, how we sit at the table, how we greet visitors, how we behave with loved ones, and a million other things," Cristina De Rossi, an anthropologist at Barnet and Southgate College in London, told Live Science. The word "culture" derives from a French term, which in turn derives from the Latin "colere," which means to tend to the earth and grow, or cultivation and nurture. "It shares its etymology with a number of other words related to actively fostering growth," De Rossi said. " https://www.livescience.com/21478-what-is-culture-definition-of-culture.html To be the deified and personified collective super ego of the local cultural mores and taboos . To put it really simply .... its just the way humans work I can explain to a group of tribal people that if they continue a certain action, it will lead to a problem, even with proof and demonstration .... nope ! Put on a mask, dance around with a rattle and say big man in sky says so , and it will embed and become behaviour , mores, eventually religion . The purpose or role of the gods is to support and give authority to social constructs. What about Gods that are part human part animal ? Where do they fit in to your 3 fold scheme Then again there is 'Puppy Jesus " The Gods 'slipped in to' literature awaiting you on the other side of the Rabbit Hole are there for the same reason of impetus as they are with mores and taboos in a collective sense , but with this example above it is an individual impetus I think its just a matter of misinterpretation. By now, you should not feel you missing something ... unless these explanations are not sufficient . If so, good luck trying to nut this all out . Thats another big rave , relating to psychology, 'divine' (when one examines the word in detail ; godly, godlike, but also angelic, seraphic, saintly, and even beatific but also lovely, handsome, beautiful, good-looking, prepossessing, charming, delightful, appealing, engaging, winsome, ravishing, gorgeous, bewitching and beguiling;) has extra connotations that suggest an inner desire to mate ourselves with the 'perfect partner' for ourselves ... that will never, and can never manifest. Liz Greene, the psychological astrologer has written some excellent stuff on this 'psychological drive' . Again, this is another dynamic to help 'drive us on'.

This depends on whether we are talking traditional Kabbalah or hermetic Kabbalah. There is a traditional association via Sepher Yetzirah via the 'cube of space' concept that is generated from the Hebrew Alphabet (3 / 4 manifestation again ) But 'modern' hermetic Kabbalah has attributed a wealth of associations to the ToL , many that traditional Judaistic kabbalists would scorn, like attributing the Tarot to the Tol. In this system the pathways between Sephiroth have astrological associations (as in the diagrams in Michael's post ) - there are more than one system of attribution though. For 'straight' Hebrew astrology - Mazzaroth. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_views_on_astrology .

Nobility ? HA! Here you go .... a nobility neutraliser Why should I respect nobility ? Respect is something to be earned - not inherited by birth. I suspect you think you are part of nobility, hmmmmm ? What happened to you Lois ? You guys used to have a good history in this regard :

Hang on there ..... humans are animals too! We need to closely examine the reasons and implications of thinking we are in a 'level' above them. of course there is a significant difference between the other animals and humans, and that difference is culture, not thinking, animals think ... of course they do. You can even see the thinking process and when they arrive at a conclusion or solution in their changing facial features. Animal thinking is easily demonstrated in many species, including birds - especially the corvids. Now the Gods. That is different, they are a projection of our culture; a personified and deified projection of the mores and taboos of the local societies collective supper-ego. meditation is a word that can mean many things, there are many different types of meditation aimed at different results. But in our modern new age. dont worry about that, sit and be still, try not to think and Ommmmm and presto ! .... its 'meditation' . Nope, sorry that is not correct. No, it is based on false assumptions , which can have rather nasty implications ( for both animals and humans) Well, step Ac ( animal with culture) It stays up there floating around in the cloud of the collective super ego .

Beautiful stone, I had not seen it before. 'Down here' we are known for a different type of stone ;

Ohhhh...... he meant the glyphs and symbols people write on or attribute to the Sephira of the Tree of Life . That last image is pretty cool ! Ah ! I think I get you now, you are talking about using the tree of Life as a classification system for anything . Yes, that can work if the units are attributed to the right sector of the whole . Z'ev ben Shimon Halevi ( Warren Kenton ) has written some good examples of that .... eg, how a car works according to ToL Kenton is a popular author on kabbalah; " when talking of the tension between Tradition and Modernism: This dilemma is captured in ancient notions of balance and harmony; notions that are, for example, expressed in many guises in that wonderful Kabbalistic diagram of the Tree of Life. As the Temenos Fellow, Warren Kenton, so beautifully explains in his lectures to the students of the Academy, the teaching of the Tree of Life is that the "active" and the "passive" aspects of life, which on their own may lead to imbalance and disharmony, must be, can only be, brought together in harmony by the influx into our lives of the Divine and the Sacred. Whether or not we interpret this image as an explanation of an outer or an inner orientation, it is in this way, and only in this way, that the forces, or characteristics, of expansion and constraint can be brought into balance " - Charles, Prince of Wales. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z'ev_ben_Shimon_Halevi

Apparently not Nungali ... and now VIYY is starting to swamp the thread with his typical post bombing and the old red and yellow highlights ..... refusing to take it to the new thread specifically designed for it .. ... and some of these people claim they are 'advanced' .... HA!

Does being a descendant of Irish bread stealing convicts deported to a penal colony count as 'noble' ? If so, yes then.

NEXT !

Hey ! Thats my birthday !

Thankyou ! Now, can we get on with this experiment ?

No ... there was no bat with me on hamsin dolerat WTF ?

yes, apparently ordering one cheeseburger is 'awesome' .

What glyphs or symbols are on the Tree of Life ?

Well, if people dont like the random number generator experiment, we could try a random orgasm generator . You send out the energy and we will fill out the forms below

Because you were not following the conversation in combination with the thread intent . Not surprised , considering the disruptions .

Ohhhhh .... come ON man ! That doesnt count ! He is a black guy !

Same guy , yes, thats why you should take everything he says very seriously but I wouldnt exactly call it LOVE at a distance . It was in McDonalds I think . Who knows where the poop smell came from ? I went to McDonalds myself the other day, at the drive through speaker I said " One cheeseburger please." When I got to the window a very young lady asked me " What was your order again ? " I said " One Cheeseburger. " She said ; " Awesome! " - true story. ... ( no one had an orgasm though ) .

Hilarious ! From a guy that could just have posted " Okay, I will give it a shot . " You guys !

Yes. But in some cases both believers and non believers act the same way ; believers from fear of exposure, non-believers from fear of proof. I understand its frustrating for you, but it is also interesting to observe . It doesnt worry me as I spent many many years practising magick in a system of 'scientific illuminism', that is , the principles of scientific investigation are applied to magical experiments. I had no fear of success OR failure ... it was about observation , not confirmation .

Love isnt a physical system . So has nothing to do with PK . You want to physically manipulate love ' from a distance' ... thats more like New Age Witchcraft

You base your beliefs on your own personal observations , yet being called a believer is the most offensive attack that can be thrown at you ? Okay then . .... not that I expect any sense or internal consistency from these intrusive and subversive posts anyway .