Nungali

Is this an advert ? " Your investment? $249 for 60 minutes " ( you think he would have rounded it off to to $250 )

Christianity ? ? ? .... ' dark forces' ? .... Harumph !

yeah but ...... I was born with it .... but it dont look like that no more

Here ... have a Mother Teresa danish

At least he doesnt make totally illogical and unverified statements about ancient African laboratory engineering

Really ? Which particular ancient beliefs say that ? I am curious to hear how ancient Africans and Sumerians describe a ' laboratory type setting ' . And 'engineered' ? I would love to read the ancient texts view on ' engineering' .

Well yes, anything would be better than being Emperor of the world ..... sounds horrible ! I would not even consider an upgrade at work, knocked back the offer to run my own department (as I was told, I could make a lot of money ... and as I knew , meant more stress and work and less time at the river ) .... never taken a grading nor claimed a belt in MA , ... anything to get away from admin and bureaucracy ... And I live near the banks of a remote mountain stream , often I will go and sit there and just .... 'be'. But I think there is a subtle message in there . I dont think one , sage or not, should spend their whole life doing that . ... just sitting there and being 'wise'. ... you know .... 'the Sage' is a show , like a movie character .... the image is held up as the way to be, but we only see part of it ... the sage has to find food, clothing shelter, wash his cloths and crap like the rest of us .... unless he ropes some undertow into being being his sub.

That assumption means that enlightenment or realisation is useless then. The idea rests on what is 'proper'. Anyone , even me, can work on building a house, I have done a few. Crappy bad buildings are everywhere. I even heard a western architect say this ; " A good architect is not someone who designs a living complex, that looks stylish, saves money, makes him a lot of money and fame but is unsuitable and needs to be pulled down after 20 years as its unhealthy and social problems have developed around it. A good architect is one that can create buildings for good living conditions that make people happy and it improves society. I saw a Sufi 'brick maker' being interviewed, not only did he make the bricks from raw natural material nearby he stacked them together to make buildings ' no written or drawn plans, he made it up as he went along, according to what he knew of the family and the people who the house was for ... he sort of 'channelled' the building and the managing of the building process. people didnt even tel him what design to build, he just knew and they were happy with what he did, he built just about all the buildings in the village. The whole village was a beautiful harmonious work of art .... so he even had 'urban design' going on his head when he built, so all of his structures fitted togther. I agree .... my example was to show something that is not 'most' nor from the 'developed world' . To follow the example of building more, most building in the developed world is crap, designed to make money for the builder and as a side, it creates unhealthy and unhappy living conditions and bad social conditions. Thats for you to decide . I dont need to do those things . I live a pretty simple lifestyle Whatever .... seems a narrowed experience to me . As I said, they can help .... have you never encountered the concept of Bodhisattva ? According to his 'calling' ( 'Tzujan' ? ) if that means you are teaching the only course open ??? ... You should brush up on language and communication skills first.

Aldebaranians eh ? I knew something was different and strange about that guy !

Sounds a bit like 'True Will' . The 'True Will' of the alligator (if it has one ) seems nasty to a lot of other animals. How would you describe Tzujan Marbles ?

What ? The 'enlightened' are too good to work and be in society ? or some other reason they should not partake ? or they could be a teacher of something . Is this part of Daoism ? I am not familiar enough to comment . I know it seems part of some 'austerity systems' .... in what I have been taught and studied , it doesnt work like that . Sufism sets a good example ' the builder that becomes 'enlightened' or achieves 'realization' then becomes and enlightened builder , and makes even better houses, making a better society - the same with all professions. Societies reach their height when the number of 'enlightened' (or at least educated ) people is maximised . But then again I got educated in the glorious post Whitlam era , I got free University Education for that very reason ( I asked when signing in at Admin why it was free , and that was basically the answer ) . Those days are gone now , in this current society an political agendas ( I even think part of the political agenda back then was 'social welfare' ! ... )

Its very psychologically challenging !

