Nungali

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  1. Divine Absolution

    Indeed ... he had to say an extra two 'Hail Mary's ' and light 6 candles and put them in the side shelf . (note ; please place $2 for each candle used, in the coin box provided )
  2. Crowley and Daoism

    See Thoth tarot 2 of discs for one example ; " . It shows the type of Energy appropriate to Two, in its most fixed form. According to the doctrine that Change is the support of stability, the card is called Change. .... The card represents two Pantacles, one above the other; they are the Chinese symbols of the Yang and Yin duplicated as in the Hsiang. One wheel is dextro- and the other laevo-rotatory. They thus represent the harmonious interplay of the Four Elements in constant movement. One may in fact consider the card as the picture of the complete manifested Universe, in respect of its dynamics. About them is entwined a green Serpent His tail is in his mouth. He forms the figure Eight, the symbol of the Infinite, the equation 0=2. " - 'Book of Thoth '
  3. Chinese Bones

    Aryan Invasion theory debunked ; The 'Indian view ' http://indiafacts.org/aryan-invasion-myth-21st-century-science-debunks-19th-century-indology/ " The Northern people in India got especially sucked into this interpretation of history because it made the “Aryan” northerners appear racially closer to the white races of Europe." http://uwf.edu/lgoel/documents/amythofaryaninvasionsofindia.pdf Gosh , that one makes the Aryan Invasion theory seem racist ! " There was no Aryan invasion- the Rigvedic people were already established in India no later than 4000 BCE. This means as correctly pointed out by Suzanne Marie Sullivan Aryans invading Indus valley was a hoax . " https://www.quora.com/Is-Aryan-invasion-theory-correct-or-not ' One of the main ideas used to interpret—and generally devalue—the ancient history of India is the theory of the Aryan invasion. " https://www.sol.com.au/kor/16_01.htm " an inter-continental research in cellular molecular biology has debunked the Aryan invasion theory. " http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-new-research-debunks-aryan-invasion-theory-1623744 " The Aryan invasion theories and the eternal nature of caste are for India similar to ... is increasing evidence that the Aryan invasions never took place." http://genetics.med.harvard.edu/reichlab/Reich_Lab/Press_files/Fountain Ink - December 2013 - Cover.pdf "It is not widely known that the European quest to appropriate the highly prized library of Sanskrit’s ancient spiritual texts motivated the construction of the “Aryan” race identity, one of the ideological roots of Nazism " http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rajiv-malhotra/how-europeans-misappropri_b_837376.html According to that one , people who try to prove Aryan Invasion Theory support nazisim I could go on .... but I do say chaps ,,, its all rather old fashioned English post-Victorian, semi-occult imperialist stuff ,eh what ?
  4. Chinese Bones

    Genetically or culturally ?
  5. Crowley and Daoism

    What is it he couldnt do (even ) ? O at a D ? 'The Occult' by Wilson is very dated and not that deep ... isnt it ? But why read Crowley on TTC ? Thats like reading BSR ' transliterations ' on Rumi , when one can read Rumi directly translated.
  6. Chinese Bones

    yeah ..... that was my point ... . They worried about snakes and spiders when they come here , yet they have bears at home ! UNless ...... But no 'bears' .... thats why cabin is built the way it is and has the doors open most of the time when warm . Maybe bird will come in , or a goanna " Lemmie in ! I need the stove to make rabbit stew ! "
  7. Chinese Bones

