Nungali

yes ... but a human is an animal. Most of our problems are due to many not acknowledging that. Nowadays its called 'post-modern de-humanisation' - a system where all these things are set up as if we were not animals and did not have millions of years of animal evolution forming our psyche and unconscious. A system where e believe we can just drop the civil controls and people will act as they should, or accept unnatural things and ways of life. It is 'de-humanisation' to put a cake on each kids school desk and tell them not to eat it all day. Its 'de-humanisation' to expect people to live like this ; Ohhhh .... we think we can .... but look at the state we are in .... http://www.latinpost.com/articles/87659/20151018/third-time-nyc-mother-throws-baby-from-apartment-building-in-3-months.htm

Disagree all you want. Look at your flat nails, the set-up of your shoulders, your canine teeth ... your ....' woman bits' You, my dear, are a female primate ....... that is a class of animals and you have their characteristics ; you look, behave, smell, eat , breathe, live, have sex, reproduce and eventually die .... just like all the other animals. Denials of truth can lead to unnatural and aberrant behaviors and beliefs

Sometimes I am a vortex . Actually .......

I think sometimes we cant understand with each other becasue of speaking the differences ? Something wrong with mankind ? Oh yes ! Try this for a good read : The novel questions the merit of the human brain from an evolutionary perspective. Over the next million years, their descendants, the only fertile humans left on the planet, eventually evolve into a furry species resembling seals: though possibly still able to walk upright (it is not explicitly mentioned, but it is stated that they occasionally catch land animals), they have a snout with teeth adapted for catching fish, a streamlined skull and flipper-like hands with rudimentary fingers (described as "nubbins") ... Trout maintains that all the sorrows of humankind were caused by "the only true villain in my story: the oversized human brain". Fortunately, natural selection eliminates this problem, since the humans best fitted to Santa Rosalia were those who could swim best, which required a streamlined head, which in turn required a smaller brain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gal%C3%A1pagos_(novel)

I dont believe that .

Yes I have. What I have not heard of is the Portuguese Army issuing them to abducted teenage boys before they get given their first 'do this or we will will kill ' you instructions. That would not really make sense now, would it ? I hate helicopters ..... unsafe and dangerous things - " 30,000 nuts and bolts flying in close formation " as an engineer friend told me . I used to have to run out under them on the hospital helipad pushing a bed and pull patients out of them ..... yuk!

That would be sidereal time ?

But do you know rows and flows of angel's hair and ice cream castles in the air ?

Thats because you are at a much higher altitude. Cariflower ( I just love your accent ) does not grow at such high altidudes. Also I believe Switzerland has a lot of cows ?

I didnt know a gun in a helicopter could face inside to shoot people in there ?

Kurt Vonnegut too ! His imagined scenario; at the last minute God splits the heavens and bellows "What are you doing to my son ! " and mega kicks arse , then says "Actually, as he said, you lot are all my children, if anyone hassles you or anyone else again, they will have to deal with me ! " And then the next 2000 years people were very cautious about doing shitful crap to each other . But the current ' lesson ' ? Might is right, religion and belief are powerless, a good nature is for walking over ... God really stuffed up with this one ! "

Yep, Came out during a quiet time at work . Someone asked him how he could shoot people like that. He got offended and told us how he was trained ; (this is a boy mind you ) they went up in the chopper, over some village and the first guy was told to shoot some people down there, he hesitated and asked "Why, what did they do, it just looks like a little poor village , they look like civilians." So the instructor pushed him out the door and when he hit the ground he machine gunned him. Americo said he was next in line .... he was told to shoot, so he did . A really shitty position to be put in !

An interesting philosophical conundrum. My solution is - its about what you personally interact with. If someone is here and hungry, I will feed them (yes I cant go out and find every hungry person ) ... if I see someone being oppressed, I will try to help. If you fall over in front of me, I will help you up. So my line is personal interaction. I cant help every person I know or hear about in the world. But that doesnt mean I cant help at least some ... in my 'sphere' . If I somehow become 'known' to you ... if your 'dhama' becomes entwined somehow, then I will feel responsible, otherwise not.

Oh no ... not really .... but I see them in the distant thunder clouds out over the ocean at times.

Wow JUnko ! I was thinking this yesterday - total awareness stops time ... one just is ! And when time stops ... there is no time, each second is an infinity, so yes, it is like immortality. I went there once ... the problem is, when time stops so does everything else , but 'force' -(like gravity / momentum ) does not. very weird experience ... one is 'frozen' like everything else. I didnt like it much .... I prefer a moving vibrant unfolding experience. Then again it could have been 'just the effects' the 350mg of pure 'white light' lsd I took, and have no bearing on any possible 'realities' ?

Portuguese friend at work : lived in little isolated village, government wanted to do 1st census there. People didnt - local priest convinced them. Little Americo, now 15 appeared for the first time to be official resident of the country. A month later the army turned up and took him and some other boys away. A few months later he is operating a machine gun in a helicopter in the Angolan war (his 'training' consisted of being shown how to shoot people on the ground, and if they didnt, they got thrown out of the helicopter and got machine gunned after they hit the ground. Soon all supplies stopped and they were abandoned , they had to survive as a renegade band, eventually get out the war zone, cross over into 3 different countries, eventually get refugee satus, and eventually end up in Australia , where I met him. His mother was very against the census ... now he knows why ! And he hates priests !

True ... but then, one would be your ordinary silly run-o-the-mill anarchist . But here ( ) we are dealing with a Daoist anarchist ..... a little dabble here and there to divert 'the man' allows a greater freedom.

yes, tomato is exactly 80 years , less would make you a turnip .... more a type of long small aubergine .

An invitation to fantasize about a fellow Daobum ? I do believe this is a new experience for me ! (At least I dont have to ask "what are you wearing " ) You think that was bad ? Wait till you see this one ! http://www.noisefestival.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/work/haha%20made%20you%20look.JPG

Close .... rather, I think it is a ' My Little Porny Guy' .

Well, my 'front' is a big paddock, no one can see me in there ... unless the police drug bust helicopter flies over, as it does 2 or 3 times a year. They dont stop me though ( when they come close, I just slip the bong under the deck chair and put a beer on the little table next to me and wave to them . ) (I won't say what I wave at them ! )

I think all that is finished now for a variety of reasons, one being modern communication; there are all sorts of 'internet groups' around and so-called revivals like 'Khemetic ' societies , Clark's 'Egyptian revival' 'school' ( ex Om Seti ) and a few others. There is a smatterin of GD around but it doesnt seem to take off in any big way - most is revival, I think the only trad branch left in NZ closed some time back ? The A.A. has resurged a bit, but who knows what its like or how big. Every so often Freemasonry attempts an interest surge and membership drive - but that doesnt really work . The main one that has survived and grown into modern times seems to be the O.T.O. - but that is also a fraternity, mostly and it has a big focus of being a 'social experiment' , so that dynamic might be what keeps it alive partially ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordo_Templi_Orientis#Current_Grand_Lodges Then there are the secret underground ones - some of them are really good - the ones that have split off from a bonafide good tradition with good people running them (I am not talking about secret small made up groups with people with no experience in this ) I was in one of those once. Great stuff !

f'en brilliant