Just arrived yesterday and full of pics and illustrations ' The Genesis of the Pharaohs ' by Toby Wilkinson. Waaaa - hooo ! been waiting ages, hard to get now its mine ... MINE ! " For generations, tourists, scholars, and armchair travelers have been intrigued by the puzzle of the ancient Egyptians' origins. Was civilization brought to the Nile Valley by invaders from other lands, even refugees from Atlantis? Or did civilization develop, over a long period, within Egypt itself? Most archaeologists favor the latter theory, yet nagging doubts have always remained because many of ancient Egypt's most distinctive elements seem to have appeared quite suddenly, as if from nowhere. Now the quest for the elusive "missing link" is finally over, and, in the light of dramatic new discoveries, the genesis of the pharaohs is coming into focus. Ancient Egypt, it seems, did not begin by the banks of the Nile but in a much harsher environment. The ancestors of the pyramid-builders were not village-dwelling farmers but wandering cattle-herders, and pharaonic civilization was forged in a remote region, one of the most forbidding places on earth. These are the startling conclusions of Egyptologist Toby Wilkinson, based on his own discoveries in the heart of the Eastern Desert, between the Nile Valley and the Red Sea. Here, the pharaohs' distant ancestors left a stunning legacy that has remained hidden for 6,000 years: hundreds of intricate rock carvings that tell us about their lifestyle and their deepest beliefs. Pharaonic imagery such as the afterlife journey by boat, royal hunting, and the iconography of gods and kings all find their origins in this inhospitable terrain. Genesis of the Pharaohs traces the discovery of these ancient records, dates them, and identifies the artists who made them. As the story unfolds, we travel back in time to a remarkable early period of human creativity and discover the answer to the question of where, when, and how ancient Egypt began. " http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7...f_the_Pharaohs

Does Anpu chase Bast ? Thanks for the info Apech ( and sorry for not getting back to you Junko ) ... I been a bit busy - still in court 4 weeks now and the prosecutor just finished presenting their case - holy sheeeet ! Anyway, I finished Genesis of the Pharaohs . Mhe. It did a bad job of proving the idea that was touted on the the publicity and the dust jacket of the book ;; that the origins of Pharaonic Culture were in the Eastern desert .... if that was his intention. In doesnt appear to be throughout the book. Then at the end he states it is ... but isnt ??? A bit confused. What I took from it was that the early culture that showed motifs of later Pharaonic culture does appear in rock art towards the eastern desert. But these people ... according to the author himself, lived on that section of the NIle (the big bend) where the river curves around to become the closest part of the river to the Red Sea. here they lived on the Banks of the Nile, to the area just to the its east and up the Wadis, especially Wadi Hamnamet ( thats probably sic ) - now the main route from Nile to Red Sea. In this area ( more fertile back then ) they went to seasonally herd and graze their cattle. No settlements of them are found there, but they are near the NIle, no graves are found there, but they are found (mostly) across the NIie on the west side. he makes a big deal out of eastern desert rock art showing people pulling ancient ships by ropes and postulates it is the earliest motif of the King's after life journey ( which also seems to indicate a river origin ) , but totally misses the point that ; where the river and sea are closest , and it has been a route right back into the earliest times that the rock art may be a depiction of what actually happened in that area . And in the summing up he seems to state that the people did live by the river and went into the Wadis to graze their cattle ... BUT ... their origin was in the desert where they happened to leave their rock art . Seems a strange conclusion for a professional that spent so much time ad effort researching it and travelling there and writing the book. The publicity claims the new revealing evidence and theory .... but it just isnt in the book ... we seem back at origins from people living by the river ... who ventured into the east when it was more lush to graze their animals for part of the year and left their art on the rocks there.

Yeah ... when I was a kid, they finally fessed up ... its not true, its a story, you are old enough now to know. ,,,, well, okay then ... ya got me with that one. Then when I got a bit older I waited to hear about he rest of story being made up . But they never told me, so I asked ; So ... when are you going to tell me about how all this Jesus stuff got made up too . Oh no ! Thats the part of Christmas that is true ! .... come one guys .... ya got me once ... I am not that silly ! THen , after years I realised they actually believed that part of the Christmas story ! Even into and through their adulthood !

have you seen this ? One of my favourites'

Can I guess ? Ummmmmm ........

Ummmm ..... saying that wont stop it going up .

a wise man can play at being a fool but a fool playing at being a wise man is ....... ... how does that go again ?

the Universe in Toto ..... ..... becomes consciousness ? ..............

I used to worship the Sun with adorations x 4 daily . It made me feel great . i dont think the Sun minded either . " Hail unto Thee who art Tum in Thy setting, even unto Thee who art Tum in Thy joy, who travellest over the Heavens in Thy bark at the Down-going of the Sun. Tahuti standeth in His splendour at the prow, and Ra-Hoor abideth at the helm. Hail unto Thee from the Abodes of Day. "

..... amazing eh ? ...... really amazingly hairy arms !

Ah .... but you have not met Mr Poggle yet ;