    Oh, that view is common knowledge ! We could get into another long debate about that one . he DID appear to practice the Zoroastrian principle of 'Good Kingship ' though Ummmm .... the 'overall concept ' of everywhere / when is STILL warfare ! Cut the silly inferences , and the 'invasion' was thrown out by scholars long ago ... this is they way you 'operate' ; You say I gloss over the invasion then you say there is evidence for 'change when they entered ' yes, there was 'change when they entered ' as there is some evidence of that, but there is not evidence of an 'invasion' You have constantly used these tactics throughout many pages in an attempt to discredit me . Whatever . I must say it is probably tedious for many , who are interested in the subject to have to wade through or avoid all of your tactics, bluffs blinds genetics (that were not even part of my considerations , which I co and others continually point out . and this tactic of NOT posting a quote of what I did say, but you forming it out of your own words and changing it so you can argue against it .... continually ! And when I bought this up last time a 'quote' appeared from 'me ' yet had no time and date stamp on it . D N A evidence of an invasion ? I dont think you really know what you talking about ! Mate , I dont even know what you are on about anymore . Who here said he ever was ??? and you say I wrote idealised rubbish ! and Plato argued against rule by force and might being right , he was Greek wasnt he ? Ohhh ... you idolise them and fop over them dont you ? ... just Like I apparently 'idolise' Cyrus More quoting with non quotes ... ho-hum . And that ^ is what I call 'muddying the waters ' Okay then ... I stand guilty of saying things that have nothing to do with Taoism Well is it now ? Funny how it has areas of subjects that are NOT daoism ... maybe you shut down all converse here that is not Taoism ? Put in a request to the mods about that and see how you go PS I also put up here a picture of a non taoist Triumph Bonneville Please accept my apologies and instead , you can view this Jialing X-Fire
  8. Chinese Bones

    I just cannot fathom that ! Visitors from USA to here got spooked ; poisonous snakes ,,, spiders ... even got giant stinging trees ... whats going on ! Me; " Well, at least I dont have to take a shotgun with me when I go up to the outhouse ! " ... If a bear even leaned on a door or windows on my cabin , he'd come crashing through !
  9. Chinese Bones

    A guy at work ( film industry ) made heaps of money one year .... and stupidly went out and bought a Hummer . Then he realises there is no spare tyre, so he goes off at the distributer .... but they tell him he doesnt need one. But he insists he must have one and gets it and pays over 1G for it Then someone else that owned one tells him he didnt need it .
  10. Chinese Bones

    Thats right . and thats why I wrote it in ( ... ) and ' ..... ' ( so I didnt have to write ... what you just did . ) Some Indian scholars will tell you they were ALL Dravidians (then they start throwing copies of the Rig veda at each other Now you are getting it ! As in most discipline if anyone wants to start a dispute ( I am not referring to you ) one can always find some paper or 'official' opinion that tries to show the opposite. The 'river discussions' get REALLY complex ! OI ! and in the end , little is 'proved' http://www.heritageinstitute.com/zoroastrianism/aryans/location.htm#veh http://historum.com/asian-history/128081-aryan-migration-theory-update-51.html (Oh boy ! Is voidisyingyang gonna luv that last one ! ... considering his cultural confusions and all ) The Upper Indus ( 'system' ) was listed as nation 15 in the Vendidad - 'Hapta Hindu . It would not seem unusual to have contact with those down river . Also there is nation 13 - 'Chakrem' a bit 'lower down ' ? Yet its location is uncertain, some say Gazni, SE Afghanistan or others , even north Iran . They were known to be 'corpse burners' .. this signifies a variation from the latter Zoroastrian practice of not burning . And there is that 'IVC trading post' over the Kush and into the Oxus headwater. Like I said previously, I am postulating different groups associated by different things , they might have been joined by trade, or cultural similarities. Thing is , even the ' first people ' got to the places they did , somehow ... eg China . Do some people think no one ever continued to travel those routes from the paleolithic onwards ? I really recommend the UNESCO funded History Central Asia - Vol 1 'The Dawn of Civilisation' , its a real eye opener !
  11. Chinese Bones

    I have a copy of prob the most stupid book I read . Oh well, all is well that ends well : now you got me interested in "Nine nights with the Taoist Master."
  12. Chinese Bones

    Not curious at all my 'friend' Read any good books lately ?
  13. New Tarot Forum Born

    hang on ..... Ah - haar!
  14. New Tarot Forum Born

    Oh ! On the left .... okay .
  15. New Tarot Forum Born

    oaky thanks
  16. Chinese Bones

    Cyrus the Great's original plan for the Triumph Bonneville ;
  17. Chinese Bones

    and the Bonneville salt flats gave its name to the most superior motorcycle ever ( Never ...... never ... sell your old Bonny ! Your life will be full of regret )
  18. Chinese Bones

