Nungali

We can 'respond' to any of the many 'archetypes' within us (or we can just be a 'vessel for reaction with ' them .

They dont have to descend from anybody ..... Its an 'energy' 'archetype' 'paradigm' ..... or as they used to call them 'Gods' or 'God force' . Supposedly this particular one has moved to the forefront ;

are you sure about that ?

Well, I started this thread ... and I dont mind if we switch topics to this . (better than nazism and other BS ) I can see you are interested ( shocked, want ti inform people , etc ? ) Its something I studied in the past * soil science ' . At Uni years back when lecturer gave out the details of the amounts of annual soil loss in just one area of Queensland, I thought he was mistaken ... then I thought the book must have been a misprint . No. And it has been continuing ever since . We also learnt how long it took to form those soils. Also I worked for BD Agriculture Australia making and distributing natural fertilizer and soil remedies and recovery process. ( Not that the overall problems can be addressed now ... its too big, and too many people . We just worked small, one area at a time . ... and dont look up and see how far THAT road stretches ! Its just too disheartening .... head down, and concentrate on this bit . Also I have studied the ancient ' arming ' methods that were discovered when Euros fist came here. They saw some signs of farming but didnt understand it as it was done in unrecognised way (ie, the land appeared 'natural'. ) The grass situation mentioned above ; the used 'fire stick farming ( and their are government programs running today where they get Aboriginals to educate people and national Parks Officers about it . One example is what was called 'The New Hampshire Hills ' in the middle of the tasmanian rainforest , they assumed it was natural ... it wasnt . It was a giant area of green and succulent grass , actually a ;kangaroo farm without a fence. They managed many different types of burns and depending on daytime, weather and many factors, the type of burn would determine what plants grew back. Slow burns do not disrupt the perennial grass roots but encourage new growth above the surface . It is estimated that the 'new hampshire Hills ' 'farm' operated for thousand of years . After Europeans took it over , drove the aboriginals out, introduced sheep and western farming methods ... ti was fucked and an environmental disaster within 20 years !

And I am pretty sure Gendao never said that either ! You have a propensity to create your own arguements with yourself but seem unhapy about that so use other people's comments and inject foreighn bodies into them which you then go about tryng to extract and criticise . Have you realised this yet ? .

Same here .... I even said people that were considered to be Aryan was bit due to race or colour ... it was a culture .. I can tell you though where all the racist stuff. " 'They are white ! " foaming at the mouth and nazi ranting came from ..... and it was NOT you or me ! Indeed !

PS ' a "Lost Civilisation , means ..... they did not know about it, or overlooked it or it was lost to historical record . - but not the record in the Vedas, Avestas, Bundahishn , Vendidad , etc ie. they are considered non-historical. Also it is estimated that 90% of the Records in Persia were destroyed by Alexander and others , all the way up to the Arab conquest . Looks like some peoples were trying to 'remove ' something ?

Oh no, not forgetting .... more like ' didnt know about it ' until after 1970s (they didnt even know about BMAC ) - but for understandable reasons reasons : " Central Asia's Lost Civilization The unveiling of a 4,000-year-old civilization calls into question conventional ideas about ancient culture, trade, and religion. News of this lost civilization began leaking out in the 1970s, when archaeologists came to dig in the southern reaches of the Soviet Union and in Afghanistan. Their findings, which were published only in obscure Russian-language journals, The initial trickle of information dried up in 1979 when the revolution in Iran and war in Afghanistan locked away the southern half of the Oxus. Later, with the 1990 fall of the Soviet Union, many Russian archaeologists withdrew from Central Asia . ...... Although unknown to most Western scholars, this ancient civilization dates back 4,000 years—to the time when the first great societies along the Nile, Tigris-Euphrates, Indus, and Yellow rivers were flourishing. " http://discovermagazine.com/2006/nov/ancient-towns-excavated-turkmenistan

yes. I was a bit confused about what "and I took it away " meant ? Reminds me of a ' joke ' that the same ending could apply to here ; A comedian was being interviewed about what it is life to have that profession ... and a question, has he ever really messed his act up on stage . He winced and ... "One time, most eople were having a great time and laughing ... except this older couple in the front... I couldnt get a smile. So I stopped and said 'I notice you are not smiling ... is something wrong ?" They said " Yes ... recently our son was taken out by a shark ." The whole place went dead and a gloom settled down. Thinking it is my job as a comedian , to lift up peoples spirits , and in some blind moment of idiocy, I offered ... " Well ....... perhaps the shark too him out somewhere nice ? "

Oh no ! Kongming ... you are about to be reported !

Also you could send an email to Strabo explaining how he just revealed himself as a Natzi 11.8.2On the left and opposite these peoples are situated the Scythian or nomadic tribes, which cover the whole of the northern side. Now the greater part of the Scythians, beginning at the Caspian Sea, are called Däae, but those who are situated more to the east than these are named Massagetae and Sacae, whereas all the rest are given the general name of Scythians, though each people is given a separate name of its own. They are all for the most part nomads. But the best known of the nomads are those who took away Bactriana from the Greeks, I mean the Asii, Pasiani, Tochari, [Note] and Sacarauli, who originally came from the country on the other side of the Iaxartes River that adjoins that of the Sacae and the Sogdiani and was occupied by the Sacae. And as for the Däae, some of them are called Aparni, some Xanthii, and some Pissuri. Now of these the Aparni are situated closest to Hyrcania and the part of the sea that borders on it, but the remainder extend even as far as the country that stretches parallel to Aria.

