Nungali

Oh, thats just your conditioning and reaction to the descriptive word choice combined with a lack of familiarity with the subject matter . One can easily make a misperception under those conditions. If you have an aversion to something, even one that is embedded unconsciously, and you want to change that, you can reprogram yourself. Any system can be misappropriated by society / individuals to turn out biological robots OR used to help liberate the individual from its own unwanted conditionings and reactions. I mean ... we have religion ( the first in the above paragraph) then we have 'magic' - using 'religious technology' to effect change in and around the self. Or, we could say religion uses magical technology (or even call this 'technology' ; highly emotive psychological stimulation ) . You can use a gun to hunt your food, or someone or the state could turn one against you

'we have to chose' .... yet ... 'we cannot get ' ? I dont get this at all .... then again, maybe I misunderstand it .... from my experience many of us do not chose what is ingested into their consciousness , eg, I have worked with ex-torture victims / refugees , many of them didnt have much choice about what happened to them . ... Unless you are going to go all cosmic on me and invoke 'karma' or 'the doctrine of impossible choices' .

and got him!

We might need to start a new thread for that one ! - What turned Karl into Karl ?

He's just a sort of self-advertising guy ..... actually, thats not a bad idea .... See my threads here > http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-M6TjLhL1tBs/UYFQPAszG3I/AAAAAAAABFI/519g2WwLrTY/s1600/Rainbow-dyeing-01.jpg When I read this ; ' one of our eye belong to Moon or Sun'. I thought an astrological critic would think it is rubbish. But if one looks a bit deeper into it ..... ... well, if I look a bit deeper into it .... I see our 'eyes' as a reflection of our 'dual nature' ; the Sun represents our consciousness and the Moon our unconscious and autonomous systems. Most of us think our consciousness is running our lives and decisions .... nah ! A big part of what drives us is unconscious, running on conditionings ..... totally unaware of it 98% of the time . Also we can bring this into consciousness a bit ; we could say the eyes (symbolically) are two ways of looking at things; yin and yang. I may not take astrology literally, but for me it provides a great psychic map, and has helped me to understand myself better psychologically - the same as other 'maps' have ( like the Qabbalistic one, Tarot, Exopsychology and a couple of others). But as most of us know, they are an aid , a map, not the territory itself. I bet Karl has an interesting natal astrology !

According to Exopsychology theory (and some success empirically) the 'mind' (or any of its 'programs') can be reprogrammed (away from averse programming of the state, society, family, self , circumstance, etc. .... to make a healthy functioning 'social unit' (in cases of treating 'criminals' , the 'maladjusted' or people with a disruptive problem) or for the 'psychonaut' (in this case it is a connection with a 'chosen reality' - chosen by them . '

This is closer to my ideas , I pretty much adopt the Exopsychology model here. yes, you do come with a series of 'shelves' , or 'programs' or circuits .... the first 4, each a bit like the MS word doc on my computer, but in a sense 'empty' until I write something in it and store it. Exopsychology maps 4 like this; basic HSS survival skills, I suppose we could call the 'drives' or 'syndromes, bio-survival, anal-territorial, artistic-creative, socio-sexual. The other 4 relate to neuro-somatic states, genetic information, 'energetic' systems . ( 'bio electric' or nerve system, etc. ) with the last, being a non-local type of HSS 'Anima Mundi' . .. .. . or, if one prefers 'non-local consciousness'. I think somewhere, the human bio-computer picked up an 'operational virus'.

Talking to a friend yesterday in the park in town and all of a sudden she screams "Daisy ! Don't you dare ! " and Daisy , her Staffie dog, who had started wiggling ( what they do when they want to wag a tail they dont have ) over to this kid in a stroller, comes back looking like she is in trouble. "Whats that about?" I asked her . Her : ( sheepish and a bit embarrassed) "She has taken to stealing food off children ."

" Everything is made of something else " .... ? More T-shirt material that one ! Ridiculous ........... nowadays we all know the Sun uses a segway .

I'll grab that tongue of yours with a pair of chopsticks ! Wait ... why are they called chop sticks ? Its impossible to chop with them - grabsticks , that's what they should have called them.

Ohhhh right ! Now I get you ..... those were not my dishes I'm not gonna break my own dishes !

Nungali has empathy - that's how . Condolences Junko .

Nope ! This is what we do with that stuff around here ;

It gets better ;

Wait ! You got spare old roof tiles ! let me at 'em ! Its karate time !

What .... a type of teasing dance is it

What a brute !

Not always ;

Dont you be crazy ! I was referring to this " We are born as blank slates, there isn't an intrinsic * history encoded prior to birth. " ( * belonging naturally; essential ) genetic code IS an intrinsic history encoded prior to birth No, the issue is, you made a simple one wrong statement or claim .... I refuted it , now you are changing that claim by extension .... or back peddling. I agree , but this ^ is now a qualification and an extension of the first statement that I disagreed with. I never claimed the above ... just differences in genetic coding and the fact of different 'spirit' (which I distinctly de-mystified ) . besides .... I am in a room smashing mood today

Nah ... I am sure you realise my attitude about that ! * I have stopped taking on pointless work ( like trying to get people to clearly define what they mean about the terms they use in discussion, lineal progression of ideas throughout discussion, etc. etc . ) Apparently most people dont work that way ? And obviously , its entirely my fault ! [ Couple of days back a 'fellow communer' asks "Do you mind if I cut the grass in your paddock." "YES! Well .... <thinks> ... no, I dont mind if you cut the grass . " " Oh ... here you go again with semantics .... you have been in court to much and are too literal ... why cant you just ..." "Now hang on a minute ! If I had said yes generally you would have cut the grass and removed the mulch and put it on your crops and sold them and exported the nutrients out of this paddock, to yours and off property without replacing them ..... you know I have protested about that constantly ! So is that your aim ? " wiggle wiggle bulls hit - well, actually it was. "So, ask me if you can cut and take the mulch then ! Dont try to manipulate me into it by making out you are doing me a favour and then blame me for being all semantical about things ! " - dork! Here is another classic ; " Oh Fred has stolen money off Bill ! " "How do you know that ?" " Mary told me ." " How did she know?" Bill told her and she told me me . " "Then you dont know that, all you know is that Mary told you she claimed Bill said that ." "Huh?" "It might not be true at all ... you dont know Bill is a thief, you just listened to gossip. " ..... and they wonder why I wear this a lot ;

Hmmm ... now you seem to be taking a step back from the original first and very broad claim ... which seemed to deny things like genetic coding . or did you start backtracking after I mentioned the genetic code ?

'We' ? You are still wondering . Like I said 50 pages back .... I know .... its just that people dont believe me

I got that one tattooed on my chest Okay .... I have to include 'my boy' then . ( and just yesterday I posted these :