    It shows that ... ' those people that would become Vedic Indians ' ( or , to put it another way - those PIE speakers, perhaps in the more southern areas or concentrated more in the southern areas ) already had, or developed because of , contact or intermingling with the 'Dravidians'. I wrote about this earlier and cited an Indus valley trading post way up in Afghanistan on an Oxus tributary ( that flows into and through 'Bactria' ) ..... there already was Indus influence in central asia before the 'Aryanisation' of NE India . Thats why they constantly have this argument about it.... there is evidence of both an Indus ingress into Central Asia and a central Asian ingress into India . Like I said at the beginning, people flowed back and forward and to and fro ... it only common sense ! The problem is people look at one set of evidence ... and also do not consider, 'evidence' , especially archaeological , is just 'the stuff that we have found' , whereas 'cultural anthropology' needs to look at just about every indicator over wide fields ( yes, even religion and mythology ) . There is also evidence to indicate Indus ( ' Dravidians ' ) had contact with Mesopotamia via the (mostly mythological) port of Dil - mun . But I already wrote about that .
  19. Chinese Bones

    Sure you can start over again ; here is your stone axe, your buffalo skin lap-lap and a fire stick ... you can have the last cave on the end at the right ... near the saber tooth tiger lair .
  20. Chinese Bones

    Okay ... I type in 'history of human rights ... first hit In 539 B.C., the armies of Cyrus the Great, the first king of ancient Persia, conquered the city of Babylon. But it was his next actions that marked a major advance for Man. He freed the slaves, declared that all people had the right to choose their own religion, and established racial equality. These and other decrees were recorded on a baked-clay cylinder in the Akkadian language with cuneiform script. Known today as the Cyrus Cylinder, this ancient record has now been recognized as the world’s first charter of human rights. It is translated into all six official languages of the United Nations and its provisions parallel the first four Articles of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. The Spread of Human Rights From Babylon, the idea of human rights spread quickly to India, Greece and eventually Rome. There the concept of “natural law” arose, in observation of the fact that people tended to follow certain unwritten laws in the course of life, and Roman law was based on rational ideas derived from the nature of things. Documents asserting individual rights, such as the Magna Carta (1215), the Petition of Right (1628), the US Constitution (1787), the French Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen (1789), and the US Bill of Rights (1791) are the written precursors to many of today’s human rights documents. http://www.humanrights.com/what-are-human-rights/brief-history/ The 2nd hit was wiki which shows BOTH academic view points ..... and it isnt THAT unusual for a subject, when looked at deeply for academics to argue about it ... of course ; " In opposition to the above viewpoint, the interpretation of the Cylinder as a "charter of human rights" has been dismissed by other historians and characterized by some others as political propaganda devised by the Pahlavi regime.[8] The German historian Josef Wiesehöfer argues that the image of "Cyrus as a champion of the UN human rights policy ... is just as much a phantom as the humane and enlightened Shah of Persia",[9] while historian Elton L. Daniel has described such an interpretation as "rather anachronistic" and tendentious.[10] The cylinder now lies in the British Museum, and a replica is kept at the United Nations Headquarters. thats the part in wiki containing some criticism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_human_rights Text , where it SAYS what the rights are ; http://www.britishmuseum.org/research/collection_online/collection_object_details.aspx?objectId=327188&partId=1 But do we just fling academics conflicting views at each other ? I suggest not, everything I have written does not come from running to the internet and googling for an adverse opinion ... one has to look at the subject holistically , and I have to assume you have not, as earlier on, with many subjects here you didnt have a cue they exosted until you decoded to refute what I was saying. Any hooz, there is ither indicators other than the Cyrus seal ... if they treared people well, the evidence should be in history , in the past , we need to find where it came from ... we can , the concept of Good Kingship ... its in the Avestas ... the evidence ? The release of the Jews and their support is one . For the religious, 'it says so ! ' - in the BIble . Historically ; Treatment of women ; " This section is dedicated to some of the most powerful