Ohhhh Goood ! let us all know what his response to you is .

Leaves bug on berry .... bird swoops in and eats it .

and a line of supermarket products ;

Yes . I added that myself as I am in the habit of quoting something from another source ... then inserting words and wrong info into it ... and then supplying the link to the original ... and then hope I dont get caught . Oh dear ! It was actually a quote from Strabo in Geographica , now back to our punctuation lessons when someone writes a name and a book title followed with ; and " ........ " that indicates the source and what was said . Now if that source and its implications re this subject is beyond you ... like all other explanations seem to have been here , from not just me .... then, I suppose this is beyond you as well . So , look , dont worry about anything ... you are right , Okay .. now you can go on your way and feel better about it all If you like ... as long as you get a laugh out of that ( for whatever reason )

I will pass and leave that question up to the 'Kami expert ' However, I can help you with distinguishing them in the area of ; Kami Oogumo Orb spider Kami-kiri ("hair cutter" - 髪切) are known for sneaking up on people and cutting off their hair Barber . and a man with 'Kami genital 'crabs'

Also ; 'Interesting' how 'monotheism' created duality up in the first post A monotheistic God that creates Evil . Ha! Now that is ' theology ' * ! * Definition ; Theology ... the convoluted excuses clergy comes up with when contradictions in their attempted persuasions are pointed out . Hey ( he who changed his name to ) SHINTO (after posting some 'stuff' about Japanese religions ) are you going to change your name to ' Jew ' now ? Or are you going to continue to be Shinto while pretending to be Jewish ?

I dont know much about this tradition, but the Fisher King was the ;old head' yeah ? Without a new 'king' worthy , the tradition dies .... a young man that can meet and pass the test ? "The KIng is dead ! Long live the KIng ! " .... something like that ? from 4.00 onwards

WE need a 200 point type face ... that'll show him ! In another thread I put up some info about SOME possible causes of ill mental health and boy he went on a rant, accuse me of all this stuff I never said ... wrote more of his own BS and then ranted at ME about it ... laughed mocked and went off as if he had won some sort of victory . Thanks for YOUR posts .... I am open to any reasonable and rational opinion that can be expressed by anyone showing some balance . ZHI site tags that area a possible 'nation number 1 - Homeland . http://www.heritageinstitute.com/zoroastrianism/aryans/location.htm I linguistic study offers info that the language of the Mitanni ('Turkey' ) was based on Nuristani ( 'Afghani' ) . I think I out a post up about that somewhere here ? and the proto - Greek connections http://www.heritageinstitute.com/zoroastrianism/olympicflame/index.htm

Sorry ? Pardon ? I didnt quiet catch that .

WHAAT !!!!!! neanderthals were nazis what are ya a nazi ! ARRRRRGGGHHHHH!

So are one real weird guy ... NO it is not MY Aryan Empire ; they are the ' Aryan nations' of the Vendidad. Maybe . But if you care to look into some other research ... if you could calm down a bit and stop your unbalanced ranting and listen to ... actually, nah, I dont think you can ... its getting progressively worse ! So ..... Did you think an oracle bone that seems related to a Cyrus The Great cylinder edict in cuneiform should predate Cyrus the Great ? Strabo in Geographia 11.8.2 states: "But the best known of the nomads (Saka) are those who took away Bactriana from the Greeks, I mean the Asii, Pasiani, Tochari (Tarim basin, Khotan), and Sacarauli (see Sarikoli, the language spoken in Tashkurgan below), who originally came from the country on the other side of the Iaxartes (Jaxartes or Syr Darya) River that adjoins that of the Sacae and the Sogdiani and was occupied by the Sacae." Once again we hear mention of a nomadic people or Saka who came from a region east of the Jaxartes River, the Syr Darya. Saka-rauli appears to mean a Saka people called Rauli. http://www.heritageinstitute.com/zoroastrianism/saka/saka4.htm Of course ... its from the Vendidad ... a much later source. The reason I and ( and not others ) put 'nations' in ' ... ' is because it is a term some use but I dont really see the validity of it .... it just might be ; those people that the writers of the Vendidas knew about, traded with etc .

Yeah, your question ( and the question ) stumped me a bit . But the above is interesting . I read somewhere that a 'man' or a knight or a leader or something needs to be able to make a quick decision, a firm direction and just declare it . Even if it is wrong it is better than wallowing around stagnant and going " errmmmmm ... errrr .... ummmmm ...." So maybe the original problem is generated from the 'hero' not being complete ?

Okay .... like you did with The Learner and ... and ..., and ..... what an unproductive lot we are ! Interesting how, when a difficult question or observation arises for you , you ....