Nungali

Yes. I am . But I want to start at a specific point - early hominids. Without being bogged down in the creation of the Universe, life itself, aliens seeding the planet , God making people, ' religious giants' , Titans ..... We could touch in passing on debunking any alien primate hybrids, if people need to do that (Sitchin again ) This question throws up stuff like that ..... the catharsis is nearly complete . Then we can get into some anthropology and psychology ..... if people can bear that

Interesting ! Yes, some of the earliest finds of evidence of human occupation here in the interior desert were such now dried out lakes - Mungo Man from 'Lake' Mungo. Water brings life.

I concur !

Ewwwwww

Thing is ... aliens will do that to ya as well ! ..... apparently it can be the start of a long relationship

I have faith he ate that burrito

The gloves Brian ... the gloves ... baring that there is also microscopic bone and hair analysis . But we would have to get a bone sample first

No .... right folks , lets interview his family and go the rubbish bins and examine his kitchen and visit the 'Burrito to go' place near his house and interview some witnesses . and next ... we get out the colonoscope ( Egyptologists tend to look for other evidence than just someone's 'say-so' )

OBJECTION ! You are 'leading' the witness and being presumptuous You see ..... in court, you cant get away with obvious bull shit .

no no no .... unicorns are all purdy like Thats an ancient Siberian Rhinoplastisaurus

Unicorns have a very sharp spiral horn ..... the Egyptians used them to bore tiny holes in granite .

Think like what then ? Dogs ? Junko .... you are human ..... you are a mammalian primate , you realise that dont you ? If you want to not be like something you are ..... you are in for an upset at some stage.

It never stopped me as skepticism should be applied to both views. I not only notice the strange side of reality .... my friends tell me I attract it ! Its fun, and makes life interesting . 'When' ? Oh ... how times have changed Back in the 'old days' if you saw an unshaven, wildly gesturing, swearing and abusing someone who isnt there maniac walking out into the traffic without paying attention.... the guys in white coats would come and drag him away ... for his own good ! Nowadays its just some hipster stockbroker on his bluetooth.

Quotes please .... and not some 'modern' (comparatively) take written well after the Vedas about 'vimanas' ... by 'you know who' .... The original description is of an ornate temple roof ! source please ! ( I always have sauce ) Ditto , source please ... and dont quote Sitchen ... he cant even read cuneiform ! Like ? ? ? No offense MIchael, but you seem to have resorted to pulling 'references' out of your ....... lets say ' New Age Akashic Record ' . .... anyone can make such similar unreferenced claims , and just affirm or deny all that. No. But we can be rational and follow the evidence and try to get over our wish / belief prejudices . and I dont get the 'mythological part' ..... for me , real mythology has valuable psychological lessons. The only lesson I get from this Atlantis theory is one of post Victorian Empire building racial superiority ( not from you, but that seems to be at the heart of it for those that developed it ).

A ridiculous concept .... before he even drank the wine . But after 7 wines ...... I swear ! I saw that UFO too !

Understood ! But no signs of them being here or helping building in Egypt .