women of Persia that never received the historical recognition they deserve due to passage of time and accidents of history. Women in Persia were very honored and revered, they often held very important & influential positions in the Courthouse, Ministries, Military, State and Treasury Department, and other official administrations. The significant role of women in Ancient Persia both horrified and fascinated the ancient Greek and Roman male-dominated societies. The fortification tablets at the Ruins of Persepolis also reveals that men and women were represented in identical professions and that they received equal payments as skilled laborers and that gender was not a criterion at all (unlike our modern world). New mothers and pregnant women even received wages far above those of their male co-workers in order to show appreciation. Women enjoyed a high level of gender equality before the imposition of the dark, backward, and pernicious Abrahamic ideologies (Judaism, Christianity, and especially Islam) after the barbaric Arab invasion upon Persia which destroyed our Equal rights, Freedom of speech and Freedom of religion and replaced those factors with central primitive brutal government, prejudice and slavery. There is much evidence that the principles of Zoroastrianism lay the core foundation to the first Declaration of Human Rights in the Persian Empire set by Cyrus the Great since the rulers of Persia were Zoroastrians and relatively liberal and progressive. " http://www.persepolis.nu/ http://apranik.blogspot.com.au/2009/10/persian-female-warriors.html Some of the first people that gave animals rights ( again , it their law, in the Avestas ) http://www.animalsandsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/foltz.pdf Religious toleration ; " Professor Richard Frye, a renowned expert in Iranian and Central Asian studies, notes that “[T]he figure of Cyrus has survived throughout history as more than a great man who founded an empire. He became the epitome of the great qualities expected of a ruler in antiquity, and he assumed heroic features as a conqueror who was tolerant and magnanimous as well as brave and daring. His personality as seen by the Greeks influenced them and Alexander the Great, and, as the tradition was transmitted by the Romans, may be considered to influence our thinking even now.”[8] " " Cyrus introduced a different approach and attitude towards religious tolerance in the region.[12] Subsequent Achaemenid emperors, for example Cambyses and Darius, continued Cyrus’s policies and allowed the satrapies (provinces of the Achaemenid Empire) to maintain their own laws, and religious and cultural values. This religious tolerance proved to strengthen the political stability and success of the Achaemenid Empire. " https://tavaana.org/en/content/cyrus-great-and-religious-tolerance The Archaemenian kings are known to have been very pious Zoroastrians, trying to rule justly and in accordance with the Zoroastrian law of asha (truth and righteousness). Carving from the ruins of Persepolis © Cyrus the Great was relatively liberal. While he himself ruled according to Zoroastrian beliefs, he made no attempt to impose Zoroastrianism on the people of his subject territories. The Jewsmost famously benefited from this; Cyrus permitted them to return to Jerusalem from exile in Babylon, and rebuild their temple. This act of kindness made a huge impact on Judaism. Zoroastrian philosophy powerfully influenced post-Exilic Judaism. Darius the Great was famously pious and showed the same general tolerance for other faiths as his predecessor Cyrus. His piety is expressed in religious inscriptions left on his tomb. http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/zoroastrian/history/persia_1.shtml How Cyrus’ View of Religious Toleration May Have Inspired the American Constitution http://blog.cyrusmehta.com/2013/07/how-cyrus-view-of-religious-toleration-may-have-inspired-the-american-constitution.html Of course some people argue about this .... and some are academics ... they are allowed to have varied viewpoints . BUT that is how Cyrus is known and what he is famous for ..... one cant really make the same argument for Genghis Khan, Stalin, or other leaders that are known for Intolerance . Unless you are suggesting the Cyrus pulled off the biggest propaganda scam in all of known history
  21. New Tarot Forum Born

    How does one realise what a computer wants from you , aside from what it told you it wants ? ! Maybe I am not dressed correctly ... wrong shoes .... or something
  22. New Tarot Forum Born

    The password does not contain the required characters.
  23. New Tarot Forum Born

    ... you won't see much It refuses to register me no matter what type of password I use ; letters numbers symbols combinations . same message over and over as above
  24. New Tarot Forum Born

    Or open a temple and worship a woman .