Is it like 'mythological history' ? ( A term I use to describe things like 'history lectures' and 'moral stories' in 'Orders' eg. The building of Solomon's Temple , Hiram Abiff, etc. In Freemasonry. ) Not following you with that one ? I didnt feel 'betrayed' ... but my opinions certainly changed , eg, when finding out Sitchen couldnt even read cuneiform .... and his rad ideas are supposedly based on his own interpretations of cuneiform I am surprised you think I 'threw it all away' as I know you have read some of my other writings. Even an 'occult view of history' should be able to show some reputable evidence . Perhaps we have an entirely different understanding of 'occult' ? Michael ... Kircher lived in the 1600 s ! ( and I would love to know what his understanding of what " the Atlantis theory " is ? ) . Steiner .... just like other famous mystics, was not infallible or perfect . People back then believed in all sorts of crazy stuff, as they still do today. I think its more likely Steiner adopted 'the Atlantis Theory' as he came during/after Ignatius Donnelly (unlike Kircher) , who 'invented' the Atlantis theory of civilisations - the theory is actually based on a superior 'Empire Mentality' . Some were still basing 'occult history' on Bible stories. I recommend incorporating a modern view; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantis This was the old view about Egyptian civilisation, that it came in from the east to the Upper Nile (near the big bend ) from 'boat people' landing on the west coast of the Red Sea. They bought 'civilisation' with them. ( I am reading a book on this at the moment 'Genesis of the Pharaohs' , where it looks at this old 'evidence' in a new light ) . The basic point is, those guys were old Victorian (at least ) and sooooo much research and findings have been made since. One must 'keep up to speed' . Its not VonDanniken's own partial criticisms of his own work I am looking at ... my view and criticisms of him a much much wider than that ! But , strangely enough, orthodox Egyptology does not agree with him. They state they have a pretty good idea how they did most of it. Again, if you can specifically put up an example of what you mean , then perhaps we can examine it ? One classic example is that it is often said how perfect and exact all the blocks fit ... with no gaps . Yet there is clear evidence in situ and in photographs this is not the case. Some areas of construction in the G . P, are a messy mish mash.

It appears so. I am interested in what the Egyptians did . not wild unbacked up and in some cases , false data and faked photoshopped pictures . Its actually quite likely that they did not . What makes you think my involvement with occultism has anything to do with my research into ancient Egyptian building methods? What they depicted and represented with those methods could be considered occultism, I also study that. But from an early age, in my magical training I learnt about the idea of 'separation of planes' .... one method of studying the 'occult' and not being led away by delusion and fantasy ... probably the main 'danger' . I am confused here ... are you suggesting because I use Tarot (non predictively ) and am interested in astrology as a map of the psyche, I should not study Egytptian building techniques academically ? ? ? Ummmm ... I just said I am interested ... highly interested in the spiritual component of what they depicted in stone, again, I dont see what this has to do with a rational approach of how they built stuff ? Ummm .... I never had 'faith' in that stuff , I was fascinated and interested in it ... the more I looked into it, the more it fell apart is all. Adding faith to the mix just makes it seem more religious and connected to a want and desire for the facts to match one's hopes and beliefs. No .... Karl appears to not be into astrology and I am ... big difference between us I would say. Some of my ideas about astro-psychology would probably enrage him Timewise, according their claims, they were fakes. But, to me, that does not mean they do not hold wisdom. I could fake a copy of the bible and claim it was ancient, and get exposed as a fake ... my forgery would still hold wisdom ... separation of the planes again. The reason they threw them out and adopted new systems is a bit more complex and relied on varied factors. I have no trouble changing gear ... I have good clutch. I will dispel incorrect info when I see it ..... I mean, at one stage , you seemed to be saying Handcock's stuff was valid in showing some proof that aliens were involved in Egyptian building .... .... even he doesnt say that . And when I pick up on other mistakes and clarify previous points made in argument as wrong ..... I am being picky ? ? ?

going to supermarket ... first time there alone after a relationship split up; Ooooo that looks good what a pity 'we ' dont like it and 'cant ' afford to waste money on it ..... Wait ! ..... 'we' ? ? ? ..... actually, I will have 4 of those .... and 2 of these and 8 of them .... now .... where do they keep the beer ?

But when you do release them .... the freedom is wonderful ! Hmmmm ... why did that statement just remind me of 'divorce'

Yes ... and I will receive all your presents on any day as well .

Lewis Caroll was a coke freak . not into psychedelics ! Psychedelics didnt really hit modern Euro culture until Crowley came back from Mexico with mushroom juice and began synthesising it himself (until Park Davis copied his effort, after Crowley visited their factory as a fellow 'chemist' , he then adopted their version as a superior product ) and gave some to Aldous Huxley to try out. and then there was the great 'experimental accident' some years later ;

Some say there isnt enough barracks for the employees . I guess they